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CFox posted:Right now the top 3 sold 1070 listings on ebay in the US are 510, 530, 700. They're generally selling for around $500 except for clueless people that list them for less. This is especially funny because $400 1070s have been coming in and out of stock from various retailers, I bought a FE from the Nvidia store that arrived yesterday.
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repiv posted:MSI marketing director: "I’ve seen the specs of Vega RX. It needs a drat lot of power." Build an x299 system, use Vega. Enjoy warm winters
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Jun 22, 2017 16:03
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Jun 22, 2017 16:05
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repiv posted:MSI marketing director: "I’ve seen the specs of Vega RX. It needs a drat lot of power." I don't doubt that Vega will require buttloads of power, however we're just supposed to accept that the anonymous forum post is from who it claims to be?
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Jun 22, 2017 16:25
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Hi, I work for MSI and I can confirm that the Vega cards will require a 24-pin connector and minimum 1200W dedicated power supply just for itself and submerged in a small aquarium filled with mineral oil.
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Jun 22, 2017 17:40
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Wirth1000 posted:Hi, I work for MSI and I can confirm that the Vega cards will require a 24-pin connector and minimum 1200W dedicated power supply just for itself and submerged in a small aquarium filled with mineral oil. Will I be able to use this as a deep fryer? I'd rather not get out of my chair to cook dinner.
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Jun 22, 2017 17:46
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Hi, the guy from MSI again, yes, you can, Anarchist Mae! We're even introducing a KFC-edition of Vega. Overclock your GPU at the same time as overclocking your arteries!
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Wirth1000 posted:Hi, the guy from MSI again, yes, you can, Anarchist Mae! We're even introducing a KFC-edition of Vega. Overclock your GPU at the same time as overclocking your arteries! I feel this belongs in the Buttcoin thread, as a way for them to further reduce their power bill by reclaiming some of that heat energy for food prep! AMD will always win on the nuggets-cooked-per-inch metric.
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DrDork posted:I feel this belongs in the Buttcoin thread, as a way for them to further reduce their power bill by reclaiming some of that heat energy for food prep! Maybe for GPUs
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Jun 22, 2017 18:13
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Anarchist Mae posted:I don't doubt that Vega will require buttloads of power, however we're just supposed to accept that the anonymous forum post is from who it claims to be? The Videocardz guy has a good track record of vetting rumours and culling fake ones, so I'm willing to take his word for it. He doesn't just post every unsubstantiated rumour on the entire internet like WCCF does.
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I don't think we really need to rely on rumors, the Vega Frontier Edition is 300W on air and 375W for the liquid. I imagine thats what the gaming cards will be at too (for the 16gig version anyway), since its the same silicon.
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Jun 22, 2017 18:26
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Jesus christ
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Jun 22, 2017 19:04
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Man, totally unrelated to the current conversation, but it is a massive loving pain in the rear end to try and find MXM form factors of various GPUs. There's basically just ebay and pray as far as I can see, outside of one Taiwanese company specializing in making custom MXM modules with nvidia chips which work at extremely wide temperature ranges.
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Jun 22, 2017 19:12
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Gwaihir posted:Man, totally unrelated to the current conversation, but it is a massive loving pain in the rear end to try and find MXM form factors of various GPUs. There's basically just ebay and pray as far as I can see, outside of one Taiwanese company specializing in making custom MXM modules with nvidia chips which work at extremely wide temperature ranges. OEMs hardly even use MXM anymore, so the market is small, and an even smaller number of people are interested in upgrading their MXM GPU, so it probably makes very little sense to bother with direct sales to consumers rather than OEMs.
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Gwaihir posted:Man, totally unrelated to the current conversation, but it is a massive loving pain in the rear end to try and find MXM form factors of various GPUs. There's basically just ebay and pray as far as I can see, outside of one Taiwanese company specializing in making custom MXM modules with nvidia chips which work at extremely wide temperature ranges. Yeah I don't think they're retail available literally anywhere so you just have to hope enough people shuck em outta dead ~gaming laptops~ and throw em on ebay.
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MXM was never really designed for user upgrading GPUs, but rather just making it easier for OEMs to support multiple GPUs in one product line. And it's not a fully drop-in-replacement standard either IIRC - the MB actually has to specifically be configured to work with a particular MXM GPU.
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Jun 22, 2017 19:24
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You would think that MXM would be making a comeback in this era of PCIe mezzanine cards though. Is there something that would keep you from putting 4-8 MXM modules in a rackmount and launching your own knockoff of NVIDIA's rackmount servers?
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Paul MaudDib posted:You would think that MXM would be making a comeback in this era of PCIe mezzanine cards though. Is there something that would keep you from putting 4-8 MXM modules in a rackmount and launching your own knockoff of NVIDIA's rackmount servers? Knockoff in what sense? Using MXM to lay the GPUs flat against the motherboard might make cooling easier, but it won't give you the bandwidth of NVs 800-pin connectors.
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Jun 22, 2017 19:42
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repiv posted:Knockoff in what sense? Using MXM to lay the GPUs flat against the motherboard might make cooling easier, but it won't give you the bandwidth of NVs 800-pin connectors. Knockoff in terms of "Not being almost 200k," probably.
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I have no doubt that some deranged engineer over at Supermicro has a half-finished layout for a server board that abuses the MXM form factor and stands them upright, using heatpipes to funnel thermals off to a much larger fin array than you could squeeze in between densely-packed MXM boards.
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Jun 22, 2017 19:59
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If you want to beat NVIDIA at ML performance, don't use GPUs.
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Jun 22, 2017 20:02
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There are PCI-Ex to MXM risers around. But if you really wanna get wild n' krazy kids with it, its all about this thing (that i dont know if ever really existed in retail form cause lol)
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Jun 22, 2017 20:06
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Wow that thing owns.
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Jun 22, 2017 20:10
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Yeah, I'm giving up. I just looked up how much M2000M MXM cards are going for, and I might as well hock it for a profit at this point. Now I just have to wait.... for.... EPYC/Threadripper..... 
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Jun 22, 2017 20:17
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I expect a lot of people won't be stopped by the power requirements if it performs. If not...
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Jun 22, 2017 20:22
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Dead heat with a 1080ti for 20% more power and I could bite. But the miners won't probably won't let me.
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Cygni posted:There are PCI-Ex to MXM risers around. But if you really wanna get wild n' krazy kids with it, its all about this thing (that i dont know if ever really existed in retail form cause lol) Hah, honestly it wouldn't be that hard to commission a Chinese company to start making those... then if you could drop $2000 for dual GTX 1080 MXMs from Eurocom...
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Zero VGS posted:Hah, honestly it wouldn't be that hard to commission a Chinese company to start making those... then if you could drop $2000 for dual GTX 1080 MXMs from Eurocom... Wouldn't cooling those things be a bitch? Since you have less area to spread your heat sink over?
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VulgarandStupid posted:Wouldn't cooling those things be a bitch? Since you have less area to spread your heat sink over? Yeah but with a waterblock it could be a single-slot dual GPU, ITX length card.
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I love microcenter. Just picked up a GTX 1080 EVGA Classified for $480 and I get the $30 MIR and Destiny 2.
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HamHawkes posted:I love microcenter. Just picked up a GTX 1080 EVGA Classified for $480 and I get the $30 MIR and Destiny 2. The codes are insta-selling on eBay for $45 each or you could do SA-Mart if you don't wanna play it... I'm not holding out hope that it'd be a huge improvement over the first one.
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Jun 23, 2017 00:50
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Well that's stupid because you can only redeem the code with a 1080 in your system.
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Zero VGS posted:The codes are insta-selling on eBay for $45 each or you could do SA-Mart if you don't wanna play it... I'm not holding out hope that it'd be a huge improvement over the first one. Don't do this, you're at huge risk for chargeback because Paypal doesn't protect sellers of electronic goods.
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Craptacular! posted:Well that's stupid because you can only redeem the code with a 1080 in your system. There are plenty of people with 1080s, though.
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Paul MaudDib posted:Don't do this, you're at huge risk for chargeback because Paypal doesn't protect sellers of electronic goods. I've never had a problem and I've sold maybe a hundred game codes over 10 years... like yeah, they could charge you back, but people are generally decent when you still them discount video games. Plus when it's that cheap, the credit card companies will almost always credit back the money without actually taking it from the seller.
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Zero VGS posted:The codes are insta-selling on eBay for $45 each or you could do SA-Mart if you don't wanna play it... I'm not holding out hope that it'd be a huge improvement over the first one. I also got a $30 MIR. So I'll take that and destiny
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What the gently caress, buttcoiners. Pricing for GPU's in Australia (from major computer retailers, PCCG and umart) have gone up significantly. For instance the cheapest 3GB 1060 about a month ago was around $280-300 and it is now $399. What the gently caress man? Also, the cheapest 1070 is $679. Anyone got ideas on when the buttcoining craze will end so I can get in on dem sweet, sweet second hand GPU's?
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Guni posted:What the gently caress, buttcoiners. Pricing for GPU's in Australia (from major computer retailers, PCCG and umart) have gone up significantly. For instance the cheapest 3GB 1060 about a month ago was around $280-300 and it is now $399. What the gently caress man? Also, the cheapest 1070 is $679. Anyone got ideas on when the buttcoining craze will end so I can get in on dem sweet, sweet second hand GPU's? It's super unpredictable, last time this happened in 2013-2014 it lasted for a few months, it was pretty limited to AMD cards that time though.
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MaxxBot posted:It's super unpredictable, last time this happened in 2013-2014 it lasted for a few months, it was pretty limited to AMD cards that time though. I remember and from memory, at that time 290's/390's (whichever it was) became super cheap. Hoping the same will happen in a few months from now!
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From everything I've read, this poo poo ain't gonna last at all. All new alt coins and even Eth(the current darling of miners) are all about Proof of stake(i.e. Not mining). Eth was supposed to move to PoS this year but well, cryptocurrency 🕺🏻
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