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Xile77
Sep 18, 2003
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My Nexus 6p is wearing down and it's almost time for me to get a new phone. I want the highest hardware specs available for an unlocked phone for the money I saved up. I'm thinking of switching to a month to month carrier with a more lenient data plan, possibly Cricket or MetroPCS.

Country/Provider: USA/Project Fi

Current contract status: month to month

Budget (phone/plan): $800 for the phone, and 50/month no contract carrier. I want a plan that slows data after a point, instead of one that charges for data used. Project Fi is killing me because I forget to DL media before I hit the road, and many times forget to turn off mobile data.

Features I know I want: Headphone jack, SD card slot, Android preferable, decent battery life, something that works well with VR stuff. The 6p's layout didn't really work well with the cell phone goggle things.


Thank you for your time!

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Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

If you want a headphone jack then you're limited to android. SD card limits you further. Just forget the sd card and get the unlimited cricket plan for 55/mo

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

Xile77 posted:

My Nexus 6p is wearing down and it's almost time for me to get a new phone. I want the highest hardware specs available for an unlocked phone for the money I saved up. I'm thinking of switching to a month to month carrier with a more lenient data plan, possibly Cricket or MetroPCS.

Country/Provider: USA/Project Fi

Current contract status: month to month

Budget (phone/plan): $800 for the phone, and 50/month no contract carrier. I want a plan that slows data after a point, instead of one that charges for data used. Project Fi is killing me because I forget to DL media before I hit the road, and many times forget to turn off mobile data.

Features I know I want: Headphone jack, SD card slot, Android preferable, decent battery life, something that works well with VR stuff. The 6p's layout didn't really work well with the cell phone goggle things.


Thank you for your time!

I switched from a 6P to a $300 Moto 5g+ and I'm super happy. It feels like a straight upgrade. Bluetooth and regular phone quality are vastly improved. I can make phone calls inside my house again and blue tooth doesn't cut off when it loses line of sight or you touch the white line on the upper left of the phone.

Desk Lamp
Jun 30, 2014

Xile77 posted:

My Nexus 6p is wearing down and it's almost time for me to get a new phone. I want the highest hardware specs available for an unlocked phone for the money I saved up. I'm thinking of switching to a month to month carrier with a more lenient data plan, possibly Cricket or MetroPCS.

Country/Provider: USA/Project Fi

Current contract status: month to month

Budget (phone/plan): $800 for the phone, and 50/month no contract carrier. I want a plan that slows data after a point, instead of one that charges for data used. Project Fi is killing me because I forget to DL media before I hit the road, and many times forget to turn off mobile data.

Features I know I want: Headphone jack, SD card slot, Android preferable, decent battery life, something that works well with VR stuff. The 6p's layout didn't really work well with the cell phone goggle things.


Thank you for your time!
The Galaxy S8+ should meet all those requirements. AT&T just rebranded their prepaid service and I believe offer exactly what you want, not sure on the price though.

MasterBuilder
Sep 30, 2008
Oven Wrangler
I currently using a Nexus 5 with a cracked screen (7 months) and am looking for a smaller phone similar or smaller than the nexus 4 I had previous. Heaphone jack is a must and I liked having updates from google directly. I was hoping that the iphone se would get a slight refresh yesterday but that didn't happen.

Country/Provider: Canada/Freedom mobile

Current contract status: month to month, unlimited data

Price range: 500CAD or so. Higher wouldn't break the bank but I would be less likely to settle

Tippecanoe
Jan 26, 2011

MasterBuilder posted:

I currently using a Nexus 5 with a cracked screen (7 months) and am looking for a smaller phone similar or smaller than the nexus 4 I had previous. Heaphone jack is a must and I liked having updates from google directly. I was hoping that the iphone se would get a slight refresh yesterday but that didn't happen.

Country/Provider: Canada/Freedom mobile

Current contract status: month to month, unlimited data

Price range: 500CAD or so. Higher wouldn't break the bank but I would be less likely to settle

If it helps you, I settled on a Moto G5+ from amazon.com for just over 400CAD. That seems to be the most common thread suggestion. Mine hasn't arrived yet, though, so I can't give you a review.

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

What Tippecanoe said is probably your best bet until the Android One handsets get announced and even then you've got the wildcard of you being in Canada.

sourdough
Apr 30, 2012

MasterBuilder posted:

I currently using a Nexus 5 with a cracked screen (7 months) and am looking for a smaller phone similar or smaller than the nexus 4 I had previous. Heaphone jack is a must and I liked having updates from google directly. I was hoping that the iphone se would get a slight refresh yesterday but that didn't happen.

Country/Provider: Canada/Freedom mobile

Current contract status: month to month, unlimited data

Price range: 500CAD or so. Higher wouldn't break the bank but I would be less likely to settle

iPhone SE didn't really need a refresh tbh, if you like the size and are ok with iOS instead of Android, it's basically the only game in town for small phones. Everything in Android land is going to be at least 5" or slightly more.

MasterBuilder
Sep 30, 2008
Oven Wrangler
Thanks for the help guys. I'll take a walk around this weekend to get a hands on the current offerings.

codo27
Apr 21, 2008

RVProfootballer posted:

Everything in Android land is going to be at least 5" or slightly more.

Let's not forget the (albeit hard to come by) Xperia Compact. I loved my Z3 until the glue started to separate at one corner of the screen. I went from that to the Moto X play which was so bad I kinda have to ignore you goons recommending this newer Moto. I've been searching for one of the more recent Compacts but drat they're hard to get in Canada

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.
The iPhone SE is still an awesome phone and the prices just dropped. Definitely worth a try!

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


I am just rejoining Android after... Five years? drat. Anyway, with the Xperia XA1. I got it at 20% off and the lack of side bezels makes it the first phone since the iPhone 4S where it actually fits my stubby-rear end fingers.

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

Kind of an oddball situation here (or maybe it isn't) and I apologize in advance for the limited information I've got.

Country: USA

Phone: Galaxy S5. Possibly locked to Verizon, I'm assuming it is.

Plan: Some sort of Verizon plan, I don't know (and can't reliably find out) the details of the existing one, including whether there's a contract.

Budget: Limited. Call it $50 a month max.

The short version is that, for various family drama reasons which I'm not going to go into, my roommate (whose family has up til now been happy to pay for her phone because she's unemployed) needs her phone taken off her family's plan and put onto an individual plan, and we would rather present this as a fait accompli to them if at all possible. I'm thinking a prepaid Verizon plan sim card kit is my best bet, but am I likely to run into any hassles? I'd like to port her number to the new plan but it's not a dealbreaker if that becomes difficult.

Alternatively, I've got an old Nexus 6 that I could just throw any old prepaid plan at; she doesn't use much data and mostly just needs a reliable phone, but I'm not a hundred percent convinced that it is a reliable phone at this point so I'd rather she stuck with hers.

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003
I'm looking for a new plan. I'm currently on Ting, but my wife likes to chug data through Facebook and Pandora. My bill is topping $80-ish right now, and that's with her being "careful." I was looking at Mint SIM because their pricing is outrageously good, but I see that they are about 50/50 in terms of reviews - people either love them or hate them. Has anyone here switched to them? They are a T-Mobile MVNO, and seeing as I'm using Ting, I think I should be OK with that.

Barring that, any recommendations on a good plan with around 4GB data that will come in at around $40 per phone, per month? The T-Mo 4GB $45 prepaid plan is looking alright, but the "plus taxes and fees" bothers me a bit, and Straight Talk offers 8GB for the same $45.

I've got a Moto X Pure, so I can pretty much go with any carrier, but I'd like to avoid any Sprint MVNOs, as their service in the NE US (Connecticut) isn't spectacular.

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

berzerkmonkey posted:

Barring that, any recommendations on a good plan with around 4GB data that will come in at around $40 per phone, per month? The T-Mo 4GB $45 prepaid plan is looking alright, but the "plus taxes and fees" bothers me a bit, and Straight Talk offers 8GB for the same $45.

Cricket has 4gb for $35 with auto-pay

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

EugeneJ posted:

Cricket has 4gb for $35 with auto-pay

Ah, I didn't see that dropdown. Thanks. I guess I should just get a cheap unlocked phone and start trying plans out... Anyone got a line on a super cheap unlocked tester phone?

berzerkmonkey fucked around with this message at 15:06 on Sep 15, 2017

sourdough
Apr 30, 2012

berzerkmonkey posted:

Ah, I didn't see that dropdown. Thanks. I guess I should just get a cheap unlocked phone and start trying plans out... Anyone got a line on a super cheap unlocked tester phone?

Moto E4 with Amazon ads on lockscreen is $100 new

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

RVProfootballer posted:

Moto E4 with Amazon ads on lockscreen is $100 new

Yeah, I just really don't want to spend that amount on a phone that I'm not actually going to use later.

Would I be able to get a SIM from another carrier and just swap between the two in my current phone? I'm not worried about the phone number right now, but will associating the same MEID with two different SIMS/carriers screw something up?

Chillyrabbit
Oct 24, 2012

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Tippecanoe posted:


Country/Provider: Canada/Virgin Mobile

Current contract status: Finished in January

Budget (phone/plan): Preferably under $500 (CAD) for an unlocked phone

Features I know I want: Headphone jack, SD card slot, Android preferable, decent battery life



Some goons seem to like the ZTE axon 7 http://m.gsmarena.com/zte_axon_7-8067.php try searching the main android thread for opinions on it.

It would meet most of your requirements and is available from newegg Canada, for about $500 with free shipping.

silence_kit
Jul 14, 2011

by the sex ghost

RVProfootballer posted:

iPhone SE didn't really need a refresh tbh, if you like the size and are ok with iOS instead of Android, it's basically the only game in town for small phones. Everything in Android land is going to be at least 5" or slightly more.

The Sony Xperia XZ1 Compact is pretty new Android Phone and has a 4.7" display. I would recommend the iPhone SE however--I just got one and it is really a great phone.

sourdough
Apr 30, 2012

berzerkmonkey posted:

Yeah, I just really don't want to spend that amount on a phone that I'm not actually going to use later.

Would I be able to get a SIM from another carrier and just swap between the two in my current phone? I'm not worried about the phone number right now, but will associating the same MEID with two different SIMS/carriers screw something up?

If your phone is unlocked and has the right network bands to use on both, then it will work perfectly, no problems at all with using the same phone on multiple networks. There's no problem at all swapping SIM cards in the same phone. Only potential issue is some carriers I think have to explicitly whitelist IMEIs (Sprint I think does, dunno about Verizon?), but T-Mobile and AT&T will definitely be fine and I think their MVNOs will be too but not positive.

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

RVProfootballer posted:

If your phone is unlocked and has the right network bands to use on both, then it will work perfectly, no problems at all with using the same phone on multiple networks. There's no problem at all swapping SIM cards in the same phone. Only potential issue is some carriers I think have to explicitly whitelist IMEIs (Sprint I think does, dunno about Verizon?), but T-Mobile and AT&T will definitely be fine and I think their MVNOs will be too but not positive.

Would I have to port the number every time I swapped the SIM?

sourdough
Apr 30, 2012

berzerkmonkey posted:

Would I have to port the number every time I swapped the SIM?

Nah, each SIM will be it's own number. So if you want some prepaid network, just get a SIM and activate it normally as a new number, no porting. When you want to go back to your original number and service, swap to your original SIM. You can't have the same number on multiple SIMs, so if that's what you were saying you planned, sorry I misread.

Edit: If you port out a given number/SIM, that SIM card is dead and can't be used again. If you just have separate SIM cards for separate services and numbers, you can swap them in and out of a phone with no problem.

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

RVProfootballer posted:

Nah, each SIM will be it's own number. So if you want some prepaid network, just get a SIM and activate it normally as a new number, no porting. When you want to go back to your original number and service, swap to your original SIM. You can't have the same number on multiple SIMs, so if that's what you were saying you planned, sorry I misread.

Edit: If you port out a given number/SIM, that SIM card is dead and can't be used again. If you just have separate SIM cards for separate services and numbers, you can swap them in and out of a phone with no problem.

Yeah, that's what I figured. Unfortunately, it sounds like doing this with one phone is going to be a pain in the rear end.

I did pick up a Moto E4 for $40 at Walmart for the GSM hack. We'll see how that goes.

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.
Is the Moto G5+ the best value (as in performance/dollar) Android phone out right now?

I'm looking to upgrade from my iPhone 5S that I've had for almost 4 years now. It's running out of battery way too quickly since the iOS 11 update.

silence_kit
Jul 14, 2011

by the sex ghost

Howard Phillips posted:

Is the Moto G5+ the best value (as in performance/dollar) Android phone out right now?

I'm looking to upgrade from my iPhone 5S that I've had for almost 4 years now. It's running out of battery way too quickly since the iOS 11 update.

You should also consider an iPhone SE. It's more expensive, but is a better phone and will last and be supported longer.

Aquila
Jan 24, 2003

Country: USA

Phone: Iphone 6s/7/8 plus

Plan: Not sprint

Budget: $65/month

My sister moved to a place with no coverage (I showed her wifi assist), and also cracked her iphone 6(s?). She wants an iphone but has basically no income (grad school). Are there any deals on older gen (but still new) iphones to be had? She apparently pays $65~ a month for unlimited data with Sprint, I asked her to check her actual usage.

perl5 before swine
Feb 26, 2005

my old avatar was text and broke tables and pissed people off so now i have this
Country: US

Current Phone: 1st gen Moto X on its last legs

Plan: Verizon

Budget: It costs what it costs

I use my phone primarily as a music/podcast player, usually without the headphones. Not an audiophile, but it shouldn't sound like poo poo. Other dominant use - checking Twitter and using the encyclopedia internetica.

Other, lesser used stuff: Texting, phone calls (so no IPhone), camera (I should be able to identify what I've taken a picture of...don't need a gazillion pixels resolution), low-instensity gaming (sudoku, trivia crack, and the like).

Twerk from Home
Jan 17, 2009

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perl5 before swine posted:

Country: US

Current Phone: 1st gen Moto X on its last legs

Plan: Verizon

Budget: It costs what it costs

I use my phone primarily as a music/podcast player, usually without the headphones. Not an audiophile, but it shouldn't sound like poo poo. Other dominant use - checking Twitter and using the encyclopedia internetica.

Other, lesser used stuff: Texting, phone calls (so no IPhone), camera (I should be able to identify what I've taken a picture of...don't need a gazillion pixels resolution), low-instensity gaming (sudoku, trivia crack, and the like).

Why can't an iPhone make phone calls? Anyway, you sound like a great candidate for a Moto G5+ subsidized from Amazon. The big-memory one is probably worth the price premium, it's $240 with the Amazon subsidy: https://www.amazon.com/Moto-Plus-5th-Generation-Lockscreen/dp/B01NBRN2YI

If that's too rich for your blood, the $140 after amazon subsidy Moto E4 Plus will also fully suit your needs: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072ZS6JD2/

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

perl5 before swine posted:

Country: US

Current Phone: 1st gen Moto X on its last legs

Plan: Verizon

Budget: It costs what it costs

I use my phone primarily as a music/podcast player, usually without the headphones. Not an audiophile, but it shouldn't sound like poo poo. Other dominant use - checking Twitter and using the encyclopedia internetica.

Other, lesser used stuff: Texting, phone calls (so no IPhone), camera (I should be able to identify what I've taken a picture of...don't need a gazillion pixels resolution), low-instensity gaming (sudoku, trivia crack, and the like).

Actually I'd say you're one of the few people who shouldn't get a Moto G5+. You should get a Pixel.

First, you keep your phones a long time and the Pixel will be both supported for a long time and usable for a long time. The Moto G5+ will be begging to be replaced far sooner.

Second, the Pixel is just the best phone out there. Bar none. Best camera, best software, best Android. Period.

Third, it's getting announced tomorrow (for preorder) and will be available on the 19th for the smaller one and the 15th for the larger one. That means you're getting on at the ground floor for the support window.

It will be expensive (though Google will finance you if need be) and you should definitely DEFINITELY buy through the Google Store as their customer service is top notch.

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

LastInLine posted:

Actually I'd say you're one of the few people who shouldn't get a Moto G5+. You should get a Pixel.

First, you keep your phones a long time and the Pixel will be both supported for a long time and usable for a long time. The Moto G5+ will be begging to be replaced far sooner.

Second, the Pixel is just the best phone out there. Bar none. Best camera, best software, best Android. Period.

Third, it's getting announced tomorrow (for preorder) and will be available on the 19th for the smaller one and the 15th for the larger one. That means you're getting on at the ground floor for the support window.

It will be expensive (though Google will finance you if need be) and you should definitely DEFINITELY buy through the Google Store as their customer service is top notch.
He listens to podcasts and takes an occasional photo - why would he spend $800 on a phone (with no expandable memory) when he can get a phone that will do everything he needs for $200? Even if he only waited two years between phones, he could get the G5+ now and pick up the G6+ (or 7+, or whatever) down the road and still pay half the price of the Pixel.

There's no reason to buy a flagship phone if you don't need one.

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

berzerkmonkey posted:

He listens to podcasts and takes an occasional photo - why would he spend $800 on a phone (with no expandable memory) when he can get a phone that will do everything he needs for $200? Even if he only waited two years between phones, he could get the G5+ now and pick up the G6+ (or 7+, or whatever) down the road and still pay half the price of the Pixel.

There's no reason to buy a flagship phone if you don't need one.

He's using a phone from 2013 in 2017, he obviously takes care of his devices and uses them as long as he's able. No matter what way you slice it, the $650 Pixel 2 will last longer than a $240 Moto G5+ (let's discount the idea of getting the 2GB Moto upfront as that won't be useful out of the box). In fact, it will still be receiving security updates three years from now and OS updates for two years, significantly longer than the G5+.

On top of that, he can also trade in that phone later directly to Google if he later wants to upgrade meaning the Pixel's cost is lessened even if he was planning to use the G5+ as disposable and buying a new one as needed throughout the next four years. So instead of $800 vs. $200 like you're claiming, it's actually $450 vs. $240 at his next upgrade time.

On top of that, the Pixel is just the best phone. It turns out he may end up valuing the fact that the camera is excellent and fast. I can say from personal experience that I didn't use the lovely cameras on my Nexuses much at all but I use my Pixel's all the time because it's so good and fast. He'd also get unlimited full resolution storage for those photos with the Pixel.

For someone who's willing to use their device not two years but four years, a disposable phone (and make no mistake, the Moto G5+ is indeed disposable--it won't get updates and it won't get security updates) is a nonstarter. Why not pay the money up front for something he KNOWS will work and work well for four years and if he decides to upgrade there's trade in money left on it in a no-hassle guarantee? I recommend most people get on the disposable train because most people are actually going to dispose of it. He's not.

Also the expandable memory thing is a canard. 64GB on the phone is more than enough for him and both phones come with that.

Edit: His budget is "It costs what it costs" and I took that to mean "I'm willing to pay for quality if I it means the phone is good" (which it should be noted was how the Moto X was originally sold, it was expensive for the specs but the experience made it worth it). A phone he'll definitely want to replace in two years is $240 and a phone he can keep four years if he wants is $650 and the phone most like what he has in terms of a good user experience is the Pixel 2.

ClassActionFursuit fucked around with this message at 14:03 on Oct 4, 2017

sourdough
Apr 30, 2012
Yeah, $650 Pixel 2 direct from Google, with dual front facing speakers, seems to fit what he was asking for. Even ignoring resale, that price difference of $400 or so spread over 3-4 years of having the phone is pretty small compared to the benefits of it vs the G5 Plus.

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

There's also a compromise of last year's Pixels which will still be sold in the Play Store for $100 less.

Another thing that was announced is that the Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL will be receiving OS updates for three years, which will even further extend its useful life.

perl5 before swine
Feb 26, 2005

my old avatar was text and broke tables and pissed people off so now i have this
Folks, thanks for your input. I genuinely appreciate it. Yes, I tenaciously hold onto my device as long as it adequately fulfills its functions and I am willing to pay more to get what I think I want. A longer lifecycle is therefore attractive and makes me agree with the folks recommending the Pixel/2 (doubt I'll go with an XL...I prefer something that sits comfortably in my hand). I thought I might see some recommendations for the Moto Z as I thought it was supposed to be the successor to the Moto X; am I naive, uninformed, or some combination of the two?

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

perl5 before swine posted:

Folks, thanks for your input. I genuinely appreciate it. Yes, I tenaciously hold onto my device as long as it adequately fulfills its functions and I am willing to pay more to get what I think I want. A longer lifecycle is therefore attractive and makes me agree with the folks recommending the Pixel/2 (doubt I'll go with an XL...I prefer something that sits comfortably in my hand). I thought I might see some recommendations for the Moto Z as I thought it was supposed to be the successor to the Moto X; am I naive, uninformed, or some combination of the two?

The reason this thread pretty much only recommends the Moto G5+ and the Pixel is because the G5+ is going to be good enough for most people while only costing $240. For instance, the Moto Z has a dumb modular system which pretty much forces you to use the battery attachment and won't perform much better than the Moto G5+ while costing twice as much.

Then there's the problem at the other end where the Pixel is so much smoother than every other Android phone that once you start approaching its price, why would you settle? For that reason there just isn't much of a reason to consider anything other than those two, especially not in the mid range. Now that the Pixel 1 is still available but even cheaper, the mid range makes even less sense.

DeathSandwich
Apr 24, 2008

I fucking hate puzzles.
The one downside to a pixel 1 now is that it's a year into its lifecycle and will only be getting OS support for the next major Android revision and security updates for another year past that.

It's still by far the best phone to exist at its price.

Meldonox
Jan 13, 2006

Hey, are you listening to a word I'm saying?
I'm pretty into the Pixel 2 XL. I'm still not totally decided on the 2 versus the 1, but since my stuff generally lasts forever (my Nexus 5 is still in drat near pristine condition) I'm guessing I'm better off getting the 2 and finally putting a Bluetooth head unit in my car since that's the only place I'd miss the headphone jack.

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

Meldonox posted:

I'm pretty into the Pixel 2 XL. I'm still not totally decided on the 2 versus the 1, but since my stuff generally lasts forever (my Nexus 5 is still in drat near pristine condition) I'm guessing I'm better off getting the 2 and finally putting a Bluetooth head unit in my car since that's the only place I'd miss the headphone jack.

If you have a jack in your car but not Bluetooth, you can buy a Bluetooth adapter for your car for $20 that will do the job. My wife has the linked one and I can confirm it's been flawless with her Pixel.

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FISHMANPET
Mar 3, 2007

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I'll be traveling to Montreal, Quebec, Canada this winter for a week and I'd like to keep some cell service while I'm there. I've got an unlocked Moto G5+ so I just need a good lead on what the prepaid landscape looks like. Just a handful of minutes and some data for navigating and such.

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