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Grittybeard posted:I just love this stupid, corrupt, person destroying sport too much to stop watching. Yeah, pretty much. We're all awful people.
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Grittybeard posted:I think it's quite likely boxing is worse for you, the sub-concussive impacts over time seem very dangerous and boxing is a lot more likely to let a dude get beat up a lot longer before he passes out. Existing research indicates this is the case
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Allen Wren posted:In the fight thread, it was implied that both MMA and boxing refs have approximately the same standards re: stopping fights to protect fighters who cannot defend themselves. I would certainly hope this is the case. Now. I've seen a shitton of boxing. I have seen exactly one MMA match. The standards are the same in that you want to give the fighter as much of a chance as possible without seriously injuring their body or brain, but I'd say there's a much higher bar to clear for MMA refs. Having been engaged in recovering my head from a fight where I got knocked down twice, I now have a lot more forgiveness for refs who end the fight too early. Even if we think so from the perspective of fight fans who want entertainment, there's no leg to stand on from the perspective of fighter safety.
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Aug 30, 2017 22:32
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My favourite bit is where they neatly walk the edge of the ring while looking out in the wrong the direction, really selling the blindness there boys
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Aug 30, 2017 22:55
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdMbvimYw1o from inside the arena with no commentary I agree with the judges, Conor won two rounds max
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Aug 30, 2017 23:50
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So apparently Andre Berto wants to do mma and Jose Aldo wants to box. Wonder if we can work out a trade https://www.badlefthook.com/2017/8/30/16229816/ufc-star-jose-aldo-considering-move-to-boxing https://youtu.be/hBcuLTvchYA - Aldo sparring Mikey at Robert Garcia Boxing Academy https://www.badlefthook.com/2017/8/29/16220904/andre-berto-wants-to-join-the-ufc
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Aug 31, 2017 05:36
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They should kickbox each other. That could actually be a good fight?
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I'm really not trying to come off like a hand-wringing "oh these modern fighters and their pants below the waist and their rap music" type, I just figured that getting sat on and your head smacked around wasn't kosher. I did some digging and here's the fight in question. The guy on the ground does a better job defending than I gave him credit for when I saw this three or four years ago, but it's still not great. His head still gets bounced off the floor and the fence a few times....ah, whatever. It just seems a bit excessive with this guy still catching elbows and fists to the head because his arms haven't dropped. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x13cxcb
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:They should kickbox each other. That could actually be a good fight? that would look like floyd vs conor
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Allen Wren posted:I'm really not trying to come off like a hand-wringing "oh these modern fighters and their pants below the waist and their rap music" type, I just figured that getting sat on and your head smacked around wasn't kosher. I did some digging and here's the fight in question. The guy on the ground does a better job defending than I gave him credit for when I saw this three or four years ago, but it's still not great. His head still gets bounced off the floor and the fence a few times....ah, whatever. It just seems a bit excessive with this guy still catching elbows and fists to the head because his arms haven't dropped. Using Fabio Maldonado as a measure for bad stoppages in MMA is not very productive. He's firmly in the camp of fighters that are way too tough for their own good. He's also too small for his weight class and the only person to finish him without a doctor stoppage is the current UFC Heavyweight champion who was 40lbs heavier than him.
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I.N.R.I posted:that would look like floyd vs conor Now I'm the guy who DKSAMMA
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MysteryNad posted:Using Fabio Maldonado as a measure for bad stoppages in MMA is not very productive. He's firmly in the camp of fighters that are way too tough for their own good. He's also too small for his weight class and the only person to finish him without a doctor stoppage is the current UFC Heavyweight champion who was 40lbs heavier than him. Okay, so this is just straight-up not indicative of what the usual deal is. That makes me feel way better about it.
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It's not the usual deal but it does happen. If you keep watching MMA you'll probably see something like that again Everyone agrees that stuff is bad, though
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I dunno about you guys but I'm starting to get real excited about Canelo-GGG. I'm a big fan of both guys and I just have a feeling this is gonna be a great one.
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Was looking at a YouTube of most dangerous boxers and had never heard of Gerald McClellan. Looked him up and am now depressed
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the_american_dream posted:Was looking at a YouTube of most dangerous boxers and had never heard of Gerald McClellan. Looked him up and am now depressed Worse things have happened to better people
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The Ninth Layer posted:I dunno about you guys but I'm starting to get real excited about Canelo-GGG. I'm a big fan of both guys and I just have a feeling this is gonna be a great one. I think so too. I've been trying to tell everyone I know that it's going to be excellent, and a much better use of their cash than May/Mac was, but none of them give a poo poo. It's depressing the gently caress out of me, because this fight is everything that boxing fans want even down to the styles and stakes.
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ozymandius1024 posted:I think so too. it's unfortunate, but neither of them have much star power (at least outside of Mexico). And that's what sells fights. I mean for all of Floyd's unquestioned greatness in the ring, you could argue his most impressive feat is being able to become the biggest draw in boxing while using an extremely defensive style. That said, I'm looking forward to the fight. Should be really good. I am a little worried though if GGG is actually falling off, or was Jacobs just really good/the right kind of fighter to handle him. I'm also trying to not give too much weight to Canelo's last fight since that was a giant shitshow (seriously Connor put up a better performance than JCC jr).
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Sep 1, 2017 15:39
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If this fight delivers to expectations like kovalev/ward 1 did then we are in for a loving treat
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Oh guess what's out for delivery  http://allinboxing.bigcartel.com/product/ggg-killer-t-shirt-black
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butros posted:Oh guess what's out for delivery That is an amazing t shirt.
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Sep 1, 2017 19:02
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Sold out already?
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Sep 1, 2017 19:17
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Yeah it was a one off preorder. That guy has really cool shirt designs pretty regularly tho, worth following on igram.
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has anyone ever used fite.tv to stream big fights? it's the only way i know of that i can watch the ggg/canelo fight and i'm curious if i just wasted $79.
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paying for fights? can't relate
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NUKES CURE NORKS posted:has anyone ever used fite.tv to stream big fights? it's the only way i know of that i can watch the ggg/canelo fight and i'm curious if i just wasted $79. I've used them for pro wrestling events in the past. I've found the bigger and more professional the event the less problems you will have with the stream so should be good with ggg/canelo.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gykpVko-omE - Under the Lights Canelo-Golovkin (probably not available outside the US  )
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The SituAsian posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gykpVko-omE - Under the Lights Canelo-Golovkin (probably not available outside the US i am pretty loving hyped for this. bernard hopkins and mayweather both pick canelo, and although i originally liked ggg, someone pointed out that the only boxers that gave alvarez trouble were defensively brilliant fighters in lara and mayweather. the thing is though, i'm not sure that ggg can't out-box canelo if he chooses to not go full destructo as he's done with basically every other fighter who's got in there with him and just concentrates on racking up rounds... could he do that? whatever. all i know is that if canelo wins, he will have to absorb a career-shortening amount of damage to get it.
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I can see a Chavez-Meldrick Taylor type fight, Canelo impressing early with flashy combos but GGG grinding him down as the fight goes on. Just depends if he can stop him before it goes to the cards...
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Sep 6, 2017 02:26
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Canelo ducked GGG for a reason. Hands down GGG wins as long as it doesn't go to decision.
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I'm worried GGG is older than we're hoping for in this showdown.
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meat CRime posted:Canelo ducked GGG for a reason. Hands down GGG wins as long as it doesn't go to decision. kimbo305 posted:I'm worried GGG is older than we're hoping for in this showdown. Yeah, he stopped ducking him for a reason too.
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Hopkins (being a partner in Golden Boy Promotions) and Floyd (legacy reasons) both have a vested interest in having Canelo win but their reasons for picking him are justifiable from a logical perspective now
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Even for me, I'm picking Golovkin but it's a toss up from my perspective.
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I got Canelo
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GGG KO with a body shot after 8.
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They're both good fighters so a pick for either is reasonable. It's just that there's so much hype behind Canelo as the next Great Mexican Fighter you can't help but feel he's a little overrated.
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Yeah but for Golovkin there's not looking all that hot (relatively) his past two performances and the classic https://youtu.be/jiIHbujOItU
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GGG's last fight was very competitive but it's tough to compare that to Canelo's last few fights easily beating guys who barely had a pulse to begin with.
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