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STING 64
Oct 20, 2006

you are wrong. youre loving wrong. you poo poo. you poo poo! !

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STING 64
Oct 20, 2006

i cant be lynched today its my birthday its in tbe constitution

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

Muttley is SKYNET!!!

gif Probst posted:

you are wrong. youre loving wrong. you poo poo. you poo poo! !

Pinche Rudo
Feb 8, 2005

There's nowhere to run, scum. It's time to take the plunge

Natural 20
Sep 17, 2007

Wearer of Compasses. Slayer of Gods. Champion of the Colosseum. Heart of the Void.
Saviour of Hallownest.

Jenkem Delivery posted:

poo poo sorry I edited my post. This is my first time playing

I did the same thing in my first game.

Giving you a warning, don't do it again obvs.

Pinche Rudo
Feb 8, 2005

Force of habit, won't happen again

jesus WEP
Oct 17, 2004


Jenkem Delivery posted:

I explained my reason for unvoting Sal. I thought he no voted on Day 1 but he actually just forgot to bold his vote.

St Evan Echoes is lying to try and deflect attention on me he's scum for sure

##vote St Evan Echoes

This makes me think DB isn't scum and since St Evan and Gif probst jumped on the bandwagon so quickly I think DB is clean and those two are scum

##unvote DB
##vote Gif Probst
lol what did I lie about

derp
Jan 21, 2010

when i get up all i want to do is go to bed again

Lipstick Apathy
i think i am confused ? ?

i thought that multiple votes implied one person with multiple votes, the extra of which were anonymous. unvoting, then voting your extra votes dont make much sense

Pinche Rudo
Feb 8, 2005

You implied that I unvoted DB. Also you wanted everyone to unvote and re vote to show who cast the anonymous votes in what is likely a town role. You're trying to reveal who has it so you and your scum buddies can ice them

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

Muttley is SKYNET!!!
"Everybody gets one"

jesus WEP
Oct 17, 2004


oh i thought it meant you cast your own regular vote in anonymity :blush:

jesus WEP
Oct 17, 2004


Jenkem Delivery posted:

You implied that I unvoted DB. Also you wanted everyone to unvote and re vote to show who cast the anonymous votes in what is likely a town role. You're trying to reveal who has it so you and your scum buddies can ice them
i said you did an unvote before the anonymous ones went in, which is unambiguously true

but i was going under the assumption that the anon votes were people using their regular vote, not an extra vote, which might not be correct

derp
Jan 21, 2010

when i get up all i want to do is go to bed again

Lipstick Apathy
i dont know what i t means. i didnt read anything. usually in past games when i see multiple anonymous votes happen at once they are coming from one person who's power it is to have extra secret votes. tho three seems a bit op so maybe i am dumb

jesus WEP
Oct 17, 2004


maybe they managed to get a fuckload of momentum on D1

Pinche Rudo
Feb 8, 2005

A likely story, you're trying to out who has that ability so you can kill them during the night. I got you!!

kumba
Nov 8, 2003

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

enjoy the ride

Lipstick Apathy
why is a triple anonymous vote likely a town role

the ability to manipulate hte lunch like that does not strike me as particularly townie, seems like a weird assumption to make. i'm not saying it's not a town role but the assumption it is strikes me as strange

jesus WEP
Oct 17, 2004


kumba posted:

why is a triple anonymous vote likely a town role

the ability to manipulate hte lunch like that does not strike me as particularly townie, seems like a weird assumption to make. i'm not saying it's not a town role but the assumption it is strikes me as strange

it'd be way op for scum to have surely

SalTheBard
Jan 26, 2005

I forgot to post my food for USPOL Thanksgiving but that's okay too!

Fallen Rib
At what point do we gain momentum? That was one thing I was confused about.

Pinche Rudo
Feb 8, 2005

I'm new to mafia but isn't voting the town's biggest strength? Being able to boost the vote would be a plus, right?

jesus WEP
Oct 17, 2004


SalTheBard posted:

At what point do we gain momentum? That was one thing I was confused about.
in my experience it happens at the end of each day

Jenkem Delivery posted:

I'm new to mafia but isn't voting the town's biggest strength? Being able to boost the vote would be a plus, right?
yea and also if scum had multiple votes they could get >50% way early in the game

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


It could go either way but it was used in what I would call a scummy way

kumba
Nov 8, 2003

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

enjoy the ride

Lipstick Apathy
you don't know how it works though, maybe they can't hammer with it, maybe they can't unvote once its used, who knows

i think it's more likely it's NOT a town role because why stay anonymous? having a triple vote as a townsperson is not some super overpowered thing you need to protect. if you're town and you used a triple vote vote i should think you'd have a pretty good reason to use it. there aren't any super compelling cases at the moment, so it seems less likely to me it came from a townsperson

this is a lot of words to say 'you have no loving clue who they are or what their alignment is and assuming one way or the other is super silly'

Jenkem Delivery posted:

I'm new to mafia but isn't voting the town's biggest strength? Being able to boost the vote would be a plus, right?

it is, but boosting the vote means you potentially end the day super early or you quickly turbo someone due to momentum (not the in game mechanic the actual definition of the word) or whatever

Pinche Rudo
Feb 8, 2005

Gotcha. Ok I'll unvote St Evan but I think gif probst is scum

##unvote St Evan Echoes

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

Muttley is SKYNET!!!
Having that power as a town would be dangerous if not for being anon because it would just paint a giant target on that player's back for a scum night kill.

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

Muttley is SKYNET!!!

Dick Bastardly posted:

Having that power as a town would be dangerous if not for being anon because it would just paint a giant target on that player's back for a scum night kill.


Jenkem Delivery posted:

A likely story, you're trying to out who has that ability so you can kill them during the night. I got you!!



Jenkem knows whats up. St Evan Echos, who are you likely to vote a this point in the game? Would you be wiling to vote PTM?

jesus WEP
Oct 17, 2004


Dick Bastardly posted:

Jenkem knows whats up. St Evan Echos, who are you likely to vote a this point in the game? Would you be wiling to vote PTM?

probably leaning PTM yeah, i just wanted to stir poo poo up first

kumba
Nov 8, 2003

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

enjoy the ride

Lipstick Apathy

Dick Bastardly posted:

Having that power as a town would be dangerous if not for being anon because it would just paint a giant target on that player's back for a scum night kill.

that triple vote potentially makes it easier for scum to do their job if they're deployed on a townsperson. this is not a good argument

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

Muttley is SKYNET!!!

kumba posted:

that triple vote potentially makes it easier for scum to do their job if they're deployed on a townsperson. this is not a good argument

The onus of responsibility then falls on the user of such a move. I still think it's just too drat powerful to be a scum role.

kumba
Nov 8, 2003

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

enjoy the ride

Lipstick Apathy

Dick Bastardly posted:

The onus of responsibility then falls on the user of such a move. I still think it's just too drat powerful to be a scum role.

i would argue it is less powerful than a town vig and town vigs happen all the time, so

trying to determine the alignment of a power role based solely on how strong it is is a fool's errand. i played a game once with a town godfather and a scum miller. assume nothing

PASS THE MASH
Oct 30, 2013


kumba posted:

that triple vote potentially makes it easier for scum to do their job if they're deployed on a townsperson. this is not a good argument

I mean I have no idea the meta here but wouldn't that make it incredibly easy for scum to pick everyone off and win."?

kumba
Nov 8, 2003

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

enjoy the ride

Lipstick Apathy
i'm saying a town person with an extra triple vote potentially makes the scum's job easier, because that's less townspeople they have to wrangle into a mislunch

obviously if the scum themselves have it then sure that makes it easier, but again you don't know how it works or if there's a drawback or what

kumba
Nov 8, 2003

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

enjoy the ride

Lipstick Apathy
what im getting at is: play mafia, stop trying to figure out obscure mechanics because you have no way to know if you're right even if you are right

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

Muttley is SKYNET!!!

kumba posted:

i would argue it is less powerful than a town vig and town vigs happen all the time, so

trying to determine the alignment of a power role based solely on how strong it is is a fool's errand. i played a game once with a town godfather and a scum miller. assume nothing

Imagine if you will a scum having a day vig. That's how unbalanced it would be if anon vote x3 was a scum role. I wil agree on your principle of assuming nothing however. This is just conjecture after all.

jesus WEP
Oct 17, 2004


faire nough

##vote PTM

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

Muttley is SKYNET!!!

Dick Bastardly posted:

Imagine if you will a scum having a day vig. That's how unbalanced it would be if anon vote x3 was a scum role. I wil agree on your principle of assuming nothing however. This is just conjecture after all.

Maybe not as egregious as that example but I think my point still stands.

kumba
Nov 8, 2003

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

enjoy the ride

Lipstick Apathy

Dick Bastardly posted:

Imagine if you will a scum having a day vig. That's how unbalanced it would be if anon vote x3 was a scum role. I wil agree on your principle of assuming nothing however. This is just conjecture after all.

scum day vigs have and will continue to exist, that isn't out of the question at all. there are games where scum teams get an extra kill at night sometimes. there are games where the scum team doesn't have a kill. who cares

kumba
Nov 8, 2003

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

enjoy the ride

Lipstick Apathy
it is very strange to me that i made the case on PTM and suddenly they're at -1 and i havent even voted my own case

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

Muttley is SKYNET!!!
I think you're right though, this topic hasn't generated anything of a scum tell out of any of these hooligans so I'll drop it. It's not productive.

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

Muttley is SKYNET!!!

kumba posted:

it is very strange to me that i made the case on PTM and suddenly they're at -1 and i havent even voted my own case

I literally was typing that same argument before I refreshed the page. So....:yeah:

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kumba
Nov 8, 2003

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

enjoy the ride

Lipstick Apathy
like i get being wary of no lunching again but drat that was fast

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