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Sagebrush posted:Making the admission be an extraordinarily selfless act turns that all back to zero; apparently all of the poo poo he's put up with so far hasn't been enough to send his moral compass south. Now we have to spend another season figuring out how the man who chose to ruin his own reputation rather than see an old woman lonely turns into a Criminal Lawyer who encourages his own clients to get serious about their meth empire. I see it as being the other way around. Now that he's deliberately ruined his reputation, and has to take a year off from the law anyway, when he starts up again it makes perfect sense to be a CRIMINAL lawyer, so that instead of being tempted to take advantage of little old ladies (and then feel bad about it after the fact), he'll be able to justify it to himself as only being in a position to take advantage of criminals. That said, season 1 was definitely written as though it was the only season they were going to get and they've walked it back quite a ways from where they were at the end of season 1. But since then it's seemed to all fit together, if agonizingly slowly at times.
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I never get people thinking that Jimmy has to become a heartless bastard to be Saul, he just has to be utterly amoral.
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Jun 20, 2017 06:40
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:I still wanna know what made Kim okay with the Irene situation. Hoping that gets talked about in an interview. Didn't he just tell Kim that he met up with her and recommended she settle and she did?
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:I never get people thinking that Jimmy has to become a heartless bastard to be Saul, he just has to be utterly amoral. Realizing that you ruined an old lady's happiness and then destroying your own reputation and remnants of a career in order to fix it is a pretty loving moral action.
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:I never get people thinking that Jimmy has to become a heartless bastard to be Saul, he just has to be utterly amoral. There are shades of grey which determine how good or bad a person you are, and when you have a person's whole life unfold on screen, it's not easy to decide if or when someone has crossed the threshold of good person/bad person. It's always grey if you ask me
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GobiasIndustries posted:Didn't he just tell Kim that he met up with her and recommended she settle and she did? They were talking about how her friends still hated her with Jimmy not knowing how to fix it, which would imply that he told her about what he did, unless Jimmy told Kim he trying to fix an old lady's social life for reasons other than guilt, which lol she would never believe that. Also I realized on the rewatch that Irene KNOWS what Jimmy pulled with Erin was an act since Erin opened with "I got her to tell me about what you did," when that obviously didn't happen, which I guess explains that when she looks at him and shakes her head there isn't really a look of terrible betrayal there, more just "huh, you're kinda poo poo, aren't you?" Sagebrush posted:Realizing that you ruined an old lady's happiness and then destroying your own reputation and remnants of a career in order to fix it is a pretty loving moral action.
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Zebulon posted:Oh poo poo they confirmed a year. But as a former resident of Albuquerque, I happen to know that the Triangle Grocery that Chuck visited didn't open until 2004. Immersion ruined! 
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:They were talking about how her friends still hated her with Jimmy not knowing how to fix it, which would imply that he told her about what he did, unless Jimmy told Kim he trying to fix an old lady's social life for reasons other than guilt, which lol she would never believe that. Yeah but he could have just told her "hey I convinced this woman to settle" which is kinda shady since his license was suspended but  Then after he found out her life was ruined he did a good and right thing and put himself on the sword to get that lady's life back which doesn't seem bad at all
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ComradeCosmobot posted:But as a former resident of Albuquerque, I happen to know that the Triangle Grocery that Chuck visited didn't open until 2004. Immersion ruined! Now I have EHS
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GobiasIndustries posted:Yeah but he could have just told her "hey I convinced this woman to settle" which is kinda shady since his license was suspended but
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Spellman posted:Now I have EHS Reading the Alibi will do that to you
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In his mind he threw away his entire elder law business to make it right. Kim might not know every gory detail but she's gotta know a lot of it.
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Sagebrush posted:Realizing that you ruined an old lady's happiness and then destroying your own reputation and remnants of a career in order to fix it is a pretty loving moral action. That's why Saul's a great character. He went to his lowest low, then really tried to do right in the end. I'm pretty sure Chuck really has to be dead this time. I kept waiting for the lantern to come back and burn the place down, but I never expected a suicide attempt. Probably a successful one.
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:I guess I just assumed from their conversation that Jimmy had told Kim he engineered Irene's situation, but thinking about it I don't think it's absolutely necessary, except the whole point of this episode for Jimmy seemed to be him recommitting to his relationship with Kim and being a loving partner which would mean he'd be honest. I think Irene not getting back in the gang was extremely unintended and I prob. wouldn't have told Kim about the whole scheme either. ...that might say a lot about the kind of person I am.
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Regy Rusty posted:I can't believe how positive a note Jimmy and Kim ended the season on. She even knew all about Irene and still no cracks. What the hell is going to tear them apart at this point?? Nothing. Series ends on a montage of Kim just barely missing or being slightly out of frame for key events of Breaking Bad. She's got a law practice in the mall with the Cinnabon.
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Jun 20, 2017 07:23
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It could end with Jimmy going gently caress it and burning down his house trying to follow the footsteps of his brother.
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I think this was a pitch perfect season ending. The episode opened with Jimmy recognizing that his own scummy actions pushed Kim away, forced her into overwork, and eventually got her into the accident. He attempts to apologize and make amends and does to a degree, but we know that immediately after the episode he will receive a harsh reminder that undercuts any effort at change. In the end Jimmy will be left with Chuck's words and the knowledge that he played a big part in driving his brother to suicide. Despite the last scene with Jimmy and Kim ending with hope, the ending is devastating for both McGills.
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Tenzarin posted:3 seasons later Howard is somehow not an evil character. Quite the opposite of evil, Howard is actually Jesus  
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Jun 20, 2017 07:31
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gently caress Chuck but that was a really sad end for him.
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I can't believe Howard personally murdered Chuck.
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GobiasIndustries posted:I can't believe Howard personally murdered Chuck. He was a jerk from day one. I'm shocked it took this long tbh.
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Jun 20, 2017 07:47
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Was I the only idiot who missed Jimmy trashing the old people being intentional the first way through
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Jun 20, 2017 07:48
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What the gently caress did Mike do this season? We started with him hurtling through the desert and ended with him getting a paycheck in the penultimate ep. Mike went from: Investigating Gus to: Working for Gus to: being paid by Gus but not technically working.
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Sagebrush posted:Realizing that you ruined an old lady's happiness and then destroying your own reputation and remnants of a career in order to fix it is a pretty loving moral action. He didn't know the mic was on lol
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Argus Zant posted:Burning this mother down, more like. nice
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Golden Bee posted:What the gently caress did Mike do this season? We started with him hurtling through the desert and ended with him getting a paycheck in the penultimate ep. hosed up Hector's distribution system and made an alliance with Gus.
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Jimmy's ruse came crashing down because of mic's voice.
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drunken officeparty posted:I don' think suicide fits Chuck at all, and if it were, shoving the entire breakdown into the last half of the last episode was too much. He is doing fine and then suddenly plummets to killing himself in like 1 scene. It was kind of a hell of a scene.
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That DICK! posted:Was I the only idiot who missed Jimmy trashing the old people being intentional the first way through He even explains to Erin that she did a good part saying her lines.
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UZR IS BULLSHIT posted:Eh, I've defended this show's slow pace in the past but I really think they botched the second half of this season. Having Jimmy's arc for the season end with him doing the right thing with the olds was sort of a wet fart for where they're at with his character. They need to step on the gas if they're back for season 4. Which I am still on board for, but less enthusiastically so than I have been up til now. I disagree- him getting good at being the hated scumbag lawyer is central to his character. Lying and exploiting your way to gains is different from being in the spotlight and reveling in it.
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Golden Bee posted:He even explains to Erin that she did a good part saying her lines. I was distracted during that part so that explains it
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That DICK! posted:Was I the only idiot who missed Jimmy trashing the old people being intentional the first way through assuming you picked it up a second time through, you're ahead of most TVIV posters.
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Jimmy and Kim shared an on screen kiss so hopefully that ends the stupid questions about them being buddies
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Hell, it was pretty apparent even before he decided to do it that the only way to heal the rift between Irene and the others was to unite them against himself. Do people really need these things spoon-fed to them?
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Jun 20, 2017 08:19
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He says "I know how to fix the Irene situation, but I reeeeeeeeeally don't want to do it."
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Javid posted:Hell, it was pretty apparent even before he decided to do it that the only way to heal the rift between Irene and the others was to unite them against himself. Do people really need these things spoon-fed to them? Yes. But also thank goodness we've seemed to have gotten that "question" out of the way already.
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