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ArfJason posted:I know dusty diamond and both panic puppets are the usual suspects when talking 3d blast gen but tell me this isnt great stuff  Also 3D Blast has some top tier zone names. Diamond Dust, 
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I'm that guy who defends Sonic CD and the Game Gear games and Chaotix and Sonic R but even I have a hard time having fun playing 3D Blast I remember when I was a little kid, my parents were gone and a babysitter came over. I was showing her Sonic 3 & Knuckles and telling her how amazing it was and she was like "Well that's all well and good, but I've played that and I wanna see that NEW Sonic game for the Sega Saturn!" In that instant my tiny little soul was crushed, I sighed and was like "Well... okay I guess." and I reluctantly powered on the Saturn. "Are you sure you don't want to play NiGHTS instead?"
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Aug 7, 2017 21:57
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ArfJason posted:I know dusty diamond and both panic puppets are the usual suspects when talking 3d blast gen but tell me this isnt great stuff The genesis and Saturn soundtrack both have some pretty good songs. But then this exists.
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Aug 7, 2017 22:03
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Listen, I love me some Sonic R and 3D Blast (Mega Drive/the Good version), but Chaotix is just dire. It might actually be worse than Sonic 4. Sonic 4 is horribly designed, but I'm not sure Chaotix HAS any level design.
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Aug 7, 2017 22:03
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In all seriousness, I do think we're overdue for a collection of some of the handheld games. Say what you will about the DIMPS titles but they were fairly significant releases and aside from the Rush titles, a lot of them aren't available to play on modern portable hardware. A compilation release of Sonic Advance 1, Advance 2, Advance 3, both Rush titles, and Sonic Pocket Adventure would be great.
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Aug 7, 2017 22:10
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Does anyone remember that Sonic Fan game that linked in this thread months ago, the one that had time travel mechanics kinda like Sonic CD but was kinda different?
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Aug 7, 2017 22:11
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Stink Terios posted:Listen, I love me some Sonic R and 3D Blast (Mega Drive/the Good version), but Chaotix is just dire. It might actually be worse than Sonic 4. Yeah... Chaotix like... kind of doesn't. All the levels are vertical and the most challenging part of the game is actually navigating the mazes they call levels. Otherwise the game is just absurdly easy and meh. And the levels are so repetitive. There's 5 acts each. And they're randomized because the devs knew if you did 5 in a row you would go insane. However at least Chaotix has good music and graphics even though the gameplay sucks, which is more than I can say about Sonic 4. It's not frustrating either. Chaotix has a whopping zero bottomless pits (and Sonic CD only has one.) It has no lives system at all either, so it's almost ahead of it's time! It also feels woefully unfinished and just kind of ends. I think it boils down to if you're willing to stomach the boredom of Chaotix or getting kicked in the balls with steel-toed boots which is Sonic 4. I'll take the really shallow, boring game in that case TFRazorsaw posted:A compilation release of Sonic Advance 1, Fixed that for you
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Aug 7, 2017 22:13
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That already came out though. and every single one of those games you edited in is available on 3DS virtual console.
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Aug 7, 2017 22:13
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Kurieg posted:The genesis and Saturn soundtrack both have some pretty good songs. Christ, how have I never looked up he Saturn soundtrack before, that is dire. And what's with the Santa's-Workshop-rear end Diamond Dust, yeesh.
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Aug 7, 2017 22:15
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Here's the good stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxP0n7h_914
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Aug 7, 2017 22:18
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Gammatron 64 posted:It also feels woefully unfinished and just kind of ends. Eh, I'm of the "bad is worse than boring" school of thought. But at least the beast parts of Chaotix (the music) can be experienced without actually playing the game. I don't think Sonic 4 has any parts that can be qualified as "good". e: Evil Eagle posted:Here's the good stuff This is my jam.
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Aug 7, 2017 22:21
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Chaotix is surprisingly fun with another experienced Sonic player. I did a run last week and had an enjoyable time.
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Aug 7, 2017 22:23
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Stink Terios posted:Eh, I'm of the "bad is worse than boring" school of thought. But at least the beast parts of Chaotix (the music) can be experienced without actually playing the game. I don't think Sonic 4 has any parts that can be qualified as "good". i havent ever played sonic 4 but ive always liked mad gear's music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meJMtuujb5A also this guy made a remix of the really bluuuuh act 2 song and i think its incredibly sweet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARaQgVrEY9I
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Aug 7, 2017 22:23
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Pigbuster posted:Christ, how have I never looked up he Saturn soundtrack before, that is dire. And what's with the Santa's-Workshop-rear end Diamond Dust, yeesh. Gene Gadget Rusty Ruin and Volcano Valley are okay. But Panic Puppet is a far cry from the Genesis version, and is only notable because for some reason it was remixed into the boss music for Sonic Chronicles. (Like, as actual music, not a lovely low-fi midi).
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Aug 7, 2017 22:24
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Stink Terios posted:Eh, I'm of the "bad is worse than boring" school of thought. But at least the beast parts of Chaotix (the music) can be experienced without actually playing the game. I don't think Sonic 4 has any parts that can be qualified as "good". 
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Aug 7, 2017 22:26
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ive never given the saturn 3d blast soundtrack a full listen but from what i remember it wasnt nearly as catchy as the genesis one but for a long time i saw nothing but praise for it, to the point where i still believe its the fan favourite.
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Aug 7, 2017 22:26
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ArfJason posted:i havent ever played sonic 4 but ive always liked mad gear's music Actually, I take it back. Given competent remixes, Sonic 4's music is actually very good. Bettter than anything on Forces that's for sure.
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Aug 7, 2017 22:28
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ArfJason posted:ive never given the saturn 3d blast soundtrack a full listen but from what i remember it wasnt nearly as catchy as the genesis one but for a long time i saw nothing but praise for it, to the point where i still believe its the fan favourite. Well, it did have the same composer as Sonic R(seriously, listen to the Gene Gadget link from before). And people love that soundtrack too.
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Aug 7, 2017 22:28
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Stink Terios posted:Actually, I take it back. Given competent remixes, Sonic 4's music is actually very good. its a shame that to truly sound good the 4 soundtrack needs to be reinterpreted a LOT. But I'm glad it existed because at least it gave us that really cool mad gear act 2 genesis mix
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Aug 7, 2017 22:29
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I don't think Sonic's 4 music was inherently bad, but most of them required a bit more polish. The melodies were pretty alright, but the only way I can put it is that the sounds needed to be a bit 'cleaner'. That said, I will fight anybody that says Lost Labyrinth's Act 2 music is bad. That song is the single best part of Sonic 4 Ep.1
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Aug 7, 2017 22:32
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Kurieg posted:Well, it did have the same composer as Sonic R(seriously, listen to the Gene Gadget link from before). And people love that soundtrack too. richard jacques owns, imo. and that gene gadget song is pretty cool, but i have a hard time finding a catchy melodic hook to remember it. Volcano VAlley 2 even more so. No idea what the gently caress he was going for with spring yard, but I like the instrumentation.
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Aug 7, 2017 22:32
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Man I was thinking, like, maybe Tee Lopes couldn't do 16-bit music and maybe it's silly to wish for him to just redo the sound track. This has probably been posted before but never mind, this is even better than the normal track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4z-JhQmoFWQ I seriously don't remember this being special or unique in any way. Or was there another polar bear later on in the game? I think I fell asleep during the sky chase remake poo poo.
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Rorac posted:I don't think Sonic's 4 music was inherently bad, but most of them required a bit more polish. The melodies were pretty alright, but the only way I can put it is that the sounds needed to be a bit 'cleaner'. my gripe with the sonic 4 compositions is that they are REALLY short, like, mad gear 1 loops at around 40 seconds. then again, hydrocity 2 doesnt even come close to one minute, but at least its a much more complex composition
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Ventana posted:Does anyone remember that Sonic Fan game that linked in this thread months ago, the one that had time travel mechanics kinda like Sonic CD but was kinda different? Sonic Time Twisted by Overbound. You go to the past to get time stones, the future to get chaos emeralds. It's really good, flows extremely well, fun gimmicks, good boss fights. The cut scenes and the true ending are pretty lol though.
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Spiderdrake posted:I think I fell asleep during the sky chase remake poo poo. Oh, you didn't play Sky Fortress Act 2? It's the highlight of Sonic 4 as a whole, and possibly even Good.
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pathetic little tramp posted:Sonic Time Twisted by Overbound. You go to the past to get time stones, the future to get chaos emeralds. It's really good, flows extremely well, fun gimmicks, good boss fights. The cut scenes and the true ending are pretty lol though. Alright, I think this was it, thanks a bunch! If anyone knows or remembers other fan games worth checking out, shout them out and I'll check them out. Gonna check out Before/After the Sequel but kinda fell out of other fan games for a while.
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Aug 7, 2017 22:40
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the saturn soundtrack kicks loving rear end especially panic puppet
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Aug 7, 2017 22:42
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pathetic little tramp posted:Sonic Time Twisted by Overbound. You go to the past to get time stones, the future to get chaos emeralds. It's really good, flows extremely well, fun gimmicks, good boss fights. The cut scenes and the true ending are pretty lol though. Music kicks rear end too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gD9LDjUZzE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIELWnGJOvo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTqcx3Y7beM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veA8GgDC6Sc
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Aug 7, 2017 22:43
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Spiderdrake posted:I seriously don't remember this being special or unique in any way. Or was there another polar bear later on in the game? I think I fell asleep during the sky chase remake poo poo. It's special because it's a polar bear. I love polar bears. And it's just a really solid, good design.
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Aug 7, 2017 22:44
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Sonic Robo Blast 2 is awesome. 3D sonic with tons of fun exploration but you can go fast if you want too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10bOimSFYC4
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Aug 7, 2017 22:45
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from my dark dark times in the Sonic Fan Games HeadQuarter, I remember playing (and making) some really lovely rear end sonic fangames that didnt even have loops. I remember one that had a super serious "Eggman Kills Tails" intro played super straight and dramatic and to this day I still lol about it the way I did when I first saw it
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Evil Eagle posted:Sonic Robo Blast 2 is awesome. 3D sonic with tons of fun exploration but you can go fast if you want too. on the topic of my dark days of sonic fangaming!
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ArfJason posted:richard jacques owns, imo. and that gene gadget song is pretty cool, but i have a hard time finding a catchy melodic hook to remember it. Volcano VAlley 2 even more so. No idea what the gently caress he was going for with spring yard, but I like the instrumentation. I love how Spring Yard uses a duck call but man, I think circus music is one of the most dangerous kinds of video game music. You need to treat it lightly or else you're going to get something way too overbearing and that song... did not treat it lightly. It's especially notable here because 3D Blast's levels are looooong. Pigbuster fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Aug 7, 2017 |
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so Snowy up there got my mind going. Favorite badnik designs? Favorite badnik designs. Here's mine by every game: Sonic 1 - Motobug  Sonic 2 - Grounder  Sonic 3 - Penguinator  Sonic & Knuckles - Sandworm (as reimagined by Sonic Colors)  Sonic CD - Sasori  Knuckles Chaotix - Dribbler  Sonic Adventure 1/2 - Leon  Sonic Heroes - E-2000  Shadow the Hedgehog - Egg Pierrot  Sonic Unleashed - Egg Launcher  Sonic Colors - Mole  Honorable Mention: Steelion (Sonic 4 Episode 2), because I also love sea lions and because his name is pretty good: 
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Look at all those Eggman's robots!
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of course its penguinator for 3. i mean what else would anyone choose just look at him
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ArfJason posted:of course its penguinator for 3. It was a hard choice between him and Rhino Tank.
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Bloody Pom posted:Music kicks rear end too. When this became Scrap Brain Master System version I CLAPPED! . Speaking of SRB2, you guys should check out SUGOI and its sequel SUBARASHII. They're massive collabs with a ton of levels and creative nonsense using impressive technology, as well as being pretty much the only things that use slopes, since those were recent additions. They have very, very silly plotlines too. http://mb.srb2.org/showthread.php?t=41903 http://mb.srb2.org/showthread.php?t=42837
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ive always liked these guys from 2 relaxed looking turtles is of my favourite things comedy option: the chickens in turrets during wing fortress edit: wait these are worthless without the lil guys on top 
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