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For the record, I'm a hero. I have no idea why Kashuno is so fixated on the multiple alignments.
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Kashuno posted:Real simple
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Kashuno posted:Yes, I do think Jimson would act that way with a scum team relying on him. Jimson has, in the past, scumclaimed on day 1 and outed his entire scum team. That means nothing. Where I answered you directly
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Sep 28, 2017 21:38
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Point to where I’m interested in defending Jimson
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Sep 28, 2017 21:39
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Kashuno posted:Point to where I’m interested in defending Jimson Ask him? I was just translating.
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Sep 28, 2017 21:40
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Max posted:
Jimson showed up with that weird PPM complaint and it was lazy cause he obviously hadn't read enough, but at least it was an attempt at a case, which we could easily prove wrong. Mord is even worse because he just shows up to talk about lurker lunches.
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Really, any time someone says that "woah nelly, that is a lot of votes all of the sudden, how suspicious" thing, they are defending them, even if they don't mean it that way.
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CCKeane posted:I feel like the last 5 pages are nonsense. Yes, I read them. I think he's maybe just a little-too-aggressive town, or at least I'd like to believe he's town, so I'm not going to bother voting for him d1.
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Sep 28, 2017 21:41
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woah nelly that is a lot of votes all of a sudden how suspicious
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Sep 28, 2017 21:41
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please dont hurt jimmy hes just misunderstood 
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King Burgundy posted:Really, any time someone says that "woah nelly, that is a lot of votes all of the sudden, how suspicious" thing, they are defending them, even if they don't mean it that way.  It's not directly shifting the blame, but leaving the door wide open for someone else to
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So you don't like his lack of trying or his drive-by vote of YT. And this is different from my own stated opinions how?
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Bifauxnen posted:Jimson showed up with that weird PPM complaint and it was lazy cause he obviously hadn't read enough, but at least it was an attempt at a case, which we could easily prove wrong. You're missing the second part of the case and uh, I would not characterize what Jimson was doing as attempting anything.
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flerp posted:please dont hurt jimmy hes just misunderstood I'm going to cast reraise on him just so we can murder him again later.
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Sep 28, 2017 21:43
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Maybe I’m being too overly focused on multiple alignments, I don’t know really how to work in this space. I think I was scum in every other ff games? Idr 5 very well but that was insanity anyway. Idk how to really reconcile “I think someone is scum” with “I think this person is also scum but not the same kind”
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Sep 28, 2017 21:43
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GulagDolls posted:I'm going to cast reraise on him just so we can murder him again later. at least jimjam will come back
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Sep 28, 2017 21:43
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Tobbs just explain to me how showing Jimson would do something as scum makes it suddenly not the laziest vote
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Sep 28, 2017 21:44
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Max posted:You're missing the second part of the case and uh, I would not characterize what Jimson was doing as attempting anything. Second part of the case? Can I get a quick tl;dr? I don't have anything against lunching Jimson btw, just wanted to see if Mord was also an option cause I think he's worse
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flerp posted:i had a big post about all of my reads but it got tedious so ill give summaries I just caught this going back through flerps posts.
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Sep 28, 2017 21:47
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Kashuno posted:Tobbs just explain to me how showing Jimson would do something as scum makes it suddenly not the laziest vote I know you're feeling overly antagonistic and you're probably feeling some cognitive dissonance, but Jimson's play was so bad I couldn't believe he'd play that way on a scum team. Providing an example of him doing just that removed the only barrier I had to believing he was scum. You convinced me, it shouldn't be so surprising. I already wasn't too keen on him, especially after he went after me right out of the gate on an absolutely terrible case. I honestly don't understand why you're so hung up on this. If you think I'm scum and are suspicious of me for agreeing with you, let it go. I'm town.
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Sep 28, 2017 21:50
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Mithross posted:I just caught this going back through flerps posts. He and Jimson are lovers in every game forever I’ll back off my suspicions of people on the Jimson lynch for now. It’s hard for me to tone it down because on a regular lynch I can see a couple things that look off to me, whereas in this game I can’t assume ANYONE is arguing in good faith, because even if they are they may not be town aligned. Sorry yall
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Sep 28, 2017 21:51
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Sep 28, 2017 21:53
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Kashuno posted:He and Jimson are lovers in every game forever
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Sep 28, 2017 21:53
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Kashuno posted:He and Jimson are lovers in every game forever oh ok that makes more sense I guess? I didn't realize I was intruding on a private thing here
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Sep 28, 2017 21:53
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Kashuno posted:Jeez asiina I’m sorry I asked you the same question so many times Tobbs is asking me the same thing I’ve stated over and over and it’s piss ty
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Votecount for Day 1  JimsonTheBetrayer (8): Max, Kashuno, Flying Leatherman, Poque, Xad, GulagDolls, Tobbs Gnawed, Tired Moritz Yorkshire Tea (3): garthoneeye, Mithross, GulagDolls, JimsonTheBetrayer, Tired Moritz, garthoneeye (2): BottleKnight, King Burgundy, Xad, b-minus1 (2): Poque, Asiina, Little Mac (1): Tobbs Gnawed, Hal Incandenza (1): Kashuno, flerp, Max, Asiina, Tired Moritz (1): Poque, Bifauxnen, King Burgundy (0): garthoneeye, b-minus1, IllegallySober (0): Max, Mithross (0): Poque, Tobbs Gnawed (0): Murmur Twin, BottleKnight (0): Flying Leatherman, Bifauxnen, Poque (0): Xad, Kashuno (0): flerp, Max (0): JimsonTheBetrayer, Xad (0): GulagDolls, Tobbs Gnawed, Flying Leatherman, flerp (0): GulagDolls, Asiina, IllegallySober, Mordiceius (0): IllegallySober, Asiina (0): Max, Not Voting (8): b-minus1, CCKeane, chaoslord, flerp, Hal Incandenza, Little Mac, vector_to, Yorkshire TeaWith 26 alive, it's 14 votes to execute. The current deadline is September 28th, 2017 at 11 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 6 hours, 5 minutes.
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Sep 28, 2017 21:54
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Still not too late to vote Garth instead! I'll probably swap to Jimson in another hour or so if that doesn't pick up though.
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Sep 28, 2017 21:55
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Both Tobbs and Kash feel pretty town from that whole thing. It definitely reads as a misunderstanding. I would vote for Jimson, but I still agree with KB that it's basically a lurker lynch and let's be real I don't like how Jimson plays and I think the game will be better off without him. I still like b-minus for my vote though. I don't buy his explanation that he was wrong about BK. It's one thing to say someone hasn't done something because you missed where they did it, but to think someone is scummy because they're doing something that they're not at all, that's fabricated not a mistake.
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Oh yeah, and I also think MMT might be scum. She's kinda like me where she's self-conscious to post when she is scum. I don't think I'd want to vote her today, but I am suspicious.
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I’d vote Garth as well. As much as I have a problem with Jimson saying he will engage more and not doing so, I see why people think it may be more of a lurker thingn
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Sep 28, 2017 22:15
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What’s the case on Garth someone download me
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His drive by vote on YT pushed him out of just a lurker lunch in my mind.
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##unvote (didn't realize Glowku's vote stayed on when I subbed in) I've now read everything I missed. Although I can't swear I retained a whole lot of it. Not crazy about the YT votes- I policy-voted him D1 in the last game we were in together for his "no-dunks on D1 are good" stance but don't want to lean on that every game and don't get a strong sense about him either way so far this game. I suppose I could go Jimson if that's what everyone else wants to do. Don't feel great about his play so far. However: [quote="Mordiceius"post="476861919"] With 6 hours, we don't have much time to swing the vote in any new directions. [/quote] In a game with 20+ pages of content on day 1 this post pings the gently caress out of me. Six hours to go before deadline in a 26-player game is an eternity. This feels to me like scum wanting to solidify a choice between non-scum bandwagons and I don't like it at all. ##vote Mordiceius
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Sep 28, 2017 22:54
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Dammit, thought I found the solution to that quote problem, guess not.
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IllegallySober posted:Not crazy about the YT votes- I policy-voted him D1 in the last game we were in together for his "no-dunks on D1 are good" stance but don't want to lean on that every game and don't get a strong sense about him either way so far this game. To be clear I am not voting him because he thinks no dunks on d1 are good. I am voting him because he won't express opinions on other players, regardless of if he wants to lynch today.
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Mithross posted:To be clear I am not voting him because he thinks no dunks on d1 are good. That's fair. Although I guess my point would be if he's dead-set against dunking D1, I'd be surprised if he had strong opinions either way.
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Sep 28, 2017 23:04
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flerp posted:at least jimjam will come back I'll always come back for you baby
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Sep 28, 2017 23:10
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King Burgundy posted:Still not too late to vote Garth instead! Wow way to couch your votes buddy.
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To justify my hardcore poke and Freak out. I am vanilla town. I hate vanilla town it's a lovely roll forever and needs to be put to bed with out a bottle. I wanted to drum up. But if Drama and and see who bites. Max definitely reacted like town what with his freak out and then eventual frustration with me cucking them. Kashuno still reeks of scum for defending me. It's a weird thing to do especially when all the votes levied on me were LYNCH THE LURKER WHO POSTED STUPID poo poo!!! Which is a very town reaction.
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My only goal D1 is to survive to N1 so I can actually play Mafia. If you really want to press me. There's no D1 posting I've seen here that is outside my margin of error for misguided town. I wouldn't vote anyone on that basis. The only time you'll get a D1 vote out of me is if someone is being genuinely unpleasant as a person. (Or if I'm roleplaying as Hal)
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