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CPColin posted:Data trying to blast Kivas Fajo and then lying to Riker about it when he gets beamed away at the last second is one of the most badass things he ever did. And then he shows up at Fajo's cell once he's arrested and Fajo is all "So you came down here to feel all smug, eh?" and Data's like "No, I do not feel anything, I am an android." But why did Data go down to the brig to look at him, then?
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skasion posted:I seriously, seriously doubt that the protagonist is going to go a whole season without having been in command. To tell the truth I'd be a little surprised if she's not in command by the end of the premiere. It would be a daring choice to make a Star Trek show about someone who isn't a captain, but I have no idea why any network would sign off on it. It wouldn't be daring. It would be like most of the other Star Trek shows, because TOS was the only one that was really "The Captain Show, featuring some sidekicks". TNG, DS9, and Voyager were all pretty much soap operas set in space. Tons of episodes only featured the captain in the opening narration, and to pop in to give advice to what ever character was driving the plot. TNG especially, since they set a standard that the first officer does away missions. Tons of shows about how Data, Odo, the EMH Doctor, or 7 of 9 deal with humanity. Cultural exploration with Worf or Kira. Or all the times when the captain sat in the background and deferred to the Engineer or the Doctor, because the plot centered around a mechanical or medical problem. Even Barclay and Wesley had whole shows about them. A first officer show would get stale fast compared to the variety they get out of an ensemble cast.
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The West Wing and BSG are born great examples of shows where the CO has huge gravitas but the actual work is done by the XO and other subordinates. Actually, come to think of it TNG has many episodes where Picard only appears in a role as a CO. Then again, "Descent" and "Chain of Command."
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Shenzhou's transporter bay: Really emphasizing the "ripping your atoms into shreds" aspect here
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The_Doctor posted:There's some very 60s patterning in the middle there. It looks like some of the shingles are crooked. What the gently caress is this thing?
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The Bloop posted:It looks like some of the shingles are crooked. 
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The Bloop posted:It looks like some of the shingles are crooked. Maybe they're supposed to be energy-absorbing baffles. You wouldn't want any stray E-M bouncing around the room during transport, especially in the early days before [technobabble] was invented.
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I really dig the design direction they've taken. Very retro.
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Zurui posted:I really dig the design direction they've taken. Very retro. I hate literally everything about it.
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shadok posted:I hate literally everything about it. Star Trek: I hate literally everything about it
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The_Doctor posted:Proper TOS looking phaser hilt there. Agreed, but what is with literally everything else? ENT> WTF >TOS is an odd progression
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So I saw Beyond the other night and it was... Good? I quite enjoyed it anyways, the Franklin was really cool. Seeing Idris Elba in command gold was nice too. I do wish they went a little more into the idea of a culture washing over it's own problematic history, since that was actually a neat thread that is currently relevant and could've brought a lot of interesting discussions. Ah well.
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Cross-Section posted:Shenzhou's transporter bay: This is some loving Dr. Who quality sets here. Man this show is looking like garbage.
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Zurui posted:I really dig the design direction they've taken. Very retro. I read or heard somewhere they were taking it in an 60's Bond movie type style, hopefully it looks and sounds good in motion
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Zurui posted:The West Wing and BSG are born great examples of shows where the CO has huge gravitas but the actual work is done by the XO and other subordinates. And when I think about BSG, I remember Adama's intensity in the CIC and the complex relationships he had with his crew and civilian authorities and his trusty drunk right hand man, whose name might have been Tusk or Fisk. He was cool and awesome, but I can't remember his name right now and a show about him would have been a drag.
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CharlieWhiskey posted:And when I think about BSG, I remember Adama's intensity in the CIC and the complex relationships he had with his crew and civilian authorities and his trusty drunk right hand man, whose name might have been Tusk or Fisk. He was cool and awesome, but I can't remember his name right now and a show about him would have been a drag. His name was Jim, Jim Lehey. http://i.imgur.com/K9T39JB.mp4
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CharlieWhiskey posted:And when I think about BSG, I remember Adama's intensity in the CIC and the complex relationships he had with his crew and civilian authorities and his trusty drunk right hand man, whose name might have been Tusk or Fisk. He was cool and awesome, but I can't remember his name right now and a show about him would have been a drag. yeah the bald drunk guy was cool I think the thing that's going to date most modern sci fi stuff hardest is all the drat rubber costuming in everything, those vest things look silly
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Tighclops posted:those vest things look silly Keeping with Star Trek tradition then. 
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In a universe where most weapon hits kill you instantly, armor makes zero sense. It won't protect you and it'll just limit your mobility. It's also ugly as hell, like every other design on this show. That transporter room
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Baronjutter posted:His name was Jim, Jim Lehey. I let the liquor take total control, Apollo.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:In a universe where most weapon hits kill you instantly, armor makes zero sense. It won't protect you and it'll just limit your mobility. It's also ugly as hell, like every other design on this show. That transporter room This has always struck me as weird in Star Wars too. Stormtrooper armor looks cool as hell, but all it takes is one scorch mark and you're hosed.
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Cojawfee posted:I let the liquor take total control, Apollo. The shitvipers are launchin'.
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Orv posted:This has always struck me as weird in Star Wars too. Stormtrooper armor looks cool as hell, but all it takes is one scorch mark and you're hosed. Stormtrooper armor is meant to be intimidating more than useful I think.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:In a universe where most weapon hits kill you instantly, armor makes zero sense. It won't protect you and it'll just limit your mobility. It's also ugly as hell, like every other design on this show. That transporter room In a universe where most deaths seem to be from exploding consoles, blunt head trauma, weird primitive aliens stabbing you, and other such entirely preventable deaths, some basic level of PPE is really called for. At the very least eye protection or full face masks for working at a console, helmets and stab/bullet proof vests for away parties. It's not going to stop a disruptor, but it's going to protect you from falling rocks and shrapnel and most primitive weapons. I imagine with their technology they could do this with something extremely light. Also air/environmental systems possibly built into the helmets if there's any environmental hazards of risk of crazy purple knock-out gas or maybe the air makes everyone crazy.
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Orv posted:This has always struck me as weird in Star Wars too. Stormtrooper armor looks cool as hell, but all it takes is one scorch mark and you're hosed. Scorch mark, try sticks and stones in the hands of violent 3 ft tall teddy Bear monsters.
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The Bloop posted:Stormtrooper armor is meant to be intimidating more than useful I think. remusclaw posted:Scorch mark, try sticks and stones in the hands of violent 3 ft tall teddy Bear monsters. Yeah but it holds true for basically all armor in that universe. I don't know why anyone bothers.
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Orv posted:Yeah but it holds true for basically all armor in that universe. I don't know why anyone bothers. Armor made of lightsabers like Darth Kneepads cranked to twelve might be pretty effective.
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Man, everywhere is getting so mad about the designs in Discovery.
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:What do you reckon the transporter visual effect will be like Something new for no good reason. I honestly really like the JJ effect, speaking of. 
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:What do you reckon the transporter visual effect will be like Star wipe
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:What do you reckon the transporter visual effect will be like Stripes like the traveler disappearing with the old school Jeapordy filling in the categories sounds.
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Discovery emulates JJTrek designs: OMG IT'S TOO MODERN WHAT ABOUT TOS Discovery goes retro: OMG IT LOOKS LIKE poo poo
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Zurui posted:Discovery emulates JJTrek designs: OMG IT'S TOO MODERN WHAT ABOUT TOS What do you think "retro" means exactly? They intentionally made a prequel which is between two known visual style references and then apparently just went hog wild. Edit: like a pig. In the mud.
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It means 3D printed costume gribbles but the walls get hand-cut rubber strips over gold foil giftwrap.
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:What do you reckon the transporter visual effect will be like Quick frame skip and a "pop!" sound effect.
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Star Trek has way too many one off bits of technology that never get used again. "We'll be out of phase, so I've rigged up these devices that will put up a skin tight force field around us." Why isn't that tech used all the time? Get a bigger power source and use that to shield everyone from phaser blasts like the Borg.
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