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At this point it's worth mentioning that this game had a co-op multiplayer mode that covers stuff in between missions. Sadly I never got to play more than the first one which takes place in the same ninja village so I don't know what they cover. Oh, update on other page.
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Is preventing the alarm in the final courtyard optional? If so, does it change anything about the cutscene?
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Aug 19, 2017 12:05
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The cat's eye thing is supposed to be telling the time based on pupil shape, caused by dilation depending on ambient light outdoors. Obviously this is already approximate as gently caress under best conditions, and falls apart pretty quickly with weather, cover, artificial light, catmood, etc.
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Aug 19, 2017 12:12
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Nuramor posted:Is preventing the alarm in the final courtyard optional? If so, does it change anything about the cutscene? If I remember right, the alarm going off causes a mission failure. But I could be wrong! If it's not I doubt it changes the cutscene.
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Aug 19, 2017 12:25
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Yeah the cat clock thing is a thing in japan myths or something: 
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Aug 19, 2017 12:37
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I know there's a multiplayer co-op campaign that has some in-between missions, and right after this mission is where one of them would take place. I can't quite figure out how to get a local LAN hosted server working so I can record that. So that might not be happening. I'm looking around and seeing plenty of info on how to make multiplayer work but haven't found this particular problem.
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Aug 19, 2017 13:57
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I'm not sure Isako is particularly evil. She's just forced to do a job for a lovely boss. Also I don't think her body count is anywhere near Cate's. 
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Aug 19, 2017 16:01
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Iretep posted:Yeah the cat clock thing is a thing in japan myths or something: My god, they're years ahead of us.
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Aug 19, 2017 20:27
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dscruffy1 posted:Mmmmmmaybe? I'd never considered it but it is a game that exists. If I can do something good for it I'll absolutely go with it but I haven't played it so who knows??? I'll be busy with something else around that time but I'll see what comes to me. I remember it being a fun but very goofy tron game. Basically consider a tongue in cheek disney movie in video game form. Like in the movie, a human gets maguffined into being a computer program and it turns out all computer programs have full personalities. The social place to hang out after work is the Progress Bar. The (antagonistic-ish) head of the security forces is called ... the Kernel. etc. etc. etc. Like NOLF, it's got its tongue embedded firmly in cheek.
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Aug 19, 2017 21:14
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Something I should mention, for anyone interested in playing these games themselves. Obviously they're in rights hell and no one wants to make any money apparently so they're drat near impossible to find. I won't toss up any direct links but there's a project called NOLF Revival. The games are available for download and they're fully patched to work on modern systems, from what I've seen. I have physical copies of the games so I haven't touched it, but if you're looking to play then maybe that's your jam.
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Aug 19, 2017 21:25
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The coop for NOLF2 is really nice. The first level is a bit annoying because it's essentially an escort quest, but other than that it's a short bit of fun.
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Aug 19, 2017 21:31
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double nine posted:I remember it being a fun but very goofy tron game. Basically consider a tongue in cheek disney movie in video game form. You would lose your headers if they weren't compiled in! Computer in-jokes that were relevant then and would be mostly relevant in ten years, at least. Plus good look at some deep questions from the movie, but from the other side.
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Aug 19, 2017 21:38
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Isako's honor makes her my favorite video game kunoichi (sorry Kunoichi from Samurai Warriors, you're number two). Much more fun with her is ahead.
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Aug 19, 2017 23:32
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Having watched 4/5s of the first game's lp today, I can see what you mean about the humor being different. The writing in NOLF is very good, but I think the humor they're going for in this game is more "accessible." The incongruity of deadly assassins and gossip is humorous superficially if nothing else.
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I'm looking forward to seeing you play this. I was in on the ground floor when it first came out, but after one too-short playthrough it didn't grab me as firmly as the original game. It has some great setpieces, though.Xander77 posted:Is it possible to do non-lethal stealth in this game? You have ways to knock guards out, but they'll always get back up sooner or later. Even if you kill them, they'll be replaced. The enemy spawn rate in some zones is silly, even without an alarm.
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Aug 20, 2017 04:41
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One of the upcoming levels is particularly bad with perpetually-spawning guards, to the point where it's easier to just run and gun rather than waste time stealthily taking everyone out.
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It's much more fun to stealth though, especially if you raise the difficulty to make enemies a little tougher to just gun down.
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Aug 20, 2017 16:24
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Atomikus posted:One of the upcoming levels is particularly bad with perpetually-spawning guards, to the point where it's easier to just run and gun rather than waste time stealthily taking everyone out. This is why I said the game encourages avoiding enemies rather than killing them. It is a bit ham-handed about the respawning enemies, but the intention is to encourage stealth by avoidance instead of just killing everyone.
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dscruffy1 posted:Mmmmmmaybe? I'd never considered it but it is a game that exists. Tron 2.0 is a remarkable story with great characters and a surprisingly deep system design, bogged down by FPS platforming, enemy AI that can bullseye you from across the map before you see them, and progression indicators that were far too typical for the time. Hard to believe there was a point when Tron was underappreciated nostalgia that seemed stuck in the Disney vaults forever, and Monolith wasn't owned by Warner Bros. Slave Labor Graphics released some Tron 2.0 comic books that continued the story a bit further, and if you ignore the non-appearance of some key characters, Tron: Legacy *could* still include the 2.0 story as canon. But Tron 2.0 came out the year after NOLF 2 and uses the same tech with a few extra features NOLF2 didn't have. That's about as much as they have in common.
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So was I the only one who, when playing this game for the first time, completely missed the upgrade system?
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Kibayasu posted:So was I the only one who, when playing this game for the first time, completely missed the upgrade system?
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Score maybe? Also that sounds incredible painful, even on easy.
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Aug 20, 2017 20:24
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Where did the whole sword in an umbrella thing come from?
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Samovar posted:Where did the whole sword in an umbrella thing come from? Umbrellas like that are a weapon of choice for Japanese characters for some reason, and the sword is just a variation on the swordcane. 
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Aug 20, 2017 23:20
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I mean one of the gimmicks of ninjas is supposed to be hiding weapons in plain sight, and parasol/umbrellas were something any woman might carry, so they are perfect platforms for disguising swords.
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Aug 20, 2017 23:49
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Xander77 posted:Did you never wonder what the skill points are for? I don't remember, it was way back when the game first came out. Not sure if I went the whole game without figuring it out but I do remember it being quite some time.
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marshmallow creep posted:I mean one of the gimmicks of ninjas is supposed to be hiding weapons in plain sight, and parasol/umbrellas were something any woman might carry, so they are perfect platforms for disguising swords. They make for decent firearms and blowguns as well in the right hands. The Penguin (from the Batman franchise) seemed to have an entire drat arsenal jammed inside his.
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Aug 21, 2017 02:52
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Who's the VA for Isako? She sounds like Lauren Bailey at times, to me
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Aug 21, 2017 03:47
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IMDb says it's Jen Taylor, who also voices Cate, as well as a few other voices.
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Aug 21, 2017 04:00
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I'm probably gonna be getting real stupid busy with theater stuff in the next week. Luckily I have a small backlog. Unfortunately it's real small. Anyway! Project: Omega Scene 1/Polsy
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I like that the first part of the plan is preparing your escape route. But enough things go wrong along the way to keep it interesting.
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I'd be more concerned that not only did she sweep the corpses' mouths to find the cough drops, she then tested them to find out what flavor they were.
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I played this game three times. Once got stuck on first mission, second time a bit later, third time I finished it. As it was translated version, I missed a lot. And forgot a lot of it, too. Very interesting to see references to first game, whose LP I just finished watching. I do remember that I prioritized upgrading Search, for more you find, more Points you get for more upgrades! Oh, and Soviet Official Memos have transliterated english instead of russian in headers. Third of the words are almost the same, mind. People appear to need somewhat more killing compared to the first game. Foil is used in wrapping some candies and chocolate bars. That soldier may had sweet tooth. Ah, radio tower. The drum at middle height is long-range microwave relay antenna, perfect for this situation. The three... vertical flat things on stand-offs around the tower body, at the same level as the relay drum? They look exactly like modern 2G cell tower antennas. Haven't seen what's on the top of the antenna, so no comments.
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I don't think you're going to get to cap Georgi Konstantinovitch Zhukov, double hero of the soviet union. Though he also wouldn't have been in favor in the late 60s.
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You know, for all the hype the CT180 gets in the first game, it actually delivers in this one. Exfiltration and Infiltration tool! Good on the UNITY squints for making it work properly.
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Goddamn, I like wine as much as the next man, but the Sensei's glass is as big as his head! Edit: OK, this game didn't start it, and neither was it the last game to do it, but am I the only person who gets really irritated in FPS' when your character chambers a round the instant they take out a gun? I remember having my mind blown in the first Halo when you reloaded the sniper rifle before you emptied a clip and M.C. didn't pull back the slide. Samovar fucked around with this message at 08:11 on Aug 22, 2017 |
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Aug 22, 2017 07:55
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Samovar posted:Goddamn, I like wine as much as the next man, but the Sensei's glass is as big as his head! At least first Half-Life was faithful with leaving one in the chamber.
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You know, I have had a NOLF2 poster on my wall for over a decade, and up until Scruffy's LP of the first game, I had no idea what it even was. I'm kind of excited to finally see it in action.
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Samovar posted:Goddamn, I like wine as much as the next man, but the Sensei's glass is as big as his head! Well, it IS the running gag joke drunk guy from NOLF 1. That was the best ending twist.
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It is nice to see that the UNITY workshop finally released the CT-180, besides the initial problems in the first game. Now is it a infiltration device or meant for emercency extractions, scruffy? (No, i would not know that detail, if i did finish up watching the NOLF lp lately.)
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