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Reading cases has given me the horrible habit of occasionally just pronouncing it "vee."Davros1 posted:Godzilla v. Kong King vs. Kong. It's a melodrama about King Kong getting his life back together, but always screwing it up for himself.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Terror of Mechagodzilla (1975) owns owns owns. It's the last Godzilla movie with Ishiro Honda at the helm. War of the Gargantuas is great too for the non godzilla Toho Kaiju films.
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well why not posted:That's probably more to do with Batman being more popular than Superman. The moneymaker goes first. I mean, it's a chicken and egg thing, is Batman first because he's more popular, or is he more popular because he's first? In general, it's also a better idea to follow the word with less syllables. It's why Godzilla vs. Kong just doesn't read right. Kong vs. Godzilla? It's literally one-two-three. Kong versus Godzilla. I could bullshit like this for days, I'm just saying I know when a title just sounds off, and it's not really because 'who's the hero' so much as, 'how do you say it?'
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Aug 25, 2017 00:32
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Godzilla goes first because he's the Big Fuckin' G and Kong is just some pipsqueak teenage monkey.
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:One thing I'm dreading about Godzilla VS Kong is hearing lots of people say "verse" instead of "versus." Fuckers. My daughter sometimes asks me to verse her in Mario Kart. 
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:My daughter sometimes asks me to verse her in Mario Kart. She's young, she can still be saved.
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dentist toy box posted:War of the Gargantuas is great too for the non godzilla Toho Kaiju films. War of the Gargantuas is Toho's best non-Godzilla kaiju film for my money, and for anyone interested it's playing on a double bill with Frankenstein vs. Baragon this Friday and Saturday at LA's New Beverly Cinema. edit: gently caress, not this Friday/Saturday, NEXT Friday/Saturday
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Aug 25, 2017 04:04
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Rodan is a strong competitor for best non Godzilla movie.
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Aug 25, 2017 04:07
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:King vs. Kong. It's a melodrama about King Kong seeking to become the world champion at Donkey Kong. But seriously... given the characterisation Godzilla and Kong have been given, I think they've actually set things up for an interesting encounter. A bit like and unlike Beavis, both characters are orphans and endlings, only ones of their kind in the world, but Kong is like a man at large, outgrowing his home and likely even his connections with the little scrambling humans he finds some empathy with, while Godzilla is far older, truly ancient, battle-worn and unknowable. In a way, they could be brothers, if they can get over how they're so drat different and find the most basic way to communicate.
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Burkion posted:Rodan is a strong competitor for best non Godzilla movie. Rodan wins this category easily. War of the Gargantuas is fun, but the movie's momentum is brought to a screeching halt by the awful musical number.
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HannibalBarca posted:Rodan wins this category easily. What was it called again The name is on the tip of my tongue Almost like The words get stuck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHRy-kpT8kA
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Burkion posted:Rodan is a strong competitor for best non Godzilla movie. Mothra is the reason it isn't number one, though.
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Aug 25, 2017 04:42
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I would almost expect King Kong vs Godzilla to end with the two putting aside their differences and teaming up to fight some other rear end in a top hat Kaiju who threatens the planet.
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Aug 25, 2017 06:00
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kong is gonna chokeslam a MUTO through a building
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Wizchine posted:I would almost expect King Kong vs Godzilla to end with the two putting aside their differences and teaming up to fight some other rear end in a top hat Kaiju who threatens the planet. 
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I think War of the Gargantuas is the best non-Godzilla monster movie. Rodan is kind of slow, though the last 20-30 minutes are amazing and I think it's interesting how a lot of it is focused on miners rather than scientists or military personnel.
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The best non-Godzilla giant monster movie is either Behemoth, the Sea Monster a.k.a. The Giant Behemoth, or Monsters: Dark Continent, and even with Godzilla movies on the list, those still are better than most Godzilla movies.
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Aug 25, 2017 16:12
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Oh loving hell.
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I love that a lot.
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Dude, Monsters: Dark Continent is dogshit. I was so disheartened when I finally saw it and knew within ten minutes that it was a lovely Iraq War movie that someone had shoehorned the monsters into. Also, yeah, Rodan rules. Also, Frankenstein vs. Baragon rules too and I wish someone would snap up the rights to it again so we could get a DVD copy that doesn't cost $150.
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Dylazodelan posted:Dude, Monsters: Dark Continent is dogshit. I was so disheartened when I finally saw it and knew within ten minutes that it was a lovely Iraq War movie that someone had shoehorned the monsters into. The monsters are not shoehorned in, the movie is about monsters/is called monsters. But if the film hypothetically didn't feature any monsters, it would still be really good.
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Aug 26, 2017 03:49
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Dylazodelan posted:Dude, Monsters: Dark Continent is dogshit. I was so disheartened when I finally saw it and knew within ten minutes that it was a lovely Iraq War movie that someone had shoehorned the monsters into. Yeah it sucks. I don't know what it's got to do with the first, apart from the creature designs being kinda similar.
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K. Waste posted:I mean, it's a chicken and egg thing, is Batman first because he's more popular, or is he more popular because he's first? Probably the first one, what with the hugely successful Nolan Batman films. They aren't newly introduced characters.
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Beeez posted:I think War of the Gargantuas is the best non-Godzilla monster movie. Rodan is kind of slow, though the last 20-30 minutes are amazing and I think it's interesting how a lot of it is focused on miners rather than scientists or military personnel. Gamera 3, X From Outer Space, are we not counting Kong movies?
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Aug 26, 2017 21:27
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K. Waste posted:The monsters are not shoehorned in, the movie is about monsters/is called monsters. But if the film hypothetically didn't feature any monsters, it would still be really good. Have you seen Alien Outpost/Outpost 37?
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Have you seen Alien Outpost/Outpost 37? Nah, but it looks pre' decent. well why not posted:I don't know what it's got to do with the first, apart from the creature designs being kinda similar. The aesthetics are similar, both creature design and cinematography, and both films follow the same event through different settings and through the P.O.V. of different social classes of 'outsider,' both focused on environmentally harsh and politically unstable regions. So, yeah, it's both a faithful and appropriate follow-up.
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K. Waste posted:Nah, but it looks pre' decent. It's a great example of a movie no one on earth other than you would give a poo poo about so I would be curious to hear your thoughts if you track it down.
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Aug 26, 2017 21:57
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Monsters: Dark Continent is a top 3 Kaiju film, but admittedly not pornographic.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Monsters: Dark Continent is a top 3 Kaiju film, but admittedly not pornographic. Then it simply isn't a kaiju film
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I dunno, most kaiju movies are really chaste. Like, one of the most recurring melodramatic themes of these types of movies is the total repression of sexual independence, particularly of women. And if not that, some tense sexual drama is usually occurring somewhere but never addressed explicitly. Gojira, Rodan, The X from Outer Space, and a bunch of others just immediately leap out to me as the monsters explicitly being a metaphor for the characters' repressed sexual desires. edit: Like, if you want a pornographic kaiju movie, that's It Came from Beneath the Sea in a nutshell.
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Aug 27, 2017 00:51
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Godzilla 2014 has bugs who gently caress.
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Aug 27, 2017 01:55
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Zilla fucks.
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Inescapable Duck posted:Godzilla 2014 has bugs who gently caress. It's a visual parallel to the Brodys being reunited at the beginning of the film. Waffleman_ posted:Zilla fucks. Zilla reproduces asexually.
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Aug 27, 2017 02:27
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Zilla fucks itself.
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I was gonna say, it's a major plot point, that characters comment on incredulously: Zilla does not gently caress.
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I always thought a lot of the kaiju combat was quasi sexual - it makes sense if we're juxtaposing it with human characters repressing their own sexuality.
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Aug 27, 2017 02:33
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2014 literally ends with a kiss of death. Godzilla is all for sexual murder
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K. Waste posted:I dunno, most kaiju movies are really chaste. Like, one of the most recurring melodramatic themes of these types of movies is the total repression of sexual independence, particularly of women. And if not that, some tense sexual drama is usually occurring somewhere but never addressed explicitly. Gojira, Rodan, The X from Outer Space, and a bunch of others just immediately leap out to me as the monsters explicitly being a metaphor for the characters' repressed sexual desires. Have you seen Evangelion, K. Waste? I'm curious what you'd make of Ikari Gendo's relationship with the giant robot / kaiju inhabited by his wife's soul -- which she fled to, to escape the Illuminati who wanted to kill her, but which also functionally equates to telling him to go sleep on the couch.
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I know Anguirus fucks.
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