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DrDork posted:Is it also chained to your jeans? I bet it is. You mean my jorts? You betcha
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:Y'all probably remember that SÁBADO GIGANTE video card meme BITCHIN' FAST 3D 2000  
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The $500 price difference between the two Vega models seems excessive if there's not actually a performance difference. I wonder if the air-cooled version is TDP-throttled like Fury Nano. This doesn't show up in the clock rates since it can clock just as high as Fury X, it just won't be able to sustain it due to the TDP throttle. If not, buy a G10 bracket and a H75, boom, saved you $600.
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Paul MaudDib posted:The $500 price difference between the two Vega models seems excessive if there's not actually a performance difference. I mean, it's a workstation card so it's overpriced in every respect. No doubt they're charging a huge premium for the 'workstation grade' water cooling. It doesn't matter that much though, the consumer Vega cards should perform better and for much less anyway. I wouldn't worry about what AMD think they can get away with charging businesses.
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how safe is it to run a Geforce 1080 at 70C (44% GPU fan) for extended periods of time (days-weeks)? i'm getting a second box with a 1080 Ti to be my main PC and am thinking of moving my existing PC into a 29C ambient temp store room as a headless hobby tensorflow machine. wondering how safe it is to leave it run full throttle.
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Jun 18, 2017 12:38
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According to Nvidia, max temp for a 1080 is 94°C. 70° shouldn't really be a problem.
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Drakhoran posted:According to Nvidia, max temp for a 1080 is 94°C. 70° shouldn't really be a problem. Yup, ran my HD 4850 for years at 80C load, with the stock blower, and then friend used it without issue. Didn't affect the stability or lifetime. Don't believe all these idiots who freak out about anything over 50C load, They just want some sort of justification for dropping over a hundred dollars on a GPU water block they can't easily reuse. All while STOCK AND OEM-ADDED cooling is better than it's ever been. defaultluser fucked around with this message at 13:59 on Jun 18, 2017 |
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Jun 18, 2017 13:53
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defaultluser posted:All while STOCK
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defaultluser posted:Don't believe all these idiots who freak out about anything over 50C load, They just want some sort of justification for dropping over a hundred dollars on a GPU water block they can't easily reuse. Other than the neato factor of having a GPU waterblock tied into a larger CWL, I've never understood them: they're stupid expensive (easily $100 for the block), and as you say, since they're custom fit, they can't be re-used on another type of card. Meanwhile, a AIO + G10 costs about the same as a single block, you can use it on basically anything, and it provides very similar levels of cooling.
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DrDork posted:Other than the neato factor of having a GPU waterblock tied into a larger CWL, I've never understood them: they're stupid expensive (easily $100 for the block), and as you say, since they're custom fit, they can't be re-used on another type of card. The good reason is if you are using two cards and you want them to fit close together, then a custom loop makes a lot of sense if you don't mind the cost. With 4k@144Hz becoming a thing or just 4k that never dips below 60FPS@Ultra SLIed 1080Ti's makes sense, also if you are a AMD loyalist the best you can get right now is a couple 580s to push a higher end Freesync monitor. I will agree that for anything single card a bracket and AIO or just a good open style air cooler makes more sense.
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DrDork posted:Other than the neato factor of having a GPU waterblock tied into a larger CWL, I've never understood them: they're stupid expensive (easily $100 for the block), and as you say, since they're custom fit, they can't be re-used on another type of card. That's pretty much why I got mine. That said, the Pascal reference boards seem to be all compatible with each other. EKWB's blocks for the 1080 and 1070 are identical for instance, other than the number cut into them.
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PerrineClostermann posted:That said, the Pascal reference boards seem to be all compatible with each other. EKWB's blocks for the 1080 and 1070 are identical for instance, other than the number cut into them. EK makes a full-cover block that works with everything from the 1060FE up to the Titan Xp now: https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-fc-geforce-gtx-fe-nickel Still, it probably won't fit on Volta reference cards and a G10+AIO almost certainly will.
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repiv posted:EK makes a full-cover block that works with everything from the 1060FE up to the Titan Xp now: https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-fc-geforce-gtx-fe-nickel Don't most AIO or generic solutions fail to cool the VRMs and other devices? iirc, they generally only cool the GPU die. I haven't looked much into them myself, having bought the full-cover block and called it good.
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PerrineClostermann posted:Don't most AIO or generic solutions fail to cool the VRMs and other devices? iirc, they generally only cool the GPU die. I haven't looked much into them myself, having bought the full-cover block and called it good. The AIO itself only cools the GPU die, but the G10/G12 kits come with a 92mm fan to cool the VRM section:  It's no full-cover waterblock but it generally works well enough.
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:The good reason is if you are using two cards and you want them to fit close together, then a custom loop makes a lot of sense if you don't mind the cost. With 4k@144Hz becoming a thing or just 4k that never dips below 60FPS@Ultra SLIed 1080Ti's makes sense, also if you are a AMD loyalist the best you can get right now is a couple 580s to push a higher end Freesync monitor. I could see this if you had a fairly exotic setup where--for whatever reason--you needed your SLI cards to be in adjacent slots. However, most SLI motherboards these days have at least 2 slots between x16 slots explicitly to allow 3-slot-wide cards to fit in SLI, meaning you would have no problem with using AIO+G10's. Admittedly, you might be trying to shove that into a smaller case that wouldn't have mounting options for two AIO radiators, but I don't know what sort of case would run into that issue that wouldn't also have a problem providing sufficient radiator space for a CLC capable of dealing with SLI 1080Ti's to begin with. Basically, I agree that there's edge-case scenarios where waterblocks make sense, but they're so edge that it seems that they should basically never happen outside pure vanity--which I'll admit is a totally legit reason to do something if you've got the cash for it.
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DrDork posted:I could see this if you had a fairly exotic setup where--for whatever reason--you needed your SLI cards to be in adjacent slots. However, most SLI motherboards these days have at least 2 slots between x16 slots explicitly to allow 3-slot-wide cards to fit in SLI, meaning you would have no problem with using AIO+G10's. Admittedly, you might be trying to shove that into a smaller case that wouldn't have mounting options for two AIO radiators, but I don't know what sort of case would run into that issue that wouldn't also have a problem providing sufficient radiator space for a CLC capable of dealing with SLI 1080Ti's to begin with. Don't AIO brackets usually work at 2-slot spacing (skip one slot) rather than 3? The problem with triple-slot spacing (skip 2 slots) is that it still sucks for triple-slot coolers, since all of those are open-cooler styles that depend on having an airspace in front to carry the heat away. Triple slot spacing is good for a dual-slot cooler, max.
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Paul MaudDib posted:Don't AIO brackets usually work at 2-slot spacing (skip one slot) rather than 3? Yeah. Hence my note that virtually all current motherboards have x16 spacing generous enough to not be an issue for AIO's. The exception being some of the extremely niche 4x 16 boards that sometimes have x16 slots adjacent, so they only support 1-slot-wide cards, for which a CLC would work where an AIO would not. But even then I think virtually all of them are at least 2-slot sized, since single-slot + 4x SLI is...well an extremely uncommon setup, I suppose. Agreed that even with 3 slots, open-air-coolers tend to struggle.
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Jun 19, 2017 00:12
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Please convince I don't need to get rid of this 1080 and get a 1080 ti. I feel this journey down the GPU rabbit hole will never end.
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Jun 19, 2017 00:56
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how many hours per week do you actually game and how much better is the 1080ti at your resolution? That should be all you need to consider if its a worthwhile upgrade
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I'll be using a 1440/144 soon but I honestly don't mind turning some settings down. I do t game that much with a six month old around. I just like tinkering with PCs, one of my few hobbies and I enjoy it with my limited free time. That upgrade/building itch is hard to fight sometimes.
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B-Mac posted:I'll be using a 1440/144 soon but I honestly don't mind turning some settings down. I do t game that much with a six month old around. I just like tinkering with PCs, one of my few hobbies and I enjoy it with my limited free time. That upgrade/building itch is hard to fight sometimes. I'm perfectly happy with my 1080 at 1440/144 and I run everything high/ultra. Just make sure to get a GSync monitor.
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The time to do the 1080 to 1080ti upgrade was before the ti's release which tanked the 1080's resale value. As a 1080 owner, I know that I'm waiting until the next ti (1180?) and getting on the ti cycle. Those cards hold their value longer.
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they hold value longer but arguably worse. Ti's see greater price drop in dollar amount, but all the cards from x70 up see a similar percentage of price drop I feel that as long as you stick to one cycle you get fairly good value. When you hop around constantly you will inevitably buy right before a price drop. 980Ti's were going for $400 when the 1080 launched. 970's were 200 for a time when the 980 ti was launched. Each time you can expect close to a 30% drop. These are ebay prices, the retail prices barely move except in response to something AMD did and you cant really expect them to regularly be competitive these days Fauxtool fucked around with this message at 03:04 on Jun 19, 2017 |
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Shrimp or Shrimps posted:The time to do the 1080 to 1080ti upgrade was before the ti's release which tanked the 1080's resale value. I'm doing the same. I have a 980Ti right now and it works perfectly for 2k @ 60Hz but when an 1180Ti comes out I'm hoping it'll actually do 4k @ 120 Hz+ and upgrade both my graphics card and monitor at that time.
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brace yourselves, the buttcoin miners are moving on to the GTX1060/GTX1070. https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6i1r5c/ethereum_hashrate_drop_for_radeon_rx400rx500_gpus/ if this discussion is correct then polaris will hit some sort of bandwidth bottleneck in the near future which will make mining 30% less effective; pascal is unaffected by this. Fortunately the 1070 isn't great value for gaming after the 1080 price cuts and the 1080 is somehow worse at mining so the  top end of the GPU range should be safe. People interested in a 1060 will be able to pick up a used RX480/580 for peanuts. eames fucked around with this message at 08:59 on Jun 19, 2017 |
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I definitely thought about buying a bulk lot of 1070s like 2 weeks ago in anticipation of that but decided to continue trying to snipe/flip the RX cards instead. Whatever, I'm up like a grand on that either way.
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Do miners tend to use blower fans for the mining rig GPUs?
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ufarn posted:Do miners tend to use blower fans for the mining rig GPUs? No, they have them on open air ghetto rigs so they actually want the good aftermarket coolers wherever it's possible without spending too much extra.
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That kind of explains why the two 1070s I saw show up disappeared basically over night.
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ufarn posted:Do miners tend to use blower fans for the mining rig GPUs? They use whatever card they can find.
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So should I hold onto this MSI Gaming 290x for a few days more before selling so I can contribute more to my 1080 fund? Sounds like it might be more in demand now that 4 and 5 series cards are going to be out of favor? I was originally going to go 1070 but it looks like stock is almost out everywhere and prices will go up thanks to buttcoin
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No sell now, complexity increase is going to make that card even more worthless than it was two months ago. E: wait, it's all GCN cards getting hit, not just Polaris, right?
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Don't sell them on ebay though.
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Just purchased an RX580 for $220 lol, Microcenter now has a one card per person per month policy in place.
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NewFatMike posted:No sell now, complexity increase is going to make that card even more worthless than it was two months ago. article posted:It seems that other more powerful GPUs such as R9 290(x)/390(x) as well as Nvidia Pascal GPUs with more video memory (6GB/8GB+) will not be affected or the drop in performance 
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NewFatMike posted:No sell now, complexity increase is going to make that card even more worthless than it was two months ago. Rumormill says that actually it's only Polaris that's going to nosedive in the immediate future and 290s will pull through.
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Don Lapre posted:Don't sell them on ebay though. Aside from their stupid fees, any other reason not to?
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Godinster posted:Aside from their stupid fees, any other reason not to? someone posted it in here a page or so ago but the short version is eBay can and will screw you when a buyer decides "you know what it's been almost 6 months and oh look it never actually worked. Ebay give me my money back" and people buying cards to be miners are more likely to screw you over if they think they can.
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Godinster posted:Aside from their stupid fees, any other reason not to? Ebay is overwhelmed with fraud, and buyers have 180 days to dispute purchases and many of the fraudsters do. Also, paypal's purpose in this world is to gently caress over sellers now. They'll side with buyers no matter what. You'll also run into geniuses like this in the cryptocurrency community who think they're the first person in the world to invent mail fraud: https://webcache.googleusercontent....n&ct=clnk&gl=us quote:Thinking about making an Amazon order for a new computer. The computer would be around $1300. Twerk from Home fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Jun 19, 2017 |
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