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Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

lurksion posted:

Apparently the way to make money with mods is through Sims porn
https://www.patreon.com/wickedwoohoo

small time

https://www.patreon.com/monstergirlisland

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The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
Isn't there some bestiality hentai porn game that's making something crazy like 20-30 grand a month too?

lurksion
Mar 21, 2013
Huh. Not mods though. But yeah. 30k/month wtf.

Magmarashi
May 20, 2009





The Iron Rose posted:

Isn't there some bestiality hentai porn game that's making something crazy like 20-30 grand a month too?

poo poo, wish I could pull that sorta dosh in for wild smut. The American Dream.

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER

The Iron Rose posted:

Isn't there some bestiality hentai porn game that's making something crazy like 20-30 grand a month too?

Technically not bestiality, I guess?

Kokoro Wish
Jul 23, 2007

Post? What post? Oh wow.
I had nothing to do with THAT.
I think that game failed at some point. Internal drama about the lead being lovely, stretching out the project through laziness and farming money, which had an artist pull all artwork and walk out.

To be clear I meant Breeding Season.

Kokoro Wish fucked around with this message at 01:05 on Sep 23, 2017

Brainamp
Sep 4, 2011

More Zen than Zenyatta

There's also corruption of champions, but that catered to the furry crowd which is apparently the biggest source of internet money possible.

Bieeanshee
Aug 21, 2000

Not keen on keening.


Grimey Drawer
Furries have terrible decision making faculties, impulse control, and tend to obsess. They're a fountain of cash.

Kokoro Wish
Jul 23, 2007

Post? What post? Oh wow.
I had nothing to do with THAT.
There's also one called Paraphore which is apparently really, really, REALLY hosed up.

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

aniviron posted:

That's what I've said from the start, and obviously that guy realizes it but isn't admitting it to himself: Modding is not and should not be a job. If you want a job making video games, then... that job already exists, in many forms. Go join a studio or start your own indie outfit. If you want to be paid to make video games, that is how you do that. The whole point of modding is that it's a labor of love, something you do because you don't want the process to be a job.

With Steam and all the middleware available these days, has it honestly ever been simpler to become a game developer?

bebaloorpabopalo
Nov 23, 2005

I'm not interested in constructive criticism, believe me.

Agents are GO! posted:

With Steam and all the middleware available these days, has it honestly ever been simpler to become a game developer?

You could probably make an argument it was simpler in the 80s after the arcade/console market crashed and a lot of the scene was one-person or small teams making games for 8-bit home computers. Games were obviously much less complicated then, and the harder part was distribution or marketing. Now games are more complicated but there are a lot more resources and frameworks to build on, and distribution and marketing are cheaper/easier than ever. The barrier now is just the pure saturation of garbage, it's harder to get noticed unless you pass a barrier of quality that is probably higher than it should be, but was constructed because the deluge of crap is not worth wading through.

Guy Mann
Mar 28, 2016

by Lowtax

Kokoro Wish posted:

There's also one called Paraphore which is apparently really, really, REALLY hosed up.

People with vanilla tastes don't have to pay for porn because there's an infinite amount of content of attractive people having sex out there so its only the really weird and extreme stuff that is rare enough that people are willing to pay for it. It's the same principle that leads to that cottage industry of journalistm dedicated to scaremongering about how peoples' sexualities are being hosed up by the internet, all the data is skewed heavily by the fact that normal people aren't punching "BIG BREAST" into google.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

bebaloorpabopalo posted:

You could probably make an argument it was simpler in the 80s after the arcade/console market crashed and a lot of the scene was one-person or small teams making games for 8-bit home computers. Games were obviously much less complicated then, and the harder part was distribution or marketing. Now games are more complicated but there are a lot more resources and frameworks to build on, and distribution and marketing are cheaper/easier than ever. The barrier now is just the pure saturation of garbage, it's harder to get noticed unless you pass a barrier of quality that is probably higher than it should be, but was constructed because the deluge of crap is not worth wading through.

Nah that's bull though. Actually making a good game was still quite difficult, you just had some regions of the world where you could earn a few thousand bucks getting your terrible broken game shoved on cassette tapes for idiot kids to pay way too much for. And there was so so much garbage that people just pretended it was actually just Real Game Difficulty and it was super difficult to find good games because a) reviewer stockholm syndrome that bad games were actually real good b) reviewers being straight up paid off and c) even if you had access to real reviews and stuff, you'd probably not have access to the good games because cassette distro issues were crazy.

Basically like the European home computer scene was the equivalent of all the spam partially working games that get poo poo onto Steam every hour.

Guy Mann
Mar 28, 2016

by Lowtax

fishmech posted:

Nah that's bull though. Actually making a good game was still quite difficult, you just had some regions of the world where you could earn a few thousand bucks getting your terrible broken game shoved on cassette tapes for idiot kids to pay way too much for. And there was so so much garbage that people just pretended it was actually just Real Game Difficulty and it was super difficult to find good games because a) reviewer stockholm syndrome that bad games were actually real good b) reviewers being straight up paid off and c) even if you had access to real reviews and stuff, you'd probably not have access to the good games because cassette distro issues were crazy.

Basically like the European home computer scene was the equivalent of all the spam partially working games that get poo poo onto Steam every hour.

As an American that whole microcomputer fad was a total blind spot for me but Ashens did a presentation on terrible games of that era that does a great job illustrating was a wasteland it could be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Shmi76Pax8

He also did a companion video about the hidden treasure puzzlebook phenomena Masquerade and its PC game successor Hareraiser which is also quite good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouvi-fwrfIY

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

bebaloorpabopalo posted:

You could probably make an argument it was simpler in the 80s after the arcade/console market crashed and a lot of the scene was one-person or small teams making games for 8-bit home computers. Games were obviously much less complicated then, and the harder part was distribution or marketing. Now games are more complicated but there are a lot more resources and frameworks to build on, and distribution and marketing are cheaper/easier than ever. The barrier now is just the pure saturation of garbage, it's harder to get noticed unless you pass a barrier of quality that is probably higher than it should be, but was constructed because the deluge of crap is not worth wading through.

You'll note I didn't say "successful game developer."

poo poo, I have two game development softwares on my system right now, and two of my favorite games were made in GameMaker (Undertale and Nuclear Throne.)

Archonex
May 2, 2012

MY OPINION IS SEERS OF THE THRONE PROPAGANDA IGNORE MY GNOSIS-IMPAIRED RAMBLINGS

The Kins posted:

What a horrible night to rip and tear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvzan3IQoac

Oh my god. It even has the wall meat.

Shoehead
Sep 28, 2005

Wassup, Choom?
Ya need sumthin'?

Kokoro Wish posted:

I think that game failed at some point. Internal drama about the lead being lovely, stretching out the project through laziness and farming money, which had an artist pull all artwork and walk out.

To be clear I meant Breeding Season.

Oh yeah I've been a huge fan of the lead artist since way back and got to watch this explode in realtime on Tumblr. Old game was Monster Rancher but with sex, he's been putting together another game with the assets he walked out with which seems like Fire Emblem? but with sex?
It seems like a weird thing to waste your talent on but I guess I can't argue with their patreon takings. They are making bank

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




Why do furries always have so much loving money to throw around?

If pretending to be a dog trapped in a human body would net me the same kind of disposable income then sign me the gently caress up

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

History Comes Inside! posted:

Why do furries always have so much loving money to throw around?

If pretending to be a dog trapped in a human body would net me the same kind of disposable income then sign me the gently caress up

Guy Mann posted:

People with vanilla tastes don't have to pay for porn because there's an infinite amount of content of attractive people having sex out there so its only the really weird and extreme stuff that is rare enough that people are willing to pay for it. It's the same principle that leads to that cottage industry of journalistm dedicated to scaremongering about how peoples' sexualities are being hosed up by the internet, all the data is skewed heavily by the fact that normal people aren't punching "BIG BREAST" into google.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007
Seriously, don't foodshame. I like my chicken not too bony!

Guy Mann
Mar 28, 2016

by Lowtax

Furries are also a fairly unique case in that they have fursonas so there's a constant demand for new artwork from them. NYMag did an article about how furries are such a boon to independent artists awhile ago which is a pretty interesting read.

quote:

writer and self-described furry community historian Colin Spacetwinks

Guy Mann fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Sep 23, 2017

Aithon
Jan 3, 2014

Every puzzle has an answer.

Guy Mann posted:

Furries are also a fairly unique case in that they have fursonas so there's a constant demand for new artwork from them. NYMag did an article about how furries are such a boon to independent artists awhile ago which is a pretty interesting read.

That's a good read, it's great to see artists being needed and respected like this! Colin's a cool person too, I've stumbled onto their twitter a while back.

Lunethex
Feb 4, 2013

Me llamo Sarah Brandolino, the eighth Castilian of this magnificent marriage.
If you can't find exactly what you want without paying for it I don't think you're looking hard enough.

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Lunethex posted:

If you can't find exactly what you want without paying for it I don't think you're looking hard enough.

Or youre too hard to look

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

The Iron Rose posted:

Isn't there some bestiality hentai porn game that's making something crazy like 20-30 grand a month too?

You are probably thinking of https://www.patreon.com/user?u=121401

Nearly $32k per month.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

The Kins posted:

What a horrible night to rip and tear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvzan3IQoac

:stare:

Someone needs to tell Joel of Vinesauce about that. Goddamn.

Shady Amish Terror
Oct 11, 2007
I'm not Amish by choice. 8(

Lunethex posted:

If you can't find exactly what you want without paying for it I don't think you're looking hard enough.

You are seriously underestimating either or both of the eccentricity of some peoples' tastes, and the sheer voraciousness with which some people consume content. I mean, there's a reason there's that old definition of economics as 'satisfying unlimited desires with limited resources'. A lot of people, once they find that exact thing that they want, then want a hell of a lot more of it


History Comes Inside! posted:

Why do furries always have so much loving money to throw around?

If pretending to be a dog trapped in a human body would net me the same kind of disposable income then sign me the gently caress up

Oh there's PLENTY of broke furries. You hear about the rich ones because it's so uniquely visible; people who own millions of dollars in old cars doesn't seem that weird, even though from a strictly economic, rational point of view that's still incredibly loving excessive. When you add in the weirdness of 'here have this highly visible stream of thousands of dollars in weird fetish commissions each month', it unsurprisingly becomes kind of infamous. Furries also seem to be kind of bad with money in general, probably because it's a weird sub-culture that sort of encourages you to be, and I'm going to go out on a limb and say the average person is probably bad with money already before getting tangled up in a weird subculture where status is tied to how large a pile of fetish art you can accrue.

To bring this whole sordid aside back around to where it started, I have no objection to people being paid for doing mod work, but with the wealth of resources available for game creation it seems more sensible to just make your own game these days. The surprising number of weird dating games/interactive fictions/incredibly disturbing rpgs pulling in five figures a month seems to reinforce the point.

Magmarashi
May 20, 2009





Aithon posted:

That's a good read, it's great to see artists being needed and respected like this! Colin's a cool person too, I've stumbled onto their twitter a while back.

I'm annoyed that I didn't come up with the name 'Colin Spacetwinks' first

Bieeanshee
Aug 21, 2000

Not keen on keening.


Grimey Drawer
I came across a post by a furry who apparently lived out of long-term rental hotel rooms or something. He was out of money, needed help to keep himself from being kicked out, not an unusual story... until someone turned it into an intervention.

This second person revealed that Mr. Brokeass was broke because he is constantly commissioning art of his character(s). People have given him money in the past, and it's gone straight to eBay or Furbid, and basically all that he owns are a few changes of clothes and half a dozen suitcases packed to the gills with the art that he'd bought over the years.

Sinestro
Oct 31, 2010

The perfect day needs the perfect set of wheels.

Kokoro Wish posted:

There's also one called Paraphore which is apparently really, really, REALLY hosed up.

I used to play random lovely porn flash games with a friend to laugh at them.

This is the game that ended it, right around the time that :nms: that we were given the option to eat our choice of body part from a dead toddler :nws:. Which is actually a shame, because some of the stuff that wasn't porn was actually pretty interesting. Like, I wish that those people would make a game that wasn't horrifying porn.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Bieeardo posted:

I came across a post by a furry who apparently lived out of long-term rental hotel rooms or something. He was out of money, needed help to keep himself from being kicked out, not an unusual story... until someone turned it into an intervention.

This second person revealed that Mr. Brokeass was broke because he is constantly commissioning art of his character(s). People have given him money in the past, and it's gone straight to eBay or Furbid, and basically all that he owns are a few changes of clothes and half a dozen suitcases packed to the gills with the art that he'd bought over the years.

Well hey at least the money was going to a good place in the end.

marathon Stairmaster sesh
Apr 28, 2009

ALL HAIL CEO NUGGET
1988-PRESENT

I don't feel like crossposting it in the obvious thread but we should change the thread name to "The Awful/Awesome/Wierd Mod Showcase: We've gone beyond horse armor"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e02by6SMsVM

Thefluffy
Sep 7, 2014

Sinestro posted:

I used to play random lovely porn flash games with a friend to laugh at them.

This is the game that ended it, right around the time that :nms: that we were given the option to eat our choice of body part from a dead toddler :nws:. Which is actually a shame, because some of the stuff that wasn't porn was actually pretty interesting. Like, I wish that those people would make a game that wasn't horrifying porn.

autism is a hell of a drug

m2pt5
May 18, 2005

THAT GOD DAMN MOSQUITO JUST KEEPS COMING BACK
Oh god, Crimes Against Nature updated.

Now, among other things, you can play Skyrim as a Snoo. (The reddit mascot character.)

Edit: Also SANIC, Dovahbear, and a chair.

m2pt5 fucked around with this message at 09:23 on Sep 24, 2017

Dragonwagon
Mar 28, 2010


And that, as much as anything else, led to my drinking problem.
Pretty sure the chair isn't new.

Also, it's not even the best chair player mod. This is the best one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt65QPLZof4

Bieeanshee
Aug 21, 2000

Not keen on keening.


Grimey Drawer

Dragonwagon posted:

Pretty sure the chair isn't new.

Also, it's not even the best chair player mod. This is the best one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt65QPLZof4

This reminds me of an old, old Doctor Who serial. The effects are a bit better though.

Gynovore
Jun 17, 2009

Forget your RoboCoX or your StickyCoX or your EvilCoX, MY CoX has Blinking Bewbs!

WHY IS THIS GAME DEAD?!

Bieeardo posted:

This reminds me of an old, old Doctor Who serial. The effects are a bit better though.

The one with the Master and his Beanbag of Doom?

Bieeanshee
Aug 21, 2000

Not keen on keening.


Grimey Drawer
I was thinking of Tom Baker versus Vampire Stonehenge, but that one's definitely a better match.

Gynovore
Jun 17, 2009

Forget your RoboCoX or your StickyCoX or your EvilCoX, MY CoX has Blinking Bewbs!

WHY IS THIS GAME DEAD?!

Bieeardo posted:

I was thinking of Tom Baker versus Vampire Stonehenge, but that one's definitely a better match.

Oh God I remember watching that episode at like age ten or something, and thinking 'how the gently caress can rocks that move slower than a constipated turtle be a threat to anyone?"

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Guy Mann
Mar 28, 2016

by Lowtax
In the overlapping center of the venn diagram of people who are dedicated enough to make an X-COM total conversion and yet lacking in restraint to the point where the whole thing is full of cartoon porn and sexy lady pirates, you get X-Piratez.







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