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Grondoth posted:Look at the places that are rich and well kept. if this is the measuring stick then there are large swathes of the city that have zero power.
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Parts of Buffalo are doing okay. All in all, it's doing well! If you were here years ago and someone showed you Canalside, you'd be blown the gently caress away. However, the growth has largely been focused around downtown, and it's obvious. I know that's nothing new to cities, but it's very disheartening to see so much improvement in some places and watch so many others languish. There's been lots of rumbling but no real movement on getting rid of the dumbest goddamn ideas we ever had here, which was how we laid out roads. We had a first of its kind parkway system and we demolished it way back in the 60's.
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Jul 27, 2017 02:55
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Matt Zerella posted:if this is the measuring stick then there are large swathes of the city that have zero power. Yes That's what I was gettin' at
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Jul 27, 2017 02:55
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Grondoth posted:Yes fair enough. the upstate downstate rivalry is still really loving dumb. both sides gently caress each other over equally.
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immigrants are doing things that native-born americans refuse to do, like move to buffalo en masse for real though, it does have a large immigrant community there gobbagool posted:what should upstaters do? wait for GE and Chevy to hire in Schenectady and Tonawanda again? as long as the economic fate of upstate is dictated by the whims of the City, there won't be any big new factory built, or anything that would bring any large number of jobs in. I mean the proof is in the pudding, anywhere I travel in south and west I meet people from upstate.
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Foursquare wants us to beg them to open an office up here: https://twitter.com/Foursquare/status/890238448736641025
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Jul 27, 2017 04:08
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"tech" companies don't even create that many jobs to begin with. i put tech in quotes because what they do is increasingly broad, and they don't even create anything of worth
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get that OUT of my face posted:immigrants are doing things that native-born americans refuse to do, like move to buffalo en masse no. I work in NYC when I go to the office once every couple weeks. I live upstate and have a huge new house on a ton of land surrounded by hundreds of acres of nature preserve and forever wild. I'm not the target of Trumps comments. lots of people who once had good jobs in factories might be listening though. his comments were indelicate but not wrong.
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Jul 27, 2017 11:25
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Grondoth posted:Parts of Buffalo are doing okay. All in all, it's doing well! If you were here years ago and someone showed you Canalside, you'd be blown the gently caress away. However, the growth has largely been focused around downtown, and it's obvious. I know that's nothing new to cities, but it's very disheartening to see so much improvement in some places and watch so many others languish. look at yesterday's Buffalo news there's a plan afoot to fix he scajaqueda where it goes through Delaware park. not I perfect fix but an improvement.
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Jul 27, 2017 11:39
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Matt Zerella posted:show your work please because if that was the case the MTA would be fully funded and modernized. why do downstaters keep electing downstaters to the governors office who turnaround and use the MTA as a slush fund? how is that an upstate driven issue? do you understand how Authorities work?
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gobbagool posted:why do downstaters keep electing downstaters to the governors office who turnaround and use the MTA as a slush fund? how is that an upstate driven issue? do you understand how Authorities work? Because of the unholy alliance of Long Island, Westchester, and Upstate.
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Jul 27, 2017 13:36
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Grondoth posted:Parts of Buffalo are doing okay. All in all, it's doing well! If you were here years ago and someone showed you Canalside, you'd be blown the gently caress away. However, the growth has largely been focused around downtown, and it's obvious. I know that's nothing new to cities, but it's very disheartening to see so much improvement in some places and watch so many others languish. 
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Jul 27, 2017 13:43
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CaptainPsyko posted:Because of the unholy alliance of Long Island, Westchester, and Upstate. upstate didn't put prince Andrew in office http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2014/11/cuomo_wins_ny_but_loses_upstate.html don't pin that guy on us
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i'm pretty okay with your awful island city drowning in the atlantic in the next few years, if it means the end of wherever they breed Trumps and Scaramuccis
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gobbagool posted:upstate didn't put prince Andrew in office No, Upstate just gave him the legislative conditions necessary to run roughshod over both chambers and consolidate power to his own ends. He doesn't get to play his dumb triangulation bullshit without upstate and suburban senators pushing out his right flank. They give the maneuvering room he needs to ignore the city without suffering electoral consequences, because the alternative is chucklefucks like "hasn't met a racial slur he didn't love" Paladino.
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CaptainPsyko posted:No, Upstate just gave him the legislative conditions necessary to run roughshod over both chambers and consolidate power to his own ends. Why does NYC keep electing governors who screw the city? If NYC decided that they wanted some DSA candidate, not much upstate could do about it
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gobbagool posted:Why does NYC keep electing governors who screw the city? If NYC decided that they wanted some DSA candidate, not much upstate could do about it The DSA hasn't really put anyone forth yet and they're focusing on more local govt right now. Like I posted earlier with El Yateem in Brooklyn. The Working Families Party (which is how I vote when given the opportunity) would be the ones to watch on challenging Cuomo from the left, but he's also tried his hardest to gently caress them over too. He's a shitstain so you'll get no argument from me there. And personally I prefer a governor who helps the whole state, not just NYC. One of the problems with what Cuomo is doing in raiding the MTA coffers is that it's not a thing that only he has done. It should be in a lockbox, but he's too busy virtue signaling that he's going to fix the system by adding USB ports to a bus line in the bronx.
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gobbagool posted:Why does NYC keep electing governors who screw the city? If NYC decided that they wanted some DSA candidate, not much upstate could do about it NYS Population: 19.7 million NYC Population: 8.2 million. 51% of 19.7m: 9.85m Upstate + Suburbs > NYC. And that's before you get into the relative proportions of voting citizens.
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Matt Zerella posted:if this is the measuring stick then there are large swathes of the city that have zero power. This is very accurate, as you should know.
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CaptainPsyko posted:NYS Population: 19.7 million Except upstate voted against Cuomo
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gobbagool posted:Except upstate voted against Cuomo There's no electoral college in New York. Land doesn't have a vote.
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CaptainPsyko posted:There's no electoral college in New York. Land doesn't have a vote. But you can't blame upstate for Cuomo, as I've said multiple times in this very thread. He's your fault.
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gobbagool posted:But you can't blame upstate for Cuomo, as I've said multiple times in this very thread. He's your fault. I don't. I blame upstate for setting up the terrible "mother may I" situation that NYC finds itself in W/R/T doing anything that requires action in Albany, which is the enabling condition that allows Cuomo to be the massive shitheel that he is.
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gobbagool posted:But you can't blame upstate for Cuomo, as I've said multiple times in this very thread. He's your fault. also your response to my post tells me that you're someone who is well-off enough that you don't have to give a poo poo about the many people around you who aren't. that's worse than what i accused you of
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gobbagool posted:no. I work in NYC when I go to the office once every couple weeks. I live upstate and have a huge new house on a ton of land surrounded by hundreds of acres of nature preserve and forever wild. I'm not the target of Trumps comments. lots of people who once had good jobs in factories might be listening though. his comments were indelicate but not wrong. Upstate goon party at your house! 
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Upstate goon party at your house!
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get that OUT of my face posted:david cross owns a big house in sullivan county, doesn't he? I'm afraid I'm not really "in" with the rich and famous. 
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Upstate goon party at your house! I'd love that. I have a 40 gallon barrel of cider I made from ancient trees on my lot, it's probably about 15% abv and tastes like vanilla apple heaven. one of my buddies does pig roasts and my 200 yard range is open for business.
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gobbagool posted:I'd love that. I have a 40 gallon barrel of cider I made from ancient trees on my lot, it's probably about 15% abv and tastes like vanilla apple heaven. one of my buddies does pig roasts and my 200 yard range is open for business. 
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gobbagool posted:I'd love that. I have a 40 gallon barrel of cider I made from ancient trees on my lot, it's probably about 15% abv and tastes like vanilla apple heaven. one of my buddies does pig roasts and my 200 yard range is open for business. This sounds amazing
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gobbagool posted:I'd love that. I have a 40 gallon barrel of cider I made from ancient trees on my lot, it's probably about 15% abv and tastes like vanilla apple heaven. one of my buddies does pig roasts and my 200 yard range is open for business. Great, I'll bring the truckload of .22lr.
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CSPAM militia party it is!
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Buffalo built a $750m factory for Tesla to produce solar panels. The state owns the factory, but Tesla is only paying $1/year to lease it. It's widely thought that Tesla changed their mind about using the factory, as they haven't let anyone from the public inside of it since last autumn. This factory was supposed to be the crown jewel of Cuomo's START-UP NY project. I'm pretty sure everyone in Western NY has enough apathy to just not care about anything anymore.
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Korthal posted:Buffalo built a $750m factory for Tesla to produce solar panels. The state owns the factory, but Tesla is only paying $1/year to lease it. It's widely thought that Tesla changed their mind about using the factory, as they haven't let anyone from the public inside of it since last autumn. This factory was supposed to be the crown jewel of Cuomo's START-UP NY project. I'm pretty sure everyone in Western NY has enough apathy to just not care about anything anymore. yeah that was a huge fleecing. empire zones are same. they paid Windstream millions of dollars to move from Karner rd in colonie to downtown Albany into an empire zone where they no longer had to pay taxes. as it was most of Windstream's revenue in this area came from the State of New York account. there was absolutely nothing to be gained by that except transferring money from NYS to Windstream. no new jobs or anything.
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Start Up NY, at one point, only created a little more than 60 jobs. i can't imagine that it's broken triple digits
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How are these "jobs" programs and business tax-breaks anything other then corruption?
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Because it has startup in the name Everybody loves startups  Apps
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At least we didn't get ripped off as bad as Foxconn is about to screw Wisconsin.
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CaptainPsyko posted:At least we didn't get ripped off as bad as Foxconn is about to screw Wisconsin. Whats going on with Foxconn?
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:How are these "jobs" programs and business tax-breaks anything other then corruption? someone gettin paid
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