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20XX is a super good game and I'm really excited what the final product looked like! I stopped playing right when the danger rooms all got a lot more complicated and harder and I thought that was a cool change, although the game is a lot more of a challenge now haha
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i dont even think ive ever heard a protomen song so i dont care either way. i was just expecting a police report or something.
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PureRok posted:Got the Rogue itch after firing up ToME again, and I was wondering if there are any good DnD/Forgotten Realms based roguelike out there? I've got a post floating around somewhere here about how cool and fun Incursion is, even if I can't figure out an easy way to take things out of chests
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Aug 18, 2017 06:46
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DisDisDis posted:I've got a post floating around somewhere here about how cool and fun Incursion is, even if I can't figure out an easy way to take things out of chests
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Aug 18, 2017 07:20
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madjackmcmad posted:Isn't "floating around somewhere here" an actual inventory slot in Incursion, used to toss items from hand to hand, or swapping them out of your backpack? Yeah I think it might literally be "in air," implying that your character is some sort of insane itinerant juggler who doesn't understand how to just pick things up and put them directly in containers
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Aug 18, 2017 09:25
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Right, to do anything with items in the inventory you select something, which moves it into the "in the air" slot, then put it where you want it to go. So backpack -> air -> equipment slot, or container -> air -> backpack. It's not often an issue, but if you need to do something like move all your equipment into a different backpack, it can take a long time because of the number of key presses involved. I've run into a few bugs here and there, and the early game can be pretty rough depending on your build (a wizard with minor drain or a ranger with a bow and stealth skills are probably the safest starts), but it's a lot of fun once you get going.
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Aug 18, 2017 12:47
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madjackmcmad posted:Isn't "floating around somewhere here" an actual inventory slot in Incursion, used to toss items from hand to hand, or swapping them out of your backpack? that's amazing
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Aug 18, 2017 12:58
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I think Larn had an 'up in the air' slot too. Was it Larn? It might have been Omega. One of that era. Edit: I checked. It was Omega. Also, more belts than a Tetsuya Nomura character. I'm not sure if those are for actual belts or items on your belt, actually. 
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Aug 18, 2017 13:56
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Right, it's Omega. I haven't played it, but Incursion refers to it on the title screen. Those slots are probably for items on your belt, not actual belts. Incursion has both: 
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Aug 18, 2017 14:20
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The Brigadevs do not have by any means the time or ability to save Makeup and Vanity Set from their gross sex offender label, in all likelihood. I fear to distract them with this knowledge.
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Aug 18, 2017 15:46
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vorebane posted:The Brigadevs do not have by any means the time or ability to save Makeup and Vanity Set from their gross sex offender label, in all likelihood. I fear to distract them with this knowledge. Why do we need to know about this
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Aug 18, 2017 15:52
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Prism posted:I think Larn had an 'up in the air' slot too. Was it Larn? It might have been Omega. One of that era. The important thing to note about this screenshot is that the red-and-white-striped buckets contain Kentucky Fried Lizard Parts.
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Aug 18, 2017 15:52
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:The important thing to note about this screenshot is that the red-and-white-striped buckets contain Kentucky Fried Lizard Parts. I hope it's actually Kentucki Fried Lizzard Partes, for the reference.
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Aug 18, 2017 15:55
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Prism posted:I hope it's actually Kentucki Fried Lizzard Partes, for the reference. I remember it being misspelled, but it's been so long since I played Omega that I can't remember exactly how it's misspelled. But yes, it's clearly a reference to the Amber books.
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Hell, I'd eat them. I'm not so sure about the Sizzling Weasel on a Stick™ from Crossfire.
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Quidthulhu posted:20XX is a super good game and I'm really excited what the final product looked like! I stopped playing right when the danger rooms all got a lot more complicated and harder and I thought that was a cool change, although the game is a lot more of a challenge now haha
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I love that they put scare quotes: 'In the Air.' It's so pretentious.
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The Incursion/Omega inventory system is so close to being a really cool simulationist thing that I could unreservedly love. I think if it just, kept the size rule for what can go in your pack and shoulder/belt etc. options for storage but you could put things in those slots the way normal games do it in half the keypresses it would be great. And the unequipped items would swap to your pack if they were the right size or drop to the ground if not. The air thing is such a pain (you should still play Incursion though) In other news I finally got TOME 2.35's "ASCII" working properly (though my player turns into a 6 occasionally now) and I'm gonna be hopefully getting further into that in the near future.
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DisDisDis posted:In other news I finally got TOME 2.35's "ASCII" working properly (though my player turns into a 6 occasionally now) and I'm gonna be hopefully getting further into that in the near future. ISTR there's an option that displays your character's health as a number, so you turn into a 6 if you're at 60% of max HP. Could be wrong, but look through the options.
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you could also play tome 2.3.5 on Angband.live™, the internet's premiere place to play angbands, live. although i cant remember if tome is one of the one's where subwindows dont work properly.
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Aug 19, 2017 00:40
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Kobold Sex Tape posted:you could also play tome 2.3.5 on Angband.live™, the internet's premiere place to play angbands, live.
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Aug 19, 2017 02:16
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Kobold Sex Tape posted:you could also play tome 2.3.5 on Angband.live™, the internet's premiere place to play angbands, live. I'm a giant rear end in a top hat that doesn't look at subwindows. Dunno why but I just massively prefer having something running from my desktop, even when I have internet access all the time.
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I think the best option for making an inventory that works that way is to have a section of the window show the items you're standing over. Then if you unequip something and can't carry it, it goes to the floor, but you can still interact with it because it's still on the screen. Cataclysm's advanced(?) inventory window is staggeringly unintuitive but lets you do this stuff easily once you figure it out.
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Axu continuing to bring the goods among the usual gains with the latest update: https://cynapse077.itch.io/axu-rl quote:There are now some new story quests with the Ensis, Kin of the Deep, and Xul for you all to do. I've also added several new mutations, traits, and Vampirism! Vampirism is a pretty fun disease to catch. One large change in 0.5.3 is with enemies. They used to randomly use skills available to them, regardless of any cooldowns. This seemed unfair, as the player has to wait to use abilities.
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The best inventories are suitcase inventories a-la RE4 or Might and Magic VI-VIII.
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Kobold Sex Tape posted:you could also play tome 2.3.5 on Angband.live™, the internet's premiere place to play angbands, live. Tome's subwindows are really bad anyways, so not being able to use them would be no great loss. The visible-item-list and visible-monster-list subwindows are probably the two most useful/important ones, but Tome2 doesn't even have the former, and the latter is ordered really terribly by distance or something instead of by level, so it's difficult to use it to figure out who the scary ones are in a screenful of detected baddies. Monster recall is still a moderately useful window , and inventory/equipment/message displays are kind of convenient but not all that important.
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Who wants to share in the loss of my best DCSS character/run? Needed more rF. Orbs of Fire don't gently caress around. An escape plan in general would've helped too.
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I'm surprised you even made it that far with no cold. The draconians can be pretty brutal without good elemental resists. But yeah, I'd never do Zot 5 without at least 2 pips fire. 3 makes the Orbs mostly trivial even if your damage is low.
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spider wisdom posted:Who wants to share in the loss of my best DCSS character/run? Here are some tips for next time: 22 Stealth is way too much for anyone who's not a dedicated stabber. It's nice to have +++ or so Stealth just so you have a bit of flexibility in picking engagements, but as a Be not using Short Blades, you shouldn't be grabbing any more. Conversely, you absolutely SHOULD be training Dodging - especially if you're going to be wearing only chain mail while you have 32 strength. Even at -2 aptitude you should have at least double digit Dodging by Zot. Some Evocations would probably have also been a good idea, so you could try to burst the Death Cob at range before it slows you down. (You probably also could have made good use of that +Inv on your Battleaxe.) As far as tactical concerns, you shouldn't die in those situations with a blink scroll or with Phial of Floods up - they both could have potentially saved your bacon. I don't know how much of a problem that a.lich was, but remember ?Silence stops them cold. Axe cleaving is fun but don't let it trick in to thinking seven things at once is a good idea.
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you can do anything with high enough AC, resists be damned just gotta be real careful
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This is not a case of skipping forward greatly in time. What it is, though, is Infra Arcana getting ANOTHER substantial update to v19.1! https://sites.google.com/site/infraarcana/home Spells, interface, Ghouls boosted---this is decently loaded indeed even compared to the big v19.0 just a short while back~
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ExiledTinkerer posted:This is not a case of skipping forward greatly in time. How the hell have I never tried this before? It's rad as hell. gently caress flocks of ravens though. Cultists with tommy guns on the first floor can likewise eat poo poo.
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Thank you to everyone who's been talking about 20XX. Just started checking it out and it's real good. Best megaman-esque  game I've played in a while.
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Eela6 posted:Thank you to everyone who's been talking about 20XX. Just started checking it out and it's real good. Best megaman-esque I am just going to express my lack of satisfaction with the controllerless interface functionality.
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Samizdata posted:I am just going to express my lack of satisfaction with the controllerless interface functionality. I can't imagine trying to play a modern platformer without a controller. I mean, I get that people do it, but the controller-using experience is almost always vastly better.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:I can't imagine trying to play a modern platformer without a controller. I mean, I get that people do it, but the controller-using experience is almost always vastly better. Yeah, but I have crappy luck picking out controllers. My favorite controller that always worked brilliantly is not supported under Windows 10. I don't play enough platformer games to really justifying another one.
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Samizdata posted:Yeah, but I have crappy luck picking out controllers. My favorite controller that always worked brilliantly is not supported under Windows 10. I don't play enough platformer games to really justifying another one. I've been pretty happy with the Logitech F710 -- it's not supported under win10 as such, but if you tell the OS it's actually an xbox one controller it'll work fine -- but I really wish they made a wired version.
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I will say I wish that there were modern controllers with four shoulder buttons, instead of two shoulder buttons and two technically-analog trigger buttons. Practically nobody makes use of the analog triggers in any meaningful way, so they just become an extra two set of shoulder buttons, except with more resistance. Also, those crappy circle-based D-pads are awful. The PS2 controller was the ideal for me in terms of ergonomics.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:I will say I wish that there were modern controllers with four shoulder buttons, instead of two shoulder buttons and two technically-analog trigger buttons. Practically nobody makes use of the analog triggers in any meaningful way, so they just become an extra two set of shoulder buttons, except with more resistance. A Wii U Pro Controller with the Mayflash adapter that makes it appear as an XBox controller is what you want my friend. The "triggers" are just digital buttons and it has a real D-pad. It's my favorite controller available for the PC right now.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:I will say I wish that there were modern controllers with four shoulder buttons, instead of two shoulder buttons and two technically-analog trigger buttons. Practically nobody makes use of the analog triggers in any meaningful way, so they just become an extra two set of shoulder buttons, except with more resistance. There are dual shock 2 to usb adaptors, you can still use a PS2 controller for many of your gaming needs.
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