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Intel&Sebastian posted:It's been a while but it was either said or implied that old bernard had been kind of written out of the park history and knowledge. Which wouldnt be hard if it had been long enough and you have as much control as Ford. Exactly, like, before Social Network came out, who knew about Eduardo Saverin?
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Vlonald Prump posted:
Not if Ford made Bernard the equivalent of the basement door ohhhhhhh poo poo theyre all hosts!!!!
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bring back old gbs posted:Not if Ford made Bernard the equivalent of the basement door ohhhhhhh poo poo theyre all hosts!!!! Or, you know, the fact it was over 30 years ago and he quietly removed all the old staff over time before bringing in Bernard.
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Wild Horses posted:They probably made all the horses reallllllly docile for all the rich assholes Poor daisy, thought of free will and died
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:Poor daisy, thought of free will and died Finding stupid yet creative ways of dying is what horses do best.
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Arnold was said to be very private, eventually becoming crazy. Even William and Logan couldn't find his picture after a 5 year time jump.
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https://medium.com/hbo-cinemax-pr/hbo-cinemax-programming-overview-dca4424c4c44 Westworld season 2 set to premiere in Spring (March, April, May or June I guess)
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The whole Arnold thing is silly anyway. Quick, describe the appearance of your company's COO in 1987.
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Peanut President posted:He knocked the phone off the handle with his nose and when the operator answered (this is how phones used to work) he asked her to put him in to the feed store. The more important question is...how did he pay?
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A Buttery Pastry posted:How does a horse talk? I don't think they have the mouth architecture to mimic human speech. Look at this idiot who didn't see the documentary Mister Ed.
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Mister Ed was bitten by a radioactive human and gained the power of human speech.
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He ate Wilbur's throat lozenges and gained the permanent power of speech. God, it's like you've never even paid attention to the opening credits.
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Cojawfee posted:What makes a robot man be intelligent but a robot horse not? They are both robots. There's no rules for what a robot can be. Actually there are three of them.
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regulargonzalez posted:The whole Arnold thing is silly anyway. Quick, describe the appearance of your company's COO in 1987. Since there's pictures of him everywhere I can describe him to you in detail. Usually Founders of companies are celebrated/recognized It is odd that everyone knows his name, but not what he looks like. I wouldn't think it would be that uncommon.
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Ford and Arnold are daft punk. No one knew what they looked like.
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fun fact: in 2007 the two dudes from Daft Punk made an arthouse movie called Electroma where their robots drive into a town where everyone (man, woman and child) all have one of the two robot heads. They go to a lab and get human heads plastic molded on top of their helmet heads, and then go walking around until they're chased out of town by the robo people. It's an OK movie that was mostly just an expensive excuse to let Bangalter flex latent cinematographer muscles.... but the most amazing thing about the movie is that the two human heads they molded over their robo heads are their actual faces and no one really realized it or (as far as I know) even suspected it until after RAM came out and a picture of them sans helmets circulated widely.
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I have heard that they used to take their helmets off after performing, though this might be wrong. A friend says he saw it circa 1999 when he was at an electronic music festival and knew them only as "these cool French robot guys that do techno."
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A Buttery Pastry posted:How does a horse talk? I don't think they have the mouth architecture to mimic human speech. Look, I'm just a backwoods hyper chicken from beyond the stars, but on my home planet there is a saying: "do not look a talking horse in the mouth."
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Yeah, it was some point in the late 90's when they went from "we should wear these helmets all the time that'd be fun" to "this is our thing now and we are actively fighting any attempt to connect our real faces to this act" and it worked pretty well because they did it before they got super huge, before the net was real crazy about that sort of thing and before anyone really gave a poo poo what EDM guys looked like.
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So, only on episode 3 right now, but I've got some questions regarding things I've seen and how it works in Westworld. Regarding the hosts, they routinely get beat up, cut up, bloodied, etc. So, does each day have a certain end-time where all the hosts return to the lab and get patched up, or how does that work? Like, could someone shoot Dolores first thing in the morning, and then she would get carted off, patched up, and put back in the game that same day, or is she out of commission until the next day? It seems like there isn't a distinct end-time, but I just don't get how things reset, either. Like, say I pay for a 2-week package. I can basically stay up all day long and night long and go kill a bunch of people...they have to get put back at some point, right? It's just not making sense how the blackhat guy seems to be killing anything and everything-wouldn't that take away from other people's experiences? Also, from what I've seen, everything is a robot (the hosts, the horses, the rattlesnake in episode 2). Are flies also robots? Just wondering why they are attracted to the hosts, especially in episode 3 with the new script that shows a bunch of people cut up and flies all over them. A female human running around with Teddy visibly appears that she can smell something rancid, so I'm just wondering how the fake skin/blood/etc ends up smelling rancid to humans and attracting either real flies or robotic flies.
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The host's bodies are biological and can decay, though they don't explain exactly how they're unlike human bodies--but they basically seem to be flesh bodies like anyone else's. There is dialogue later that clarifies the situation with the flies.
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nwiniwn posted:So, only on episode 3 right now, but I've got some questions regarding things I've seen and how it works in Westworld. They specifically call out that the flies are real, it's a plot point for Dolores and the Sheriff in literally the first episode. The entire point of the dramatic final shot of the pilot episode is that Delores was able to harm a living thing when we saw through the episode that hosts are meant to ignore flies because they can't hurt anything actually alive. Entropic fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Aug 2, 2017 |
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My biggest protip for this show is do not post in this thread until you're done with it, for various reasons. IMO you're not going to get anything out of asking stuff like this as you progress through to people who have already seen the show (and might possibly spoil poo poo for you intentionally or not). Not to mention the risk of seeing poo poo while people discuss season 2 or things past where you're watching. Just let the show take care of your "I wonder why..." stuff and if it doesn't then ya'll come on back now y'hear. That said, I don't think they ever really suss out the exact system and schedule of how hosts get cycled out of the park for repair so don't worry too much about that. My guess is that they just wait until there's a reasonably low risk of running into a guest and then grab them then. It doesn't mess up other people's experiences because they're all programmed to improvise around stuff that the guests do, including rape and murder and their inexplicable inability to kill them. Edit: I would also guess in high traffic areas they could just have a "back room" area of a coroners office with fast access to the repair area so a body could be collected in a way that doesn't break MY IMMERSION. Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Aug 2, 2017 |
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e: ^ yeah, I would avoid this thread after this until you finish. There are several major things that are very easy to get spoiled. Don't even google a character's name!nwiniwn posted:So, only on episode 3 right now, but I've got some questions regarding things I've seen and how it works in Westworld. In the original movie, there was a definite shutdown point in which all activity and immersion stopped, all the dead hosts were collected, fresh ones placed in, and damage was repaired. However, the park depicted in the show goes to much further lengths to ensure immersion, and there is not any definite shutdown or reset time. Also, it's explained that there are enough hosts in the park and all of their narratives adjust if certain hosts are out of commission, so the man in black won't really affect other people's experiences. SweetMercifulCrap! fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Aug 2, 2017 |
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Wizgot posted:https://medium.com/hbo-cinemax-pr/hbo-cinemax-programming-overview-dca4424c4c44 My bet is the same April timeframe Game of Thrones used to premier. Probably April 2018 for Westworld season 2, April 2019 for Game of Thrones season 8, and April 2020 for Westworld season 3, unless Westworld takes off more and they pre-planned the rest of the seasons.
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Doggles posted:Have you figured out how the guns work yet? Haha, I read the first few pages of this thread where it showed it was simunitions or something like that. Thanks for the tips on everything, guys. I'll come back to this thread once I catch up on the season.
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the best part about the first episode is anyone who's seen the movie thinks ed harris is the yul brenner robot so it's great when it;s revealed nope he's a visitor and our hero is just one of the robots.
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I do find it a bit implausible that there aren't multiple versions of Dolores or whoever around that they switch out for maintenance etc. I get it's for writing convenience that it happens but there's no way a park of this nature would end up depending on a single copy per host that doesn't have a redundancy backup in case poo poo bugs out.
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double nine posted:I do find it a bit implausible that there aren't multiple versions of Dolores or whoever around that they switch out for maintenance etc. I get it's for writing convenience that it happens but there's no way a park of this nature would end up depending on a single copy per host that doesn't have a redundancy backup in case poo poo bugs out. They sort of do, her dad got replaced when he bugged out and the replacement had the same narrative and lines being read back to her and whatnot.
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They don't need there to always be a Dolores though. Or any role. As they re-iterated many times, everything is designed to adjust around host roles that are missing and there are so many other hosts to interact with. Dolores is just one of 2,000-ish hosts (established in episode 1 or 2) that guests can interact with. For example if Teddy gets off the train and runs into Dolores without guest interference, they go off and do their thing. If a guest engages with Teddy and he doesn't run into Dolores, then she goes off and paints pictures on her own. The same thing would happen if Teddy was gone completely for repairs.
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The point being that Delores is a star attraction, something that punters (like the guy who owns the park) come back to enjoy. Do they have a queuing system? What happens if MiB is due to ride that attraction and the guy before him got a bit rough and killed her or decided to take her with them across the river? Tell the MiB to experience something else? There is no reason for them not to have multiple Delores models. One going on the big discovery journey, one in the town dropping her can, another finding her dad dead etc.
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it's like dark souls sometimes you gently caress up or miss part of an npc's questline and they're gone until your next game.
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Collateral posted:The point being that Delores is a star attraction, something that punters (like the guy who owns the park) come back to enjoy. Do they have a queuing system? What happens if MiB is due to ride that attraction and the guy before him got a bit rough and killed her or decided to take her with them across the river? Tell the MiB to experience something else? There is no reason for them not to have multiple Delores models. One going on the big discovery journey, one in the town dropping her can, another finding her dad dead etc. That's when the townfolk tell you she left with somebody, and you can now ride out and get into PVP to take her. I'd so love to see some dickhead kids that "camp Dolores" to ambush noobs
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wait, does that make the man in black Lautrec?
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that's the malfunctioning host that wipes out the bar.
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I figure the vast majority people aren't rich enough to absorb enough of WW to start playing favorites with specific hosts. Like Dolores is a prime target for that sort of thing since she's so close to the entrance but there's no indication that anyone but the richest repeat-est fan of the park seeks her out specifically. And I'd imagine people that do get like that would understand that there's really no way to mitigate or schedule time with a specific host without sort of ruining the entire system of the park.
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Collateral posted:The point being that Delores is a star attraction, something that punters (like the guy who owns the park) come back to enjoy. Do they have a queuing system? What happens if MiB is due to ride that attraction and the guy before him got a bit rough and killed her or decided to take her with them across the river? Tell the MiB to experience something else? There is no reason for them not to have multiple Delores models. One going on the big discovery journey, one in the town dropping her can, another finding her dad dead etc. MIB gets the synthmilk Delores whenever he wants, the rest of the guests have to queue up for v1 mechanical Delores in the back room.
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I'm betting the park is so expensive that most people only ever go once or twice in their lives. They just wouldn't know about whatever quests they are missing out on. Though it must suck if you get into the middle of something good and then some guy shows up and says "Time's up."
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