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eonwe posted:can someone point me toward a build that isnt particularly reliant on specific gear
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Aug 4, 2017 04:51
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I'm thinking of doing a pure lab farmer Pathfinder Crit BV for my leauge starter and following this guide: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1930275/page/1 Do you guys think this would be viable for a starter build or would it be too expensive?
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Aug 4, 2017 04:56
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Phil Tenderpuss posted:I'm thinking of doing a pure lab farmer Pathfinder Crit BV for my leauge starter and following this guide: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1930275/page/1 I dunno. The gear looks reasonable but colors will take some farming. Clear Mind will be a bit expensive at the start. Also you run into the issue of uniques not showing up for sale until a couple days in, which usually isn't a big deal but you need a fair few of them. Overall my answer would be it is fine but be prepared to farm maps for a bit to get the chromes needed for the colors.
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Aug 4, 2017 05:05
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Pathfinder relies on expensive flasks, and most of the unique flasks have been nerfed. Usually a league starter is a spec that can quickly farm dried lake to mid 70s and steamroll through most map mods to open up the atlas without spending a lot of currency rerolling dangerous mods, or without clearing the maps too slowly due to danger. Actual cheap builds: Sunder or EQ zerker, jugg, or slayer SRS or AW necro (AW works well as guardian too). Baron helm is good even without stacking strength, but gives you a fairly straightforward gearing endgame Necro spellcaster of some kind using bone offering Scorching ray inquisitor or berserker, possibly with CWC firestorm, Also good as trickster, but requires more gear. I never can get into bow builds so no suggestions here. The only suggestion I can give is to have either a barrage setup or chin sol puncture trap in a swap Arc or GC mine sabo is actually good if you can get a covenant. Breaking the unique rule here because nobody really uses this item. You do really want 1-2 detonate mines gems though (one for a totem, one for CWDT) Generally league starters avoid the following things, or transition into them: Energy shield as primary defense Anything that performs poorly when mostly stacking life and resists Specific uniques, even ones that settle to cheap prices, as high demand can make them hard to get early league Tabula reliance Non-cold conversion builds If your build doesn't work in a 4 link with 75 skill points while still wearing a goldrim and two alched coral or two stone rings, you probably shouldn't make it your first build unless you wanna live in dried lake doing the chaos recipe.
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Aug 4, 2017 05:16
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Uh, don't think people are going to be farming Dried Lake all that much starting tomorrow...
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Aug 4, 2017 05:20
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whypick1 posted:Uh, don't think people are going to be farming Dried Lake all that much starting tomorrow... But what if the build is really bad?
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Aug 4, 2017 05:21
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I hope mathil didn't gently caress up frost blades ranger for me
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Aug 4, 2017 05:21
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Also I think it bears repeating that you shouldn't level with your main skill socketed into a weapon unless you won't replace it, for instance some item like a lifesprig. If you're a 2h build, put it in your body armor.
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Aug 4, 2017 05:21
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AggressivelyStupid posted:I hope mathil didn't gently caress up frost blades ranger for me Touch of Anguish claws are going to be crazy expensive for a couple weeks. Frost Blades was popping up in 3.0 starter threads even before Mathil's video. I think it's still ok without the claw though! Just a little slower for clearing maps.
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Aug 4, 2017 05:32
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Hey all, looking for an re-invite to the guild, was removed for inactivity. I am online right now on Pitos.
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Aug 4, 2017 05:43
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theshim posted:Threw together a tree for an Oroflicker Slayer for 3.0 here. Anyone who's done the build before with feedback? PoB says I can hit a 98% ignite chance e: fixed it for 3.0 theshim fucked around with this message at 05:53 on Aug 4, 2017 |
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Aug 4, 2017 05:50
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Apito posted:Hey all, looking for an re-invite to the guild, was removed for inactivity. I am online right now on Pitos. got this and a couple others from discord
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Aug 4, 2017 06:00
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Cory in the Blouse posted:Pathfinder relies on expensive flasks, and most of the unique flasks have been nerfed. Usually a league starter is a spec that can quickly farm dried lake to mid 70s and steamroll through most map mods to open up the atlas without spending a lot of currency rerolling dangerous mods, or without clearing the maps too slowly due to danger. I was thinking of going Dual Wield Gladiator. Does that end up being expensive for a first character?
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Aug 4, 2017 06:06
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Unlucky7 posted:I was thinking of going Dual Wield Gladiator. Does that end up being expensive for a first character?
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Aug 4, 2017 06:24
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EDIT: Wow double posted
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Aug 4, 2017 06:24
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i cant decide if i want kraitlyn or points for rf zerking. im not sure i actually need the points and more shield charge speed is always good
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Aug 4, 2017 06:26
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I found a p good guide for a labfarming Earthquake Juggernaut hope u like it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxRVFTfmNw4
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Aug 4, 2017 06:29
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AggressivelyStupid posted:I hope mathil didn't gently caress up frost blades ranger for me There are so many variations on that theme that it's basically streamerproof. Touch of Anguish routinely gets shouted down as a bad item, Ewar's Mirage is a Shaper viable leveling item, etc. If you can't get a good claw try a sword, if you can't get a sword try an axe, mace, dagger, or even a staff. If you can't scale phys grab icebite and added cold. There are no rules here. dis astranagant fucked around with this message at 06:34 on Aug 4, 2017 |
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Aug 4, 2017 06:31
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Awesome! posted:i cant decide if i want kraitlyn or points for rf zerking. im not sure i actually need the points and more shield charge speed is always good Wouldn't you want 1% life regen for RF?
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Aug 4, 2017 06:38
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i dont think its really needed. there is already 11.5% on the tree.
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Aug 4, 2017 06:39
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https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1930909/page/1#p14659848
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Aug 4, 2017 06:41
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Unlucky7 posted:I was thinking of going Dual Wield Gladiator. Does that end up being expensive for a first character? It'll definitely take you to the end of the game and you'll be able to clear low to mid tier maps with mediocre gear, granted you've got around 200% life from the passive tree and 300%ish damage split between one handed and dual wield nodes. And make sure your resistances are capped. All easy things to do. You probably will need to buy 2 decent weapons for a chaos orb each when you hit maps and you'll be good to start the gear treadmill. Now if you wanna kill the endgame bosses... I can't comment on how expensive it is to gear up a physical gladiator for that (If you're even going phys damage). I've got 900 hours in this game and I've never even fought a guardian or shaper.
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Aug 4, 2017 06:41
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theshim posted:Realtalk, can anyone who's done Oroflicker before just give this a look and see if anything stands out as particularly bad? Thinking I'll start with this as a regular 2h slayer and switch in the Fireborn for when I get Oro's. If you really need dual curse just wear doedre's ring or windscream boots. Traveling up to the Witch area like that is not worth it IMO. This is how I would build it. I like Headsman better than Brutal Fervour because you'll clear faster, but take the leech and drop Unwavering Stance if you want, up to you. The other option is dropping Impact and using melee splash support. Not sure why you went into Templar and then skipped half of the good notables, but I fixed that. Also got you a lot more life and dex and just as much penetration and ignite chance by going to Ranger edit: Also note that you can do this build as Elemental Overload if you want, and it's a pretty nice damage buff but isn't quite as reliable due to misses. You would have to get some accuracy on gear and the tree, but Oro's does have that nice 30% accuracy implicit which helps. Mentat Radnor fucked around with this message at 06:56 on Aug 4, 2017 |
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Aug 4, 2017 06:48
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Anyone feel like critiquing my Blade Flurry Max block bleedsplosion Gladiator? Gonna try do it SSF, see how far I can get. Here's the PoB link: https://pastebin.com/nC7L5ADC Also, does using Brutality mean that I would get no extra damage at all from using Herald of Ash or Hatred? Your Brain on Hugs fucked around with this message at 06:50 on Aug 4, 2017 |
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Aug 4, 2017 06:48
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Your Brain on Hugs posted:Also, does using Brutality mean that I would get no extra damage at all from using Herald of Ash or Hatred? Yep, no damage from Atziri's Promise either. It's only useful if you're building around a Starforge, maybe some dual curse bleed builds can also pull it off but I haven't seen how much of a difference the ailment change makes.
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Aug 4, 2017 07:05
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Your Brain on Hugs posted:Anyone feel like critiquing my Blade Flurry Max block bleedsplosion Gladiator? Gonna try do it SSF, see how far I can get. Here's the PoB link: https://pastebin.com/nC7L5ADC HoA will still overkill burn, but you lose the 15% extra phys as fire
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Aug 4, 2017 07:21
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Unlucky7 posted:I was thinking of going Dual Wield Gladiator. Does that end up being expensive for a first character? Depends if you aim to max block or not, but you definitely will want some haemophilia gloves as they stack with the passive for a total of 15% life as phys explosion, which can be further scaled by physical damage gear/passives, the 10% at max frenzy charges node, vulnerability aura, and intimidate (if you go for that belt) There's nothing inherently bad about dual wielding, but it splits your damage budget between 2 items. If you are using a shield, about the worst you can do is a lioneye's. If you are going to be crit at all, you might want to instead look into a lycosidae
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Aug 4, 2017 07:27
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Mentat Radnor posted:If you really need dual curse just wear doedre's ring or windscream boots. Traveling up to the Witch area like that is not worth it IMO. This does give me a huge extra chunk of life, though, so it's probably better on that count alone. Around 10% less dps, but more chances to be alive to do it. I also feel like taking Impact is most of the reason to go Slayer with the build at all, saving the gem link is huge and Immolate looks like it'll be great in there for boss killing. Out of curiosity, how does Oroflicker fare in maps with enemies that resist status ailments?
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Aug 4, 2017 07:30
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Cory in the Blouse posted:There's nothing inherently bad about dual wielding, but it splits your damage budget between 2 items. If you are using a shield, about the worst you can do is a lioneye's. If you are going to be crit at all, you might want to instead look into a lycosidae Some skills like sunder only use your main hand weapon which frees up your offhand for a stat stick like tempestuous steel or prismatic eclipse. Dual wielding gives you 10% more aspd, 15% block, and 20% more attack physical damage. Additionally you can game the system by using an offhand stat stick that can't be used with your attack skill, like a sword for dual wield EQ. It won't be used then, so you gain the dw bonuses while only having to buy one weapon.
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Aug 4, 2017 07:45
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Patching info and torrent for the ggpk file
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Aug 4, 2017 07:46
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I would like to be in as Spiniard if there's still room in the guild.
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Aug 4, 2017 07:54
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theshim posted:I was actually looking at doing it as EO, which is most of the reason I'm pathed up to the Templar/Witch area (and while I was already there it was simple to nab the curse nodes along with the fire and life), but accuracy suuuuucks to gear and spec for, and I didn't really reset the tree for the other way.. If I'm not bothering with it, it's probably not worth going up there. It's not too hard to get enough accuracy to make EO worth it. I ran the EO Berserker version of the build in Breach league up to 91 and it felt good. You already get 40% accuracy from Duelist nodes that you take anyway, and you can get another 30% for 2 points in Templar that also come with attack speed. Combined with the Oro's implicit that's +100% accuracy, so you really just need a couple decent flat accuracy rolls on jewelry/gloves/helm to make it work. Passive tree could look something like this. theshim posted:Out of curiosity, how does Oroflicker fare in maps with enemies that resist status ailments? Not Well (unless you're a Raider, maybe).
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Aug 4, 2017 08:19
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please knock Mom! posted:Some skills like sunder only use your main hand weapon which frees up your offhand for a stat stick like tempestuous steel or prismatic eclipse. Dual wielding gives you 10% more aspd, 15% block, and 20% more attack physical damage. Forgive me if this sounds rude, but using a skill that only uses the main hand while DW sounds non optimal at best. Then again, so are a lot of things that are fun  . My question is: does the benefits of DW outweigh what a good 2H weapon could do with those types of skills?
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Aug 4, 2017 08:35
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Impermanent posted:I would like to be in as Spiniard if there's still room in the guild. Sent!
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Aug 4, 2017 08:38
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Unlucky7 posted:Forgive me if this sounds rude, but using a skill that only uses the main hand while DW sounds non optimal at best. Then again, so are a lot of things that are fun It's not just about the DW bonuses the other benefits are a) utilizing global stats on the weapon you are not swinging (these can be very good as in the examples given) and b) only having to invest in a good roll on one weapon.
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Aug 4, 2017 08:42
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quote:Skills calculate their Ignite, Poison or Bleed values as a separate damage value, taken straight from the base and added damage of the skill. This gives skills that deal fire damage a minimum and maximum Ignite Damage per Second value that is rolled on Ignites that the skill causes. Poison, Bleed and Ignite damage values are based on the base damage of the skill, and then affected by appropriate damage modifiers. Some damage modifiers affect both the hit and the Ignite, Poison or Bleed, while some only affect one. Am I reading this right, that GMP won't affect dot damage since it's "less projectile damage"?
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Aug 4, 2017 08:42
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Unlucky7 posted:Forgive me if this sounds rude, but using a skill that only uses the main hand while DW sounds non optimal at best. Then again, so are a lot of things that are fun Look at the items that knock pointed out. Another good example is Brightbeak. All three provide global bonuses, on top of the DW bonuses, and let you use every attack movement skill besides Shield Charge. If attack speed is important, you're going to have to try really really hard for 2H to beat DW. gonadic io posted:Am I reading this right, that GMP won't affect dot damage since it's "less projectile damage"? Correct, but I thought they were going to fix that because in beta you could very easily poo poo out poison that way with no damage penalty. whypick1 fucked around with this message at 08:46 on Aug 4, 2017 |
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Aug 4, 2017 08:43
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Unlucky7 posted:Forgive me if this sounds rude, but using a skill that only uses the main hand while DW sounds non optimal at best. Then again, so are a lot of things that are fun It's much easier to get block with dw than with 2h due to the base 15% and the dual wield aspect node near ranger's part of the tree. Additionally, there's some dw specific nodes which are good for some builds, and you have the opportunity to go for something like a varunastra as well. Overall dw is in between 1h/shield and 2h, with some bonuses to attack speed which make leap slam feel better. Using one of the two weapons is good as well since you can use one really good weapon and a buffing item. Alternately you can use a shield, but if you are a gladiator or just want some more offense, dw is potent
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Aug 4, 2017 09:04
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gonadic io posted:Am I reading this right, that GMP won't affect dot damage since it's "less projectile damage"?
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Aug 4, 2017 09:29
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Can I get a guild invite for YozMortem?
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