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Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

i'm the mighty ducks sticker

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Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope

eschaton posted:

type ``mcdonald's'' to skip commercial

\o/ mcdonald's!

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
i wrote a systemd service unit today and it was cool and good

that is all

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

i wrote a systemd service unit today and it was cool and good

that is all

they're way less lovely to write than init.d scripts and unlike SMF or launchd you don't need xml-mode either

unironically glad pinhead2 used systemd

pram
Jun 10, 2001
systemd is actually really good

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Cocoa Crispies posted:

they're way less lovely to write than init.d scripts and unlike SMF or launchd you don't need xml-mode either

unironically glad pinhead2 used systemd

smf was also good, but couldn't be ported to linux

i'm happy with what i can get, even if it involved reinventing several wheels

VikingofRock
Aug 24, 2008




Notorious b.s.d. posted:

i wrote a systemd service unit today and it was cool and good

that is all

Neat.

What did it do?

sb hermit
Dec 13, 2016





VikingofRock posted:

Neat.

What did it do?

create an exploit vector by specifying an invalid user name thus granting root access to an innocuous service that actually has a back door

he just writes the services, he doesn't run them

sb hermit
Dec 13, 2016





:goonsay:

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill

el dorito posted:

create an exploit vector by specifying an invalid user name thus granting root access to an innocuous service that actually has a back door

he just writes the services, he doesn't run them

the NSA thanks you for your patriotic service

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

pram posted:

systemd is actually really good

way better still doesn't mean good

Max Facetime
Apr 18, 2009

Truga posted:

way better still doesn't mean good

but systemd is infinitely better than its predecessors :twisted:

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy
it's true

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

Max Facetime posted:

but systemd is infinitely better than its predecessors :twisted:

what predecessors lol?

Beldantazar
Sep 10, 2011

Shinku ABOOKEN posted:

what predecessors lol?

A bunch of garbage shell scripts held together by luck and bespoke artisanal wisdom are a fitting predecessor for linux.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007


pretty sure print screen works in kde too

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Tankakern posted:

pretty sure print screen works in kde too

that's not kde

maskenfreiheit
Dec 30, 2004
xfce is nice

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

i liked awesome for a while and then i realized that i wasn't the type of person to get annoyed by terminal windows not automatically being in the right spot and that weighed less than the also minor bugs it had with apps that relied on floating windows

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

crossposting from the xps15 thread,

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/26925/Linux-Processor-Microcode-Data-File?v=t

new microcode out that fixes that kaby lake/skylake hyperthreading bug finally out

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
Day0 Fedora-26 upgrading. :pcgaming:

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




ratbert90 posted:

Day0 Fedora-26 upgrading. :pcgaming:

*sprays silver tan over himself* tomorrow too probs its the release version already

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost
oh i've been using it for something like two months now with no problems (that haven't been fixed before release, video playback on hidpi screens is still hosed on wayland)

Ellie Crabcakes
Feb 1, 2008

Stop emailing my boyfriend Gay Crungus

OldAlias posted:

in Gnome/Linux it tells you when there are updates through the Software Catalogue, and it Just Works
Until it doesn't. Last update I did the power cable became dislodged and when I left to do something else during the week of updates it died right at the end. Hello Mr.Bootloop how r u. So I had to boot from a stick and flash another stick with the version that was almost mostly installed but the dildo startup disk creator wouldn't recognize the second stick and anyway it deleted and reinstalled all the packages it had upgraded and had to reinstall everything that wouldn't be be there with a fresh install and remove the stupid poo poo I never use.My home dir was still there, though, so I didn't have to download all of my weird porn again.

It's better than it used to be, sure, but it's still and a needlessly cruel thing to thing to do to your mom. And the update manager is written in python and I am of the opinion that they should put on their big boy pants and write important poo poo like that in a real language. Python has its uses (letting the world know you suck) but not that.

carry on then posted:

oh boy, they skinned ubuntu
I thought this was going to be something where you get to use all the barely usable graphic and music software that linux is famous for, but

quote:

The project's overarching purpose, by which all work will be measured, is making the Linux desktop as productive as possible for the engineering, devops, and computer science fields where Linux excels."
what

Also:

This guy FUCKS.

pram posted:

systemd is actually really good

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

linux never just doesn't work for me because i can usually understand what it's doing. as soon as i can't google a problem for windows i can't fix it

Ellie Crabcakes
Feb 1, 2008

Stop emailing my boyfriend Gay Crungus

hifi posted:

linux never just doesn't work for me because i can usually understand what it's doing. as soon as i can't google a problem for windows i can't fix it
It's it that difficult. Any problem with linux can be solved by googling the problem 90 times until you get the wording right, following the link to stack overflow, googling again because it has no replies, finding one that does have replies but they're all postcount++ from people with unpronounceable names from countries you're surprised even have computers, except one that links to a page from 2004, crying and then reinstalling.

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost

John Big Booty posted:

It's it that difficult. Any problem with linux can be solved by googling the problem 90 times until you get the wording right, following the link to stack overflow, googling again because it has no replies, finding one that does have replies but they're all postcount++ from people with unpronounceable names from countries you're surprised even have computers, except one that links to a page from 2004, crying and then reinstalling.

cool Linux fanfic

Ellie Crabcakes
Feb 1, 2008

Stop emailing my boyfriend Gay Crungus

Sapozhnik posted:

cool Linux fanfic
My linux fanfic has a lot more buttfucking in it.

OldAlias
Nov 2, 2013

John Big Booty posted:

Until it doesn't. Last update I did the power cable became dislodged and when I left to do something

pebkac bithc this behaviour won't be any better on other systems

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

John Big Booty posted:

It's it that difficult. Any problem with linux can be solved by googling the problem 90 times until you get the wording right, following the link to stack overflow, googling again because it has no replies, finding one that does have replies but they're all postcount++ from people with unpronounceable names from countries you're surprised even have computers, except one that links to a page from 2004, crying and then reinstalling.

or just look at the source code

OldAlias
Nov 2, 2013

also why are you using the startup disk creator for nontrivial things. escape to a TTY and use fdisk or smth

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)

hifi posted:

or just look at the source code

VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:

um excuse me as a casual computer user i'm reviewing the source code to pulseaudio before committing my system to it

now, what does #include do?

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost
red hat's installation experience is poo poo tbh

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

like sure, windows just works but what if it doesn't? there's no source code, no documentation, and community support is either "are you sure you didn't reboot it? try again" or "disable uac"


i understand but if you get a stack trace generally you can figure out what's going on, and you're limited to maybe 100 lines of code you have to understand. this is a thread about linux on a forum for computer experts

OldAlias
Nov 2, 2013

anaconda still falls over and shits itself at the slightest provocation. you should just do everything on the cli if what you need isn't straight forward (which takes about as much time) or you could carve poo poo up beforehand and hope for the best

sb hermit
Dec 13, 2016





hifi posted:

i understand but if you get a stack trace generally you can figure out what's going on, and you're limited to maybe 100 lines of code you have to understand. this is a thread about linux on a subforum for computer experts

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

the url has forumid not subforumid

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)

if you only need 100 lines of code you've never seen before to identify and fix a problem, that problem was trivial

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Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost

OldAlias posted:

anaconda still falls over and shits itself at the slightest provocation. you should just do everything on the cli if what you need isn't straight forward (which takes about as much time) or you could carve poo poo up beforehand and hope for the best

https://lwn.net/Articles/725623/

the anaconda developers have no idea what the gently caress they are doing

sorry if that hurts anybody's feelings but jfc they are not doing a good job

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