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Well he appears to be a prior enlisted who is now at West Point, so apparently his arcom, Afghan deployment, and time spent at air assault and airborne just whetted his appetite for getting hosed by the army. Which would be the only explanation for how he can get away with that haircut.
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Zeris posted:Well he appears to be a prior enlisted who is now at West Point, so apparently his arcom, Afghan deployment, and time spent at air assault and airborne just whetted his appetite for getting hosed by the army. Which would be the only explanation for how he can get away with that haircut. You have to admire someone who went E-O by getting into West Point and was completely out of fucks by then. e: He was commissioned in 2016 and definitely gives no fucks. quote:Following the events in Charlottesville, Virginia in which a united left of socialists and anarchists pushed back the fascist menace that murdered Heather Heyer, a groundswell of emancipatory activity continues to grow. The toppling of the Confederate Soldiers Memorial in Durham, North Carolina has sounded the death knell for any and all displays of Confederate aggrandizement in the United States as well as abroad. Yet, the shadow of the Confederacy and its efforts to preserve slavery is not limited to the southern United States. From Seattle to Pennsylvania, the embodiment of white supremacy and racial violence against black people can be found just around the corner. But in this piece, I would like to focus on a specific place that preserves the Confederate legacy not often-discussed: my alma mater, the United States Military Academy. In every corner of West Point, New York, one can readily discover white supremacist iconography and visual rhetoric. There are some that stand out more than others. As we shall see, these sordid displays of the worst aspects of American history reify a profoundly racist culture that has existed since the inception of this country. In military parlance, my task here is to raise consciousness through the identification of these various memorials, tributes, and pieces of art; my purpose, however, is for these vile displays of racial oppression to be cast into the dustbin of history once and for all. Stultus Maximus fucked around with this message at 00:57 on Sep 26, 2017 |
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Sep 26, 2017 00:53
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If he causes even one of his Breitbart reading peers to have an aneurysm it'll have been worth it.
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Sep 26, 2017 00:55
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Stultus Maximus posted:You have to admire someone who went E-O by getting into West Point and was completely out of fucks by then. That’s going to be a very long 5-year active duty commitment if his clearance investigator knows how to google and doesn’t have a sense of humor.
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Sep 26, 2017 00:55
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What branch doesn't require at least a secret? Quartermaster?
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Sep 26, 2017 01:01
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Everything about this is hilarious
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Sep 26, 2017 01:05
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I really want him to get stationed at the School of the Americas.
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Sep 26, 2017 03:30
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Syrian Lannister posted:What branch doesn't require at least a secret? All Os require at least a secret last I looked. Those pictures are just  levels of stupidity.
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Sep 26, 2017 03:36
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DoktorLoken posted:All Os require at least a secret last I looked. Those pictures are just LOL loving Neidermeyer Here's our commander in chief https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/632948326720253952 Syrian Lannister fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Sep 26, 2017 |
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Sep 26, 2017 03:51
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Syrian Lannister posted:What branch doesn't require at least a secret? If your clearance gets yanked you can get a do nothing job. When the Army doesn't like an O they shove him in a closet and take him for PT tests twice a year until they get passed over for promotion twice.
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Sep 26, 2017 04:13
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I don't think they can deny a clearance for express socialist or communist sympathies
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Sep 26, 2017 04:25
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but surely they'll just process him out in some way, that UCMJ article about conduct unbecoming or w/e, that means, well, you can get hosed for anything lol
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Deathy McDeath posted:I don't think they can deny a clearance for express socialist or communist sympathies I will defer to your expertise on the SF86. Thank god #Notallcommunists want to overthrow the government. And it appears since he was commissioned a year ago, history has proved Deathy correct.
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Sep 26, 2017 04:38
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I'd take more issue with the fact that he's making overt political statements in uniform.
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Sep 26, 2017 05:09
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DoktorLoken posted:I'd take more issue with the fact that he's making overt political statements in uniform. drat that's a dumb rear end uniform though
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Sep 26, 2017 05:22
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Service academies love dressing cadets in dumb caricatures of old-timey uniforms for some reason. Probably kickbacks to uniform companies.
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tastefully arranged labia posted:If your clearance gets yanked you can get a do nothing job. When the Army doesn't like an O they shove him in a closet and take him for PT tests twice a year until they get passed over for promotion twice. The chief of loving naval intelligence didn't have a clearance for like two years.
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Sep 26, 2017 05:52
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Godholio posted:The chief of loving naval intelligence didn't have a clearance for like two years. Wasn't that the Capt. from Carrier?
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Pesticide20 posted:drat that's a dumb rear end uniform though Yeah I don't think it counts as an official military uniform either right? Ugh service academies are garbage.
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Sep 26, 2017 21:28
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AFAIK service academy cadets fall under UCMJ so who knows.
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WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:Yeah I don't think it counts as an official military uniform either right? It most certainly does.
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Sep 26, 2017 22:20
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Godholio posted:The chief of loving naval intelligence didn't have a clearance for like two years. I thought about him recently, what happened to him? Did he get a clearance or what?
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Sep 26, 2017 22:22
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Retired in 2016, was never charged in his corruption case, however was also never cleared according to WAPO
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Sep 26, 2017 22:25
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Godholio posted:It most certainly does. Gross
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Sep 26, 2017 22:51
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“We can’t allow civilian courts to prosecute rapists in the military because it sets a precedent” “Angry civilians suddenly noticed stupid cadet antics from years ago? We’re on the case!”
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Zeris posted:“We can’t allow civilian courts to prosecute rapists in the military because it sets a precedent” We do allow civilian courts to prosecute rapists if they have jurisdiction. And then if civilian courts refuse, military can pursue it. You probably know this, but it's one of those things that gets massively misrepresented all the time by people who either do know better and don't care if they lie about it or absolutely should know better.
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suboptimal posted:https://www.usma.edu/news/Shared%20Documents/Response%20to%20Social%20Media%20Posts%20by%20USMA%20Graduate.pdf 
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Zeris posted:“We can’t allow civilian courts to prosecute rapists in the military because it sets a precedent” Was this a thing? I don't remember anything like this.
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Godholio posted:Was this a thing? I don't remember anything like this. Not as stated. What has come up a few times and not been passed thus far, is the idea that rape/sexual assault should be 100% removed from the purview of the UCMJ and placed strictly into civilian courts. My view of pros/cons: Pros: -If you've got an insanely corrupt chain of command, they can't look at solid evidence and say "nah, I don't wanna pursue that." This happened a few times in the past. But now people read "commander discretion" and think some captain with 4 years in is making that call, when in reality that stuff is all held at the CG level and my experience is that they'd rather try a rough case and lose than not try a case. Now, in a case where it was clear the person had mental health issues (claimed to be raped by an NCO, then the MPs the soldier reported it to, then the doctor who examined the soldier, then some random civilian who was never alone with the soldier), charges aren't pressed. -Optics of saying military members have the same representation as civilians Cons: -It's been my anecdotal experience that CID will put a shitload of time and effort into a more minor case, such as an unwanted slap on the rear end, compared to what we'd see from local cops. -Where I last commanded, local cops were very quick to go "gently caress it" and stop investigating if there was any kind of alcohol involved, unless there was also a minor involved or it was a knock-down dragout violent assault rape from a stranger. Something like 2 out of 3 rape convictions landed at that post had been passed up by local PD/DAs. Cue someone saying this is a bad witch-hunt without evidence. The cases I saw weren't, really, but I'm not a lawyer. -Local law varies, and it works for UCMJ to have one standard rule. There's no state where rape is legal, but, right or wrong, the UCMJ has decided that taking photo/video of someone who reasonably could expect privacy, while undressed (underwear or less), is a sex crime. Not all states do last I checked. This gives commands the ability to wreck someone who's a peeping tom or secretly films their sexual plights or roommates. However, it also means that if the commanders have some leeway. Let's say there's concrete evidence that, say, a new trainee roommate took a photo of someone in their opaque underwear, and that CID evaluation of the phone showed that it definitely happened, but was not habitual, and there were no nudes. By letter of law, could've made that person a sex offender for life and their home state has some brutal rules about sex offenders. Instead, the command, from company to BN to BDE to CG, collectively came to the conclusion that we should just scare the poo poo out of this person by making clear just how much we could have ruined their whole life, and then we kicked them out of the army and sent them home without a lifelong, no-redress sex offender status. So I guess I'm on some list of people who didn't process a charge we could have nailed down easily. edit to add: -Just look at the college status of sexual assault/rape. For gently caress's sake. -The military (Army at least) now has special victim counsels (lawyers) who can directly work the legal system to help victims, outside of the actual case. We had someone show up essnetially unannounced from another unit, placed on "do not gently caress with this person at all" status, and sent home in the course of like 72 hours. I called my JAG, because it looked like shady poo poo or a coverup, but my JAG was able contact the special victim counsel, who cleared up that this is what the victim wanted, and they were done with the Army and going home RIGHT NOW while the perpetrator awaited trial. Probably more, but that was a lot of typing. mlmp08 fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Sep 27, 2017 |
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mlmp08 posted:It's been my anecdotal experience that CID will put a shitload of time and effort into a more minor case, such as an unwanted slap on the rear end, compared to what we'd see from local cops. It's been my anecdotal experience that CID couldn't find their own rear end with two hands and a map. During their investigation into my wife's death, I told the investigating agent that I had told her it was okay if she quit her job because I know how much she hated it. The report stated that I said that I had quit my job.
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McNally posted:It's been my anecdotal experience that CID couldn't find their own rear end with two hands and a map. During their investigation into my wife's death, I told the investigating agent that I had told her it was okay if she quit her job because I know how much she hated it. The report stated that I said that I had quit my job. I've also heard from JAGs that CIDs vary by post/command quite a lot. Everything I saw from CID on that base was extremely well organized, thorough, and very good at getting poo poo done while keeping commands out of it as much as necessary. The MPs, on the other hand, oh boy........... Thanks, Mr. Civilian MP for wandering into a barracks and basically telling the suicidal dude that if he doesn't just man up, the MPs will jail him and insinuate that they'd beat his rear end or worse. Now please get the gently caress out of my barracks, we'll handle this ourselves now.
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yes. YES. - m bison
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suboptimal posted:https://twitter.com/JimLaPorta/status/912791217158713344 Well he's hosed.
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tastefully arranged labia posted:Well he's hosed. There are probably a lot of informal ways to gently caress with him, but so far his violations include things like "wore uniform wrong" or "made political statement in uniform." Being a communist is not illegal. But it's probably pretty easy if they want to strip clearance and trust while they investigate him and just put him on every lovely little detail and crummy OPORD. He's gonna get real good at coordinating command inspections, safety days, and the ball!
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