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Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

fivehead posted:

What is the fake HDR10 thing about? Search did not help

The box overlays everything in "HDR10" basically. This includes movies that are in Dolby Vision (when HDR10 is not an option); it puts a fake HDR overlay over everything and makes it look like poo poo, especially 1080p content.

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Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

qirex posted:

IMO Atmos is mostly useless unless you have a literal dedicated theater room, in a normal living space with furniture and windows and stuff you'll never get the kind of positional accuracy it was designed for. Invest in better main speakers.

While its better in a dedicated room, it works just fine if the speakers are setup correctly. Lacking basic bitstream passthrough is an unacceptable thing in 2017.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

We've Got To Go Back
I hope my next post is not from home, since I just pulled up page 55 on my work computer. Jesus that was a shock.

EngineerJoe
Aug 8, 2004
-=whore=-



Is that hdr or dv?

Dem Bones
Feb 25, 2005
Listen, I didn't face ten long tours against the goddamn 'bots to come back home and lift baby weights.

HairyManling posted:

I was just about to ask if other people were having issues with Netflix after the update, but it seems like you've got other things going on in this thread.

Does Apple use signed updates? Will my AppleTV update if I'm away on vacation?

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

Dem Bones posted:

Does Apple use signed updates? Will my AppleTV update if I'm away on vacation?

I think you can turn automatic updates on/off.

Also, please make sure to order luxury devices while you're on vacation.

ufarn
May 30, 2009

Dem Bones posted:

Does Apple use signed updates? Will my AppleTV update if I'm away on vacation?
For ATV4+ (ie tvOS), apparently: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202716

TraderStav
May 19, 2006

It feels like I was standing my entire life and I just sat down
I don't have an ATV and have only used Plex on my FTV on my local network. Can I give a friend of mine with an ATV my plex login and have him enter it into the ATV Plex app and access my server? He doesn't have a server so it won't default to his.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

Yeah I think that's the whole point of a Plex login. You can use it from wherever. He may destroy your upstream bandwidth depending on your internet connection, however.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



iFixit did a teardown of the Apple TV 4K and gave it an 8/10 for repairability. Only real interesting thing is a new cooling system for the A10X that includes a fan (which was fairly obvious from the holes on the bottom). Points deducted for everything being soldered to the board, but otherwise it's easy to repair with no glue or exotic screws anywhere.

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Apple+TV+4K+Teardown/97511

Endless Mike fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Sep 26, 2017

EngineerJoe
Aug 8, 2004
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TraderStav posted:

I don't have an ATV and have only used Plex on my FTV on my local network. Can I give a friend of mine with an ATV my plex login and have him enter it into the ATV Plex app and access my server? He doesn't have a server so it won't default to his.

He can use his own account to access your plex server (You need to give him access to the specific categories, movies/tv/etc). There's also the ability to limit upstream bandwidth now so that should help. If your system is powerful enough it should be fine because it can transcode to smaller formats.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



EngineerJoe posted:

He can use his own account to access your plex server (You need to give him access to the specific categories, movies/tv/etc). There's also the ability to limit upstream bandwidth now so that should help. If your system is powerful enough it should be fine because it can transcode to smaller formats.

Don't they both need to be PLEXPass users for that?

EngineerJoe
Aug 8, 2004
-=whore=-



Proteus Jones posted:

Don't they both need to be PLEXPass users for that?

Only he (TraderStav) needs to be a PlexPass user.

Which he really should be if he's going to share his server with anyone.
The other user might need it for Appletv? I'm not sure what the situation is there.

Edit: Ok you don't need plex pass for the AppleTV version of Plex.

TraderStav
May 19, 2006

It feels like I was standing my entire life and I just sat down
I am a PlexPass user so should be all good on that. The rig it's on was built for gaming a few years back so should have no problem transcoding. Glad to hear I can limit the upstream bandwidth AND specify access. I haven't played at ALL with sharing the server with others.

Thanks!

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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Yeah definitely don't be handing out your logins.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Anyone else having issues with the Radio in the Music App just sitting at the loading spinner forever? I've tried force quitting and reloading the Music App and restarting the ATV and no love.

fivehead
Jul 11, 2017

Americans Need Cash Now

Auron posted:

The box overlays everything in "HDR10" basically. This includes movies that are in Dolby Vision (when HDR10 is not an option); it puts a fake HDR overlay over everything and makes it look like poo poo, especially 1080p content.

what the gently caress

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

fivehead posted:

what the gently caress

yeah pretty much. The only way to avoid this is to MANUALLY switch the display to 1080pSDR

Anyways, curiosity got the best of me and I picked up a 32GB ATV 4K last night and did a comparison between the 4K Bluray and 4K iTunes verions of Transformers: The Last Knight and was very impressed by the picture quality of the digital version. I had a really really hard time noticing the differences except for very minor artifacting in dark scenes and minor judder in some of the action scenes, both which are kind of expected from streaming at 60hz. I manually changed the output to 24hz and it seemed to help a little bit from what I could tell, but also made the menu poo poo. This is a Dolby Vision movie, and I only have a HDR10 set (KS8000); whether or not there is an actual HDR10 encoding being sent with the lack of DV, or its Apples HDR10 "overlay", whatever it is did a good job.

The only glaring issue that got me is the lack of HD sound/Atmos in the stream. I have a 5.2.2 setup and Atmos track in this movie is on point right from the opening Parmount graphics. If you only have a 2 channel or 5.1 setup, its still a very good sounding track in Dolby Digital (like all Transformers movies).

Great job by Apple with their 4k PQ. The best part of this is being able to purchase somebodies Bluray code for a couple bucks and having a full fledged 4k movie (minus HD sounds) at no extra cost. Big action hits I'll still be purchasing the discs for Atmos, but will definitely be using this for everything else.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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It'd be interesting to log data transfer on your router at the start of the movie, and then again at the end to see roughly how big the stream is. Naturally there'll be some error margin, but it's a start.

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

EL BROMANCE posted:

It'd be interesting to log data transfer on your router at the start of the movie, and then again at the end to see roughly how big the stream is. Naturally there'll be some error margin, but it's a start.

There's been a few people over on Bluray.com and AVS forums that are showing 25-30 Mb streams, with up to 35 Mb in certain action scenes. So its actually a step above everyone else's 4k streams.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
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Yeah that's really not bad at all for a streaming service. Sure beats the 1080p fiasco that I'm sure will never get resolved.

EngineerJoe
Aug 8, 2004
-=whore=-



EL BROMANCE posted:

Yeah that's really not bad at all for a streaming service. Sure beats the 1080p fiasco that I'm sure will never get resolved.

What fiasco is this?

ufarn
May 30, 2009

EngineerJoe posted:

What fiasco is this?
Probably the crappy upscaling they subject 1080p video to, not to mention the added HDR.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
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There's that too, but it's more that the 1080p video on iTMS uses a 'more efficient' codec that ends up looking no better, if not worse, than their 720p video.

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

yeah I went in with low expectations based off their 1080 GARBAGE. I'm pleasantly surprised and may actually keep this thing, only because its so cheap/easy to get 4k content by buying people's codes.

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

Has anyone noticed the reduce loud sounds setting not working as well after the last update on the ATV4? I might be crazy or experiencing my stupid Sony soundbar freaking out for the millionth time but I feel like it's not keeping the sound as consistent as it used to.

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:
Man this is a pretty nice piece of hardware and software. I understand some people don't like the included controller? Feels pretty smooth and intuitive.
What are some good games to get on this and what's the preferred controller method

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007
I've never played them but I believe the remastered Sonic games are available as well as Ducktales.

sellouts
Apr 23, 2003

Yeah I'm pretty impressed with the dictation for passwords.

If I login at my mom's place and allow location data, but my wife is watching at home, is that going to piss off DirecTV?

Edit: No auto switching between HDR and SDR....c'mon. The Xbox One S can do this..

sellouts fucked around with this message at 03:05 on Oct 1, 2017

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:
Is there a way to put the TV to sleep with a button press instead of having to go to the settings menu?

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Long-press the TV button IIRC.

Drastic Actions
Apr 7, 2009

FUCK YOU!
GET PUMPED!
Nap Ghost

Calaveron posted:

Is there a way to put the TV to sleep with a button press instead of having to go to the settings menu?

Hold down the TV button, it should pop up a menu asking if you want it to go to sleep.

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

Well after playing around with this thing for awhile, I think I'm going to return it. Too many nagging issues that are becoming large annoyances in the long run. I have to say though, TV OS is by far the best streaming box interface I've had the pleasure of dealing with, followed by the Shield TV.

fivehead
Jul 11, 2017

Americans Need Cash Now
Giving the 4K model it's maiden voyage with Ghost in the shell on a Samsung KS8000. Is it just me... or is the interface laggy / ghosty? I'm in 4:2:2 mode.

1997
Jan 20, 2008

calmer than you are

fivehead posted:

Giving the 4K model it's maiden voyage with Ghost in the shell on a Samsung KS8000. Is it just me... or is the interface laggy / ghosty? I'm in 4:2:2 mode.

I use an aTV 4K with my KS8000 and other than the menus being dim, everything is great. 4K HDR iTunes movies look great. Netflix looks great. Haven’t really watched 1080p yet though.

fivehead
Jul 11, 2017

Americans Need Cash Now

1997 posted:

I use an aTV 4K with my KS8000 and other than the menus being dim, everything is great. 4K HDR iTunes movies look great. Netflix looks great. Haven’t really watched 1080p yet though.

The iTunes pq is insane. I watched the first 15 minutes of Ghost in the shell and a couple scenes of lalaland and was blown away. The menu is just driving me crazy

1997
Jan 20, 2008

calmer than you are
I watched Deadpool yesterday and I almost couldn’t believe how good it looked. Very impressed with iTunes 4K movies, especially since movie codes can be had very cheap.

Violator
May 15, 2003


1997 posted:

I watched Deadpool yesterday and I almost couldn’t believe how good it looked. Very impressed with iTunes 4K movies, especially since movie codes can be had very cheap.

Is there a suggested site for movie codes? I just recently learned about this and it makes a lot of sense.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

We've Got To Go Back
[quote="“1997”" post="“476995406”"]
I use an aTV 4K with my KS8000 and other than the menus being dim, everything is great. 4K HDR iTunes movies look great. Netflix looks great. Haven’t really watched 1080p yet though.
[/quote]

Just curious what settings you are using for your KS8000? I just haven't been blown away by 4K HDR yet. The jump from 1080p just doesn't feel like the big of a jump. Maybe it's just me, and I haven't found the right settings yet. Please any advice is welcomed (I have 55 inch version).

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sellouts
Apr 23, 2003

I can't use HDR mode. The menus are so dim.

I really wish it autoswitched to HDR mode when the content is actually HDR.

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