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Saul Goode posted:SBW May Never Live It Down I've noticed the NZ press has been super magnanimous for the most part. I was talking abiut this thread. (also I thought Mako should have got a red as well)
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bigfoot again posted:Watched the match but haven't read the thread yet. I assume NZ fans are blaming the ref, yes? You want rugby where every first receiver forward jumps into the defensive line to milk a penalty? I think the officiating for this tour has been abysmal in general, whatever side out favours.
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Ugh. Just got home from watching Chris Rock to see that. That penalty for tackling in the air was the biggest load of poo poo I've ever seen. ... Pick your loving avatar for me then.
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El Pollo Blanco posted:You want rugby where every first receiver forward jumps into the defensive line to milk a penalty? 1. He jumped to catch the ball, it's hardly milking a penalty. 2. The ref applied the laws. What would you like him to do?
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Jumped to catch a terrible pass, got hit in the air. This narrative that he jumped into the tackle needs to  . It's no different had it been a cross field kick and he got hit in the air jumping to catch it. It's technical but it's the right call by the laws.Vaders Jester fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Jul 1, 2017 |
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Jul 1, 2017 18:04
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The call was within the laws of the game, I'm still pissing myself at the thought of Vagabundo's post on the law but thems the breaks. It took a freak call in a bad game for the Lions to beat 14 All Blacks which says more about the two teams than that one penalty call.
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The Rabbi T. White posted:Ugh. Just got home from watching Chris Rock to see that. That penalty for tackling in the air was the biggest load of poo poo I've ever seen. I hope you get a good one.
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I have a toxx avatar ready, but I'm away from my computer for a few days.
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Tyma posted:I have a toxx avatar ready, but I'm away from my computer for a few days. I await my pain. Rewatching the game now that I'm sober: the Lions played better. The All Blacks made poor decisions regarding all their penalties - they did exactly what we all criticise NH teams of doing. However the reffing was inconsistent. SBW's tackle was certainly a red, but so was Mayo's clear out. Codie should've got a card and so should've whoever took out Naholo. Congrats to the better team on the day. That penalty was still crap though. I'd like to see the all blacks come out next week and from the kick off catch and pass the ball to someone while jumping to highlight how dumb that law is.
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Please defend this. https://twitter.com/killeroc/status/881074218603032576
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Should've been a red. If he'd done that for England I'd want him cited and he probably should be.
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At best borderline red. Yellow for sure then depends on the ref. Wasn't anywhere near as bad as sonny bill's tackle. That was right to the head, entirely a shoulder charge and Watson was being held in a tackle at the same time. If vunipolla's tackle was a red every day, there would have been way more reds in the history of rugby.
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Unimpressed posted:At best borderline red. Yellow for sure then depends on the ref. Wasn't anywhere near as bad as sonny bill's tackle. That was right to the head, entirely a shoulder charge and Watson was being held in a tackle at the same time. If vunipolla's tackle was a red every day, there would have been way more reds in the history of rugby. There's no significant difference between what Vunipola did and what SBW did, only that Watson wasn't lying prone. As soon as Garces sent off SBW, he set a precedent and any failure to adhere to it meant that he was not applying the law consistently. What Vunipola did easily meets the red card threshold. Meanwhile, Sean O'Brien has been cited for a swinging arm to Naholo's head, which took him out of the game. edogawa rando fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Jul 2, 2017 |
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Don't get me wrong, had Vunipola received a red it would have been absolutely fair IMO. But there are some differences that made SBW's tackle a no-choice red and Vunipola's more ambiguous. Vunipola was attempting to use his arms, his left arm was wrapping around BB. The hit to the head was glancing compared to the absolute crunch of SBW's. As I said, Vunipola could have gotten a red easily and it would have been fair, but if SBW hadn't gotten a red, it would have made a travesty.
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Unimpressed posted:Don't get me wrong, had Vunipola received a red it would have been absolutely fair IMO. But there are some differences that made SBW's tackle a no-choice red and Vunipola's more ambiguous. Vunipola was attempting to use his arms, his left arm was wrapping around BB. The hit to the head was glancing compared to the absolute crunch of SBW's. As I said, Vunipola could have gotten a red easily and it would have been fair, but if SBW hadn't gotten a red, it would have made a travesty. SBW was wrapping an arm around Watson.  There's a better quality video on here than the tweet I posted above. https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/lions-prop-mako-vunipola-sin-binned-after-cruel-shoulder-charge-beauden-barrett Even if the level of contact is not the same, there is obvious intent here. Vunipola knew exactly what he was doing. Had Garces been consistent, Vunipola would've been gone.  From 13 seconds in. Vunipola's forearm is clearly hitting Barrett's throat/jaw area. edogawa rando fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Jul 2, 2017 |
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Vunipola should absolutely be dropped for that bullshit and a red card would have been fair. Lol if you think that still shows sonny bill wrapping an arm though.
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bigfoot again posted:Vunipola should absolutely be dropped for that bullshit and a red card would have been fair. Lol if you think that still shows sonny bill wrapping an arm though. Well yes, I was being sarcastic. I was hoping someone would be all like "but SBW barely even used his arms!" so I could be all like "Exactly.  "
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MyChemicalImbalance posted:Lmao where's Mr chips at give that man a medal
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Mr Chips posted:What happened? I missed the Lions v ABs game, was sitting on the bench in the pissing rain for the 2nds while everyone else in my team had nicked off back to the clubhouse. We had one of those glorious days where drowning at the bottom of a ruck is a hazard. Turns out your stupid argument wasn't so stupid after all.
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TRISHY posted:Poor sunwolves Woof.
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4 weeks for Mr. Sonny William Williams.
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Mr Chips posted:What happened? Kieron Reed quoted one of your posts to the referee, while losing the game.
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Vagabundo posted:For gently caress's sake, stop handwringing over imagined scenarios that haven't happened since that law was amended a few seasons ago and probably never will. drat
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https://twitter.com/mike_cantillon/status/881295471502872576 Some quality fouls were missed by the ref and TMO in that match. Sam Cane on O'Brien I think? Vunipola should have been red carded and O'Brien will probably eat a suspension for his hit on Naholo. Vaders Jester fucked around with this message at 11:38 on Jul 2, 2017 |
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Vaders Jester posted:https://twitter.com/mike_cantillon/status/881295471502872576 SOB has just been cleared by the citing committee
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The committees are all shitters.
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Are they the same committee that looked at the Umaga/Mealamu/O'Driscoll tackle from '05?
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gently caress even I'm getting bored of people bringing that up
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Hey, so, in the other part of the world it was a pretty good day for USA Rugby! The Eagles qualified for the 2019 World Cup as Americans 1, for the first time ever, and get Pool C with England, France, Argentina, and [Oceania 2 TBD]. Here are some highlights, I recommend watching them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl_OE_TxQmo I recorded and saved it for July 4th, which turned out to be a good call. Apollodorus fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Jul 4, 2017 |
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That's fun rugby! USA's #8 looked hella-good.
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Yeah Dolan is a stud. And he plays for Cardiff Blues, you could watch him live next season.
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bigfoot again posted:1. He jumped to catch the ball, it's hardly milking a penalty. he had a foot on the ground when he caught it
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Soviet Space Dog posted:he had a foot on the ground when he caught it It was a no arm chop block too though. If he'd blown up for that it would've been less objectionable for sure.
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Apollodorus posted:Yeah Dolan is a stud. And he plays for Cardiff Blues, you could watch him live next season. He left the Blues at the end of the season. He was there 2 years and never really played.
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Here's the All Blacks team to play this weekend. 1. Joe Moody 2. Codie Taylor 3. Owen Franks 4. Brodie Retallick 5. Sam Whitelock 6. Jerome Kaino 7. Sam Cane 8. Kieran Read (C) 9. Aaron Smith 10. Beauden Barrett 11. Julian Savea 12. Ngani Laumape 13. Anton Lienert-Brown 14. Israel Dagg 15. Jordie Barrett 16. Nathan Harris 17. Wyatt Crockett 18. Charlie Faumuina 19. Scott Barrett 20. Ardie Savea 21. TJ Perenara 22. Aaron Cruden 23. Malakai Fekitoa
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stavros880 posted:He left the Blues at the end of the season. He was there 2 years and never really played. Whoops, I guess his profile wasn't updated.
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gently caress yeah Jordie.
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Lions 1. Mako Vunipola 2. Jamie George 3. Tadhg Furlong 4. Maro Itoje 5. Alun-Wyn Jones 6. Sam Warburton (C) 7. Sean O'Brien 8. Taulupe Faletau 9. Conor Murray 10. Jonathan Sexton 11. Elliot Daly 12. Owen Farrell 13. Jonathan Davies 14. Anthony Watson 15. Liam Williams 16. Ken Owens 17. Jack McGrath 18. Kyle Sinckler 19. Courtney Lawes 20. CJ Stander 21. Rhys Webb 22. Ben Te’o 23. Jack Nowell
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