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They also gave some indication of the progress on single player:quote:*All the story missions in the game have been designed and implemented and each one contains placeholder voices so we can hear how the story is working before we bring in professional actors.
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Interesting. I wouldn't have thought half that single player stuff would have even been started, what with how much time is projected until release. Glad to hear it, but a little surprised. Can't wait to play it!
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I'd love it if they kept some of those placeholder voices as a kind of optional extra for the released game. (Maybe not all of them, just a few of the funnier clips, gag reel style.)
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Zaodai posted:Interesting. I wouldn't have thought half that single player stuff would have even been started, what with how much time is projected until release. Glad to hear it, but a little surprised. I think they have spent a lot of work laying groundwork for the whole simulation part of the game and have just been plugging in all the different components and making sure they work nice before spending overly long on the single player up till now, since it has to sit on top of the simulation and present itself through it. The simulation sounds pretty robust under the hood, even looking at the stuff in the beta they left in for how to generate a random mechwarriors background and basic stats is really detailed.
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Jun 23, 2017 01:19
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There are posts appearing on the official forums that the AI is much better in this version.
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Phrosphor posted:There are posts appearing on the official forums that the AI is much better in this version. That's awesome news. Can't wait to play a few matches.
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Jun 23, 2017 05:23
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Yeah noticed it already. Can't really put my finger on it but it's definitely moving smarter and prioritizing targets better.
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Some nice UI changes. Mechs that are not actively doing anything now have a compressed health bar above their heads. Making for a lot less clutter on screen, mousing over the mech expands this back to what it was before. When taking actions or being targeted it expands as well. Indirect LRM's that miss the target scatter around the mech instead of falling a couple of miles short. Looks a lot cooler, Big LRM barrages look really crazy even on misses now. Lots of conflicting reports about AI, I think if they have done anything it might just have been to tweak the weighting of certain actions.
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Phrosphor posted:There are posts appearing on the official forums that the AI is much better in this version. I thought the backer update was saying the multiplayer patch was when the AI was to be improved? I played two Random 25mil. matches and a Locust Challenge vs. 4 Urbanmechs on Death Valley and didn't lose a single bugger. It still Braces when it shouldn't, sprints in to my formation isolated and moves to present its rear to my team for a long shot at a wounded light mech. All the old staples were still there in those 3 matches. Anyone here feel AI changed? My favorite UI change so far is the red pricing on Mechs you can't afford during selection.
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Phrosphor posted:I think they have spent a lot of work laying groundwork for the whole simulation part of the game and have just been plugging in all the different components and making sure they work nice before spending overly long on the single player up till now, since it has to sit on top of the simulation and present itself through it. The simulation sounds pretty robust under the hood, even looking at the stuff in the beta they left in for how to generate a random mechwarriors background and basic stats is really detailed. I've heard that a lot of what you'd think of as core game stuff actually happens quite late in development, idk if that's the case here or if they've just been optimistic about how fast they could get stuff done.
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A good Vice article. quote:(To give you an idea of what we're working with here: In one legendary scene, Prince Hanse Davion is darkly reflecting on the growing antiwar movement against his leadership. About five seconds later, his palace is attacked by enemy raiders and Hanse sprints to his old Mech—saying something like, "My enemies have forgotten that the battlefield was once my kingdom, and a Mech cockpit my throne!"—and rides to battle, single-handedly saving his capital. In the process he's wounded, and is satisfied that now his haters will have to acknowledge he pays the same price he asks of his people. It's like if the Queen's line about "being able to look the East End in the face" during the Blitz came on the heels of her using a Spitfire to shoot down a squadron of Stukas. And if I'm being honest, I still love this poo poo.) It's almost magical how bad the MWO people are at publicity, HBS are literally using every single robot model they've made but the F2P game (which is solid, if disappointing) never gets mentioned. sebmojo fucked around with this message at 11:42 on Jun 24, 2017 |
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This game gets so much stuff right. It's just how I always hope tabletop to computer translations will be handled in terms of staying true to the thrust of the game, but without getting caught up in slavishly recreating every nut and bolt. It feels like a proper computer game. A really pretty megamek would have been silly, but they managed to cram in an impressive amount of that good poo poo that makes Battletech feel like Battletech. Also, it would be great if this thread's title had the actual name of the game in it. I keep scrolling past it, even in my bookmarks. It's a decent joke title, but Battletech could still be in front of it.
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sebmojo posted:I've heard that a lot of what you'd think of as core game stuff actually happens quite late in development, idk if that's the case here or if they've just been optimistic about how fast they could get stuff done. My understanding is that for most games, there is a single digit number of weeks between the first time the game can be played start to finish to launch.
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 If you read the article, Jordan admits that the goal of the game is to recreate X-Com 1:1.
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Bubbacub posted:
No, he's saying he wants BattleTech (the video game) to be to BattleTech (the tabletop game) what XCOM (2012) was to X-Com (the original)- a faithful reimagining that wants to stays true to the ideas of the original while still reworking to fit it in a modern world.
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Bubbacub posted:
You lack basic reading comprehension goon.
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Sky Shadowing posted:No, he's saying he wants BattleTech (the video game) to be to BattleTech (the tabletop game) what XCOM (2012) was to X-Com (the original)- a faithful reimagining that wants to stays true to the ideas of the original while still reworking to fit it in a modern world. This guy gets it. Also a direct quote from the article. quote:"Our constant goal was that your familiarization with the Mechs from the old days should be valid," he said. "The tactics you employed from the old days should be valid. So it shouldn't make you rethink how to play the game. It should just do it in a way that's much more modern." I dunno about you but apart from damage values being changed and some different mechanics I need to account for, I still play this game the same way I played tabletop. I just wish my PPCs packed more of a punch.
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Bubbacub posted:
Ham Sandwiches, you forgot to sign out of your alt-account.
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Q_res posted:Ham Sandwiches, you forgot to sign out of your alt-account. he ran out of TU
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sebmojo posted:A good Vice article. On point: quote:"The 90s were certainly the peak days of the franchise," creator Jordan Weisman admitted, when we spoke at ParadoxCon in Stockholm last month. Then he paused and said, with a poo poo-eating, used-car salesman smile, "Until starting later this year!" Then he cringed, shrugged, and said with a sheepish smile, "Sorry, but I think I have to say that, right?" Not even going to attempt to claim that MWO has done anything positive for the franchise.
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Alchenar posted:Not even going to attempt to claim that MWO has done anything positive for the franchise.
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I really like that he seems to just say what's on his mind. Anywhere I've seen him talk he seems genuine.
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Alchenar posted:On point: I will always be grateful to MWO for hiring people good at visual design for the new mech models. The rest of it 110% deserves all the poo poo it gets, but the models are amazing and I'm sure they saved the HBS guys a TON of time not having to hire a bunch of modelers to create designs from scratch. edit: I mean, when they decided to cash in on the Unseen, as was loving inevitable, we easily could have gotten these for the Marauder and Warhammer:   poo poo, even their atlas is a good take on the classic design. Cyrano4747 fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Jun 24, 2017 |
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To be honest I'm ok with that marauder. Also I wanted to note this: "Weisman is sanguine about the new BattleTech's prospects." He's a goon, and he reads PTN's thread!  Well ok the article author does. vorebane fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Jun 24, 2017 |
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Delete the launcher on the shoulder and that Warhammer isn't so bad. The Marauder on the other hand is  .
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It's not just a good visual design, it also has the virtue of being consistent. Something that Battletech was sorely lacking given the I think there was a missed opportunity to rework the Clan mech to stop being extremely similar variations of two blocky designs but I can see how they were a bit too iconic at that point.
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someone hit that marauder on the head with a big cartoon mallet
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vorebane posted:To be honest I'm ok with that marauder. Skoll posted:Delete the launcher on the shoulder and that Warhammer isn't so bad. Well, proof that every hosed up thing is someone's kink I guess.
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Skoll posted:Delete the launcher on the shoulder and that Warhammer isn't so bad. you are full of bad opinions lmao
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Viva Miriya posted:you are full of bad opinions lmao Hey, I think your mom not swallowing you was a bad opinion, but I don't follow your dumb "lol I was only trying to bait him" rear end thread to thread crying about it. I find it kinda funny you act smug in IRC about it but not the discord you're in with the person you have the issue with. 
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Skoll posted:Hey, I think your mom not swallowing you was a bad opinion, but I don't follow your dumb "lol I was only trying to bait him" rear end thread to thread crying about it. I find it kinda funny you act smug in IRC about it but not the discord you're in with the person you have the issue with. quoting in case of edit
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Skoll posted:Hey, I think your mom not swallowing you was a bad opinion 
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i'm sorry that you have bad opinions on battletech art and battletech in general?!?!?! I dunno what else to say without joining you in the mong zone.
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please when you get mad ask yourself WWVSDD
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I'm sorry you take a 35 year old boardgame seriously to the point of HOLY poo poo THAT MEME IS 100 PERCENT TRUE TO LIFE SERIOUS and then got mad about the resulting pile on over your overreaction.  Whatever dude, continue being a butthurt grog.
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Cool.
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The Reseen were abominations unto god almost without exception and I'm glad that MWO hired away Iglesias from CGL, even if it means CGL doesn't get his sweet artwork much any longer. As for a unified aesthetic, that's one thing I'm not so thrilled about. With the hodgepodge of artists and art directors that BT has had over the decades, it's really helped give the feel that you've had multiple in-universe design bureaus and mech design trends come and go. Everything looking the same, even good the same, is a bit dull. I'll take a bunch of crap-looking mechs if I can have variety in the good stuff.
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Xotl posted:The Reseen were abominations unto god almost without exception and I'm glad that MWO hired away Iglesias from CGL, even if it means CGL doesn't get his sweet artwork much any longer. HOnestly I think we've still got that variety. Iglesias did a good job of making them look like they were all from the same universe without making them all look too similar. The commando, panther, hunchback, and Marauder are all obvious from the same universe using the same technology, but they have very different aesthetics. The problem that the game had basically from the beginning was that it was a bizarre mix of industrial and anime aesthetics. We can point to some things like the 3055 TRO era of artwork as being particularly goofy, but usually it's the poo poo that anime's the gently caress out of things that just makes it not click. Like, look at this poo poo. These area ll IIC varients of things from the afore mentioned 3055 TRO:     The designs themselves aren't poo poo, the art direction is just garbage that looks like it wants to be the latest Gundam series. Unified art direction that has a consistent feel is what's making the new stuff look good, without making the designs too samey.
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Jenner IIC tryna be Miss Macross and poo poo.
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