Star Citizen: Death of a Space Thread?

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cheesetriangles: Jan 5, 2011

So they actually dropped VR support? When using VR in a space sim is super amazing?

Is it because the game runs at 10 fps?

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Bofast: Feb 21, 2011; Grimey Drawer

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I'm disappointed in the lack of procedurally generated star citizens. :colbert:

Foo Diddley posted:

So if you get blown up you should spend a week without a ship, yeah that sounds reasonable and wouldn't make anyone quit the game or anything. I'm sure those players would all spend the downtime scrubbing space toilets and stacking space crates on some whale's ship instead. Guys like Lethality won't have to do this, of course, because they have a couple dozen ships to rotate between

Well, guys like Lethality could easily end up dying 20 times as often in-game and have the same problem. Of course, that would require the game to come out and have the whole thing actually work, so... :shrug:

# ? Jul 17, 2017 10:50

Tijuana Bibliophile: Dec 30, 2008; Scratchmo

cheesetriangles posted:

So they actually dropped VR support? When using VR in a space sim is super amazing?

Is it because the game runs at 10 fps?

There's a list of reasons, that being one of them. Others are headbob 2.0 and all the immersion animations

# ? Jul 17, 2017 10:53

Tippis: Mar 21, 2008; It's yet another day in the wasteland.

cheesetriangles posted:

So they actually dropped VR support? When using VR in a space sim is super amazing?

Is it because the game runs at 10 fps?

Funnily enough, that's the least of their actual problem, next to the fundamental incompatibility with everything they've designed so far, but it's probably the one reason that Chris would possibly understand or acknowledge. The notion that all their camera work, animation work, 1P/3P-integration work, fidelity filter work, and� well� you know, the stuff that makes for fancy bullshot material (and thus is the only thing they've actually worked on) is directly detrimental and contrary to proper VR design or immersion is just too much to bear.

# ? Jul 17, 2017 10:54

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

cheesetriangles posted:

So they actually dropped VR support? When using VR in a space sim is super amazing?

Is it because the game runs at 10 fps?

People will give you many technical reasons. They can't keep the framerate high enough, the animation system is entirely unsuited to VR, blah blah.

The real reason is they're useless fucks who're completely out of their loving depth. Basic VR support was in and working, not because CIG did anything proactive but because it was already a Cryengine feature. Then something they did broke VR support, and they're too dumb to know what broke it or how to fix it. That's it.

# ? Jul 17, 2017 11:07

Sandweed: Sep 7, 2006; All your friends are me.

cheesetriangles posted:

So they actually dropped VR support? When using VR in a space sim is super amazing?

Is it because the game runs at 10 fps?

Forced FPS animations combined with VR is basically a trip straight to barf town.

# ? Jul 17, 2017 11:08

Space Skeleton: Sep 28, 2004

As soon as they put the first mocap cockpit animation in the game the possibility of VR support was dead and buried. The two are just incompatible, games go to great lengths to not force the camera to move around for VR and here you have elaborate animations where the character climbs in and out of stuff or wiggles around even during regular movement. It gives really bad motion sickness.

# ? Jul 17, 2017 11:21

BeigeJacket: Jul 21, 2005

Are they actually doing the seamless 'fly yr ship from space down to the surface', or had that gone away?

If so, how much RAM would you need ffs?

# ? Jul 17, 2017 11:25

xXAdmiralBekHarXx: Jul 11, 2017; by zen death robot

cheesetriangles posted:

So they actually dropped VR support? When using VR in a space sim is super amazing?

Is it because the game runs at 10 fps?

The VR specialist they hired to work on VR quit CIG in 2016 to go "work on VR".

# ? Jul 17, 2017 11:25

BeigeJacket: Jul 21, 2005

Edit: this post reserved for Stimpire propaganda

# ? Jul 17, 2017 11:25

Codezombie: Sep 2, 2016

Sandweed posted:

Forced FPS animations combined with VR is basically a trip straight to barf town.

VR camera controls are pretty tricky beasts. When I was working on Dirt Rally, we had to decouple the camera from certain crash situations (which are physics based) to reduce the problems associated with nausea.
For example the camera temporarily decouples from the drivers head node when the car starts to roll. Its critical you do things like this if you want your game to even be remotely playable in VR, oh and having a high FPS is critical, and no longer a "nice thing to have", that effects the whole team too, as everyone has to code and design assets for efficiency.

# ? Jul 17, 2017 11:27

Quavers: Feb 26, 2016; You clearly don't understand game development

Codezombie posted:

VR camera controls are pretty tricky beasts. When I was working on Dirt Rally, we had to decouple the camera from certain crash situations (which are physics based) to reduce the problems associated with nausea.
For example the camera temporarily decouples from the drivers head node when the car starts to roll. Its critical you do things like this if you want your game to even be remotely playable in VR, oh and having a high FPS is critical, and no longer a "nice thing to have", that effects the whole team too, as everyone has to code and design assets for efficiency.

Efficiency is the enemy of fidelity, and counter to the vision of Christ Roberts. Begone, Star Citizen hater

# ? Jul 17, 2017 11:41

Aramoro: Jun 1, 2012

Warhawk109 posted:

So I had an itch to play world of warships. Tried to set up an account but never received the activation email. Checked literally every folder too. Nada.

Seemed like it's a pretty common issue. FAQ page says to get a friend to submit a CS ticket for you. Catch 22 if you don't have any friends playing the game already. :/

If you're EU then I can do that for you, if you're NA then I'm sure there's a Goon in the WoWS thread that can do it.

# ? Jul 17, 2017 11:45

xXAdmiralBekHarXx: Jul 11, 2017; by zen death robot

Another direct solid Citizen response to why the website still says 100 systems at launch in a bunch of places despite it being common knowledge for "years" now that that wouldn't be the case.

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they are working on scripts for the website to auto update/pull data from the game.

The Citizenry is strong in Touchdowntim's thread.

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/6nplv5/so_the_consensus_from_the_community_is/dkba601/

# ? Jul 17, 2017 11:49

Codezombie: Sep 2, 2016

Quavers posted:

Efficiency is the enemy of fidelity, and counter to the vision of Christ Roberts. Begone, Star Citizen hater

Funny story.
A couple of weeks back a recruiter for F42's manchester studio contacted someone here, when that person asked what the job security was like, the recruiter said they'd check and get back to them.
They never did get back to my mate... Go figure.

# ? Jul 17, 2017 11:49

Beexoffel: Oct 4, 2015; Herald of the Stimpire

Daztek posted:

https://www.pcgamesn.com/star-citizen/star-citizen-derelicts-30

Interesting how one commenter, Mr. Blobers, avoids answering the straightforward question if he is a CIG employee.

# ? Jul 17, 2017 11:54

Beer4TheBeerGod: Aug 23, 2004; Exciting Lemon

Man I really missed how paranoid some of these backers are.

# ? Jul 17, 2017 11:58

Codezombie: Sep 2, 2016

Beexoffel posted:

Interesting how one commenter, Mr. Blobers, avoids answering the straightforward question if he is a CIG employee.

There's a bit of snickering going on regarding the water simulation over at the TCE forums, nice to see as the Star Citizen thread is been in hibernation there for a while.
A few devs pointing out that CIG should really be nailing gameplay before messing around with this sort of thing.

Its interesting, as unless this is critical to SC's development, then this sort of research is what you do between projects when there is nothing else to do.

# ? Jul 17, 2017 12:01

lazorexplosion: Mar 19, 2016

The mental gymnastics of 'sure they repeatedly said 100 planets at launch but that doesn't mean 100 planets at launch' is world-beating.
http://i.imgur.com/djx0UgO.gifv

# ? Jul 17, 2017 12:05

lazorexplosion: Mar 19, 2016

Those darn publishers forcing devs to push unfinished content lacking games out the door! :argh:

# ? Jul 17, 2017 12:11

lazorexplosion: Mar 19, 2016

They aren't behind schedule, once they get the proc gen technology up and running it will be easy to make a hundred pl... *reads update*... we all knew they weren't going to make a hundred of planets at launch you must be a troll to expect that, don't you understand game development.

# ? Jul 17, 2017 12:16

Beer4TheBeerGod: Aug 23, 2004; Exciting Lemon

Codezombie posted:

There's a bit of snickering going on regarding the water simulation over at the TCE forums, nice to see as the Star Citizen thread is been in hibernation there for a while.
A few devs pointing out that CIG should really be nailing gameplay before messing around with this sort of thing.

Its interesting, as unless this is critical to SC's development, then this sort of research is what you do between projects when there is nothing else to do.

CIG should have been nailing gameplay back in 2012, let alone 2017.

# ? Jul 17, 2017 12:17

Codezombie: Sep 2, 2016

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

CIG should have been nailing gameplay back in 2012, let alone 2017.

I clearly do not understand games development...

# ? Jul 17, 2017 12:22

Beet Wagon: Oct 19, 2015

Hopper posted:

A real life friend of mine, who is a seasoned gamer in his late 30ies with 20+ years of gaming in his CV and who regularly plays all kinds of games actually defends CR. He only bought the Aurora starter pack, so I am not worried about his finances, but he refuses to accept any negative or cautious remarks on the game. When I mentioned the Couts&Crobbers deal and told him I was sceptical about that, he immediately told me "seems like you have been reading too much of those hater websites".

The scary part is I know for a fact he does not read SA or reddit, he is not active in any online communities...he only reads Gamestar. So apparently even minds isolated from the shillizens' brainwashing rhetoric can be infected with croberitis.
Needless to say, we don't talk about SC any more.

I still have a couple real life friends who occasionally whine about how EVIL GOONS are ruining Star Citizen, and tell me that my getting a refund was A) a huge mistake that I'm going to regret as soon as the game comes out and B) the result of a nefarious plot by Something Awful to manipulate backers into getting a refund.

I just don't have the heart to tell them.

# ? Jul 17, 2017 12:25

xXAdmiralBekHarXx: Jul 11, 2017; by zen death robot

Beet Wagon posted:

I still have a couple real life friends who occasionally whine about how EVIL GOONS are ruining Star Citizen, and tell me that my getting a refund was A) a huge mistake that I'm going to regret as soon as the game comes out and B) the result of a nefarious plot by Something Awful to manipulate backers into getting a refund.

I just don't have the heart to tell them.

Tell them. They would want to know the truth about you.

# ? Jul 17, 2017 12:27

HKS: Jan 31, 2005

Hopper posted:

A real life friend of mine, who is a seasoned gamer in his late 30ies with 20+ years of gaming in his CV and who regularly plays all kinds of games actually defends CR. He only bought the Aurora starter pack, so I am not worried about his finances, but he refuses to accept any negative or cautious remarks on the game. When I mentioned the Couts&Crobbers deal and told him I was sceptical about that, he immediately told me "seems like you have been reading too much of those hater websites".

The scary part is I know for a fact he does not read SA or reddit, he is not active in any online communities...he only reads Gamestar. So apparently even minds isolated from the shillizens' brainwashing rhetoric can be infected with croberitis.
Needless to say, we don't talk about SC any more.

is your real life friend german? because I've said this before. For a culture of people who pride themselves on their auditing and engineering perfection they lack any sort of real critical thinking. They were sold a packaged david hasselhoff and bought him as a star and idolized him for real, so of course they also idolize chris roberts.

yea come at me german goons.

# ? Jul 17, 2017 12:30

HKS: Jan 31, 2005

when you idolize anyone you become blind.

# ? Jul 17, 2017 12:32

HKS: Jan 31, 2005

if you think of chris roberts as just a man and not an idol. he is very very stupid.

# ? Jul 17, 2017 12:35

fuctifino: Jun 11, 2001

Kosumo posted:

Is it true that BDSSE stands for But Derek Smart Sees Everything?

Is that why Chris keeps saying it cos he is mad.

It's now been archered into a fact

https://twitter.com/GhandiSardiner/status/886914315311341568

# ? Jul 17, 2017 12:44

Beet Wagon: Oct 19, 2015

xXAdmiralBekHarXx posted:

Tell them. They would want to know the truth about you.

If they did even the slightest bit of looking into the "GOON MENACE" they'd immediately recognize my dog, so I feel like it's kind of on them.

Speaking of:

# ? Jul 17, 2017 12:45

Mr Fronts: Jan 31, 2016; Yo! The Mafia supports you. But don't tell no one. Spread the word.

Dreams from the crypt... 2014 Edition...

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/24c0t5/how_will_the_webcam_face_recognition_work_with/

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/24a586/the_pros_and_cons_of_unique_noninstanced_content/

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/249aqp/want_to_play_on_2_accounts_which_ships_go_where/

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/242d18/all_this_talk_about_different_armor_types_got_me/

There is a bonus CR promise in this one! To the promise tracker!...

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/2406iv/two_interesting_bits_of_info_chris_roberts/

Note that this is all from before the "dogfighting module" made its grand entrance. ~dreams~

# ? Jul 17, 2017 12:50

Ramadu: Aug 25, 2004; 2015 NFL MVP

Beet Wagon posted:

I still have a couple real life friends who occasionally whine about how EVIL GOONS are ruining Star Citizen, and tell me that my getting a refund was A) a huge mistake that I'm going to regret as soon as the game comes out and B) the result of a nefarious plot by Something Awful to manipulate backers into getting a refund.

I just don't have the heart to tell them.

i just cannot figure how getting a refund would ever be something to regret. the ships are earnable in game riiiiiiiiight?

# ? Jul 17, 2017 12:53

Beet Wagon: Oct 19, 2015

Beer, you really should keep your status with /r/starcitizen in mind. It's not nice to ruffle those poor idiots' feathers just by existing.

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This has nothing to do with what he posted just now.

You have no idea who Beer is so you have no context. I'm talking about what Beer did with the rep he built up over a couple of years. There's a reason he hasn't been back here in a long time. He turned from goofy critic I think a lot of us, myself included, supported to ax murderer in the blink of an eye.

# ? Jul 17, 2017 12:56