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King Burgundy posted:That's all folks. Given that Bif flipped town, my list above remains unchanged. I think these are the scum. I'll hop on Kasu if that is the way everyone wants to go. But starting with Fisk to make my feelings known. A reminder: Jonathan Fisk posted:"Oh, how do you know that???" she says. He wasn't the only person to say things like that, but I want to call attention to it. ##vote Fisk
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Hal Incandenza posted:Thanks opop! Hey Hal. So Bif was town. Now what?
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Sep 15, 2017 22:35
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Oh right I was going to ask about that. Taste did you seriously think the fake sounding part of Bif's role was that she was a Doc/RB jailer?
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Sep 15, 2017 22:46
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Retro Futurist posted:Oh right I was going to ask about that. buddy i think i posted why i thought her claim was false ten times if not more and while two protective roles was a big factor, her posting like a loon was the primary motivator. What's funny is i seem to recall kb not being moved by the two protective roles argument until now 
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Sep 15, 2017 22:52
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incidentally, kasumeat claimed to believe i was doctor because he rolecopped me
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Sep 15, 2017 22:54
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Jonathan Fisk posted:buddy i think i posted why i thought her claim was false ten times if not more I mentioned it before. But my primary suspicion early on was actually based on her role being crazy and me thinking this is a vanilla game. You'll recall that I came around once the mason claim happened and no longer thought she had a chance of being scum. Also, you'll recall that the only reason I thought she could be scum at all was due to claim related shenanigans. I actually thought she was town on posting. ---- In a way, I hope you aren't actually scum, because then this will be another instance of me being absolutely correct, and you being very very wrong. But I think it's more likely that you are just scum.
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Sep 15, 2017 22:57
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King Burgundy posted:I mentioned it before. But my primary suspicion early on was actually based on her role being crazy and me thinking this is a vanilla game. I was mistaken, but as flerp and others showed, I wasn't wrong in the slightest. I don't regret removing bif from the game in the least.
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Sep 15, 2017 23:00
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Then again, what would a game with me as town be without you trying to mislynch me 
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Sep 15, 2017 23:00
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Jonathan Fisk posted:incidentally, kasumeat claimed to believe i was doctor because he rolecopped me He claims to have rolecopped you as doc on N1? Given you are voting him, do you disbelieve that? Or just assume he is a scum rolecop? Who else do you think is scum now that you are reflecting in light of you being SO VERY WRONG on Bif? 
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Sep 15, 2017 23:01
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King Burgundy posted:He claims to have rolecopped you as doc on N1? You might intuit that bif's flip affected my read
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Sep 15, 2017 23:02
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Jonathan Fisk posted:I don't regret removing bif from the game in the least. ITT, Taste is happy he got a town killed. Also happy he removed someone who was actually participating, voting, etc. Unlike many in this game.
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Sep 15, 2017 23:03
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Jonathan Fisk posted:You might intuit that bif's flip affected my read Yup, cool. But who else is scum besides Kasu?
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Sep 15, 2017 23:03
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King Burgundy posted:ITT, Taste is happy he got a town killed. Yes. I'm happy bif is gone from this game. You'll find that i'm now the primary voter and participator, so please remove your vote.
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Sep 15, 2017 23:03
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King Burgundy posted:Yup, cool. But who else is scum besides Kasu? I'm inclined to think you are, considering how quickly your wristcutting turned to crowing
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Sep 15, 2017 23:04
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Jonathan Fisk posted:Yes. I'm happy bif is gone from this game. You'll find that i'm now the primary voter and participator, so please remove your vote. Eh, it isn't just about # of posts. Once Bif disappeared you eased way back. I felt pretty alone and sad to be in this game with everyone else at EOD yesterday. Pretty sure it is me. But I'll give you that you showed up. Even if your vote didn't do anything. I'll think on that.
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Sep 15, 2017 23:05
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Jonathan Fisk posted:I'm inclined to think you are, considering how quickly your wristcutting turned to crowing Really, if I was scum, wouldn't I have KNOWN Bif was town already and been more open about calling you out on how wrong you were pre-flip? You know very well how happy I am every time I can prove you wrong. That's the reason for the crowing.
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Sep 15, 2017 23:07
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But let's take that as if it were reality. Who else is scum? Or were there only two in this game?
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Sep 15, 2017 23:08
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Jonathan Fisk posted:buddy i think i posted why i thought her claim was false ten times if not more Yeah I'm not digging through your 10 page slap fight to pick that poo poo out
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Sep 15, 2017 23:08
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It's emotionally draining to have that resolve! I wanted kasumeat to be town very much, and I probably gave too much credence to him because he supported to me. More so than lynching bif, that was my error yesterday.
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Sep 15, 2017 23:08
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King Burgundy posted:But let's take that as if it were reality. Who else is scum? Kasumeat, surely. Yo, possibly. A lurker, likely.
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Sep 15, 2017 23:09
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Cool, we can leave it there for now. I'm interested to hear from everyone else and don't want them to be able to complain about this becoming the Taste and KB show.
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Sep 15, 2017 23:11
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King Burgundy posted:Cool, we can leave it there for now. i haven't seen anything to contradict the idea that it's improbable for two such protective roles to exist in a thirteen player game. so i'd vote taste. kasu is fine too.
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Sep 15, 2017 23:13
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King Burgundy posted:Cool, we can leave it there for now. oh, duh, it's somber. he's content lurking
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Sep 15, 2017 23:16
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Somberbrero posted:i haven't seen anything to contradict the idea that it's improbable for two such protective roles to exist in a thirteen player game. so i'd vote taste. kasu is fine too. If I were the mod, I'd put in a juggernaut and chuckle to myself.
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Sep 15, 2017 23:22
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RF why Kasu?
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chaoslord posted:RF why Kasu? I've had a bad feeling about him since D1 and nothing has changed it. He also keeps getting almost-but-not-quite lynched which is never a good sign
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Sep 16, 2017 00:06
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Jonathan Fisk posted:incidentally, kasumeat claimed to believe i was doctor because he rolecopped me Wait where? I missed this. Anyway, I thought Bif's posting was town even though with the presence of a Doctor it was a massively unlikely role. But the flip now raises questions about the entire initial premise. Occam's razor says you're lying, but your play was so similar to the way I'd play Doctor that I'm not sure you actually are and the game is just a little bananas.
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Sep 16, 2017 00:06
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Yorkshire Tea posted:Wait where? I missed this. in our masonchat
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Sep 16, 2017 00:12
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yo goldfish memory people, remember when YT was nearly dunked yesterday but wasn't s c u u u m
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Sep 16, 2017 01:24
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also remember this post-dubkline concern CHeck-inSomberbrero posted:i am really really sorry, i got dragged into doing something with my partner and it took way longer than i expected. s c u i u m #2
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Sep 16, 2017 01:26
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King Burgundy posted:Votecount for Day 2 talking about yt not getting dunked yesterday, there were a ton of players who contributed to that. i own my own part in it, but look at all those sucky votes. even if i had been around to switch it wouldn't have been enough.
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Sep 16, 2017 01:42
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slashie is right
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Sep 16, 2017 01:52
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King Burgundy posted:Hey Hal. So Bif was town. Now what? Yeah that was demoralizing. I'm going to blame my general exhaustion but I'm going to overcome that and with the help of my new mason partner I'm gonna crack this thing wide open
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Sep 16, 2017 02:43
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Oy I ain't forgetting YT. What happened at the end of the day to cause him to avoid an execution?
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Sep 16, 2017 04:31
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CCKeane posted:Oy I ain't forgetting YT. What happened at the end of the day to cause him to avoid an execution? No one showed up really. But here are the votes that weren't on him: Hal Incandenza (2): Kasumeat, Somberbrero King Burgundy (2): Hal Incandenza, Jonathan Fisk Kasumeat (1): Retro Futurist Not Voting (2): chaoslord, Yorkshire Tea Kasu probably scum, and didn't show to move or anything. Somber was here and would theoretically have moved back to YT but he got distracted. Hal was convinced YT was town and that the scum were Bif, Me, and RF Fisk was on Somber and then was convinced I was the scum. Wasn't interested in voting Kasu or YT. RF, I dunno if he woulda swapped. But he didn't show. Chaos didn't show. (All he's done so far today so far also is to ask RF why Kasu, with no opinions of his own this day phase) YT didn't want to vote anyone I guess. Obviously wouldn't vote for himself, but apparently not interested in getting anyone else voted either.
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Sep 16, 2017 04:56
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I would swapped. More on principle than anything but YT is definitely on my scum short list
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Sep 16, 2017 05:09
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It's suspicious as hell to me that YT was the vote leader, didn't get dunked, and today's conversation starts with talk on Kasu. I really don't like that.
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Sep 16, 2017 05:17
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CCKeane posted:It's suspicious as hell to me that YT was the vote leader, didn't get dunked, and today's conversation starts with talk on Kasu. I really don't like that. I could still easily go that way today. Feel free to drop a vote and get things started.
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Jonathan Fisk posted:incidentally, kasumeat claimed to believe i was doctor because he rolecopped me What's my motivation for telling you this if I'm scum? You didn't question me at all, I dropped it totally unprompted. It's a predominantly scummy role so there's a big risk in doing so. For what gain? King Burgundy posted:No one showed up really. But here are the votes that weren't on him: As I explained, I was at work. I work in restaurants, so 9:30 PM is like the worst imaginable deadline for me. I've never have and never will lie about IRL things for mafia purposes, even as scum.
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CCKeane posted:It's suspicious as hell to me that YT was the vote leader, didn't get dunked, and today's conversation starts with talk on Kasu. I really don't like that. I was the vote leader because it was noted d1 that I tried to case instead of just being silent. I explained that it was because I got Hal and was trying to play as him. The vote died because there's nothing on me beyond that. I didn't vote yesterday because the only person with traction was myself by the end of the day.
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