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Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story

Dexie posted:

Didn't the same thing happen with Den-O's actor too,

Yeah from what I've heard he really wants to play Ryotaro again but his agency won't let him.

GuyUpNorth posted:

Trying to put it in more universal terms, Sentai and Rider is regarded as stepping stone AFAIK. Gentaro/Kouta/Philip got their break there and agencies want them to keep going higher in addition to whatever actors themselves think.

And then you have situations where a famous porn actress played one of the villains in a Sentai (Nao Oikawa in Go-Onger).

e: Ha, I was watching the new episode of Kyuranger today and said "Huh isn't it about time they got their midseason mecha? Maybe they're not doing that this season" and then I saw the preview for the next episode.

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Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Wasn't there an issue with Wizard where Koyomi's actress had an active musical career at the same time, so she couldn't actually film very often?

Stallion Cabana
Feb 14, 2012
1; Get into Grad School

2; Become better at playing Tabletop, both as a player and as a GM/ST/W/E

3; Get rid of this goddamn avatar.

Twelve by Pies posted:

Yeah from what I've heard he really wants to play Ryotaro again but his agency won't let him.


He's apparently the new Live Action Kenshin so that's what he's been doing for the past however long.

With there being a new Kenshin arc in the manga I assume he'll be doing a new movie soon.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH

RealFoxy posted:

Akibaranger was probably the best show for that to have happened to because they got to take the piss out of her having to leave the show. I wish they'd be able to do a short 6-8 episode season every couple years

Supposedly she struggled with her agency to appear in the first episode of the second season. I don't think they had any issue with her.

The idol character was obviously aimed at a number of performers they have had to put up with over the years but I don't think it was her predecessor. For instance, Tamao Sato (Ohranger pink) was such a drama queen during filming that I was aware of the hate-dom that was growing around her even as a naive PR Zeo fan on IRC with no access to Japanese episodes. The last time I brought her up someone elaborated and said it was all smoothed over today. But yeah, actors who just want to be noticed so they can go do something else are a thing.

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And then you have situations where a famous porn actress played one of the villains in a Sentai (Nao Oikawa in Go-Onger).
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This has been around forever. Megaranger and Gingaman do the same. Not being able to use porn actresses in low cut tops and latex boots may have been why Saban made original characters instead. Which is fine, Astronema and Trakeena are some of the most memorable non-MMPR villains.

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Oct 3, 2017

Vandar
Sep 14, 2007

Isn't That Right, Chairman?



Craptacular! posted:

This has been around forever. Megaranger and Gingaman do the same. Not being able to use porn actresses in low cut tops and latex boots may have been why Saban made original characters instead. Which is fine, Astronema and Trakeena are some of the most memorable non-MMPR villains.

And then there's Divatox, their very own actress in a low cut top and latex boots.

On the Sentai side of things, Malshina from Akibaranger was a porn actress too.

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Dexie posted:

And then there's Divatox, their very own actress in a low cut top and latex boots.

On the Sentai side of things, Malshina from Akibaranger was a porn actress too.

And because it was a parody aimed at adults, they made sure to reference that fact as much as possible (and yet she still managed to be a pretty competent villainess regardless).

Seiyal
Jul 9, 2015

In my mind I just pretend. My brain is my only true friend.
Well good on Heisei Generations Final for going out on a big note and getting more than half of the post-Decade series riders back.

I almost kind of hope that this is literally just a tease and that they're gonna go all out and bring back even more Riders sans suits but even if they can't, this is still a pretty nice group to end this particular movie series with.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
Gentaro becoming a high school teacher is still one of the most :3: post-series events.

gourdcaptain
Nov 16, 2012

RealFoxy posted:

Kabuto had a lot of questionable story directions with or without Drake let's be fair. Their lead actress getting incredibly sick probably didn't help either

The funniest thing about Drake's actor (who also played V3 in sigh The Next) is that he showed up most of a decade later playing the After V Blue in the actually unofficial parody Sentai series Kanpai Senshi After V. And is basically playing a more airheaded version of Drake and especially The Next V3 in that, alongside the guy who played Decade!Kuuga as Red.

Nodosaur
Dec 23, 2014

Kind of sad Decade himself isn't here to bookend this generation of Riders.

deadly_pudding
May 13, 2009

who the fuck is scraeming
"LOG OFF" at my house.
show yourself, coward.
i will never log off

TFRazorsaw posted:

Kind of sad Decade himself isn't here to bookend this generation of Riders.

Rest assured that this, too, is Decade's fault.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
Can the real last movie just be 90 minutes of everyone roasting Decade?

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

https://twitter.com/ziodynes098/status/915230201260384256

deadly_pudding
May 13, 2009

who the fuck is scraeming
"LOG OFF" at my house.
show yourself, coward.
i will never log off
Fourze is incredibly good, yes.

Cipher Pol 9
Oct 9, 2006


Wish they could have gotten at least just Shotaro back ala Super Hero Taisen Z, but I am still over the moon about seeing Gentaro and Eiji/Ankh again. December is now too far away.

Cough Drop The Beat
Jan 22, 2012

by Lowtax
Man, having Gentaro back is going to own so hard! Can't wait for this goddamn movie. It's a shame they can't bring Shotaro back as a Kamen Rider Joker cameo or something though...

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

The Deleter posted:

So happy to see my boy Gentaro back.

Also my brother saw this thread and recommended "One Flew Over the Toku's Nest" as a title.

Nice one.

SpazmasterX
Jul 13, 2006

Wrong about everything XIV related
~fartz~
So do you think after Build we can expect to see Kamen Rider Score or something

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

SpazmasterX posted:

So do you think after Build we can expect to see Kamen Rider Score or something

That's going to depend entirely on how Build handles going into the new time slot opposite Dragon Ball Super.




Basically, worst case scenario, Kamen Rider as we know it might be going on hiatus for a little while. With the changing of eras, the next series is definitely going to be an interesting thing to see.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
Why are they putting it to compete with themselves? :psyduck:

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

PMush Perfect posted:

Why are they putting it to compete with themselves? :psyduck:

I think this might fall to the TV networks.

They work differently in Japan, and this absolutely would not be the first time.

Don't forget, Kamen Rider Stronger was cut short to only 39 episodes because it was moved to compete with Go Ranger.


Kamen Rider might make it out of the channel change alright. The real series to worry about would be Sentai, which hasn't been on break since the 80s and has been failing in ratings for a long drat time now. It's going up against One Piece, which is some how worse than it's current competition, Pokemon.

That might be why, if those rumors are true for next year's Sentai, it's going to be so experimental and different. Try and keep what audience it has and spice things up to HOPEFULLY draw new blood too. The new Sentai would also be airing around the time of the new Era change, which is going to be a fairly big deal for Japan.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
i think sentai could use a break and/or a big shakeup.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH

Burkion posted:

With the changing of eras, the next series is definitely going to be an interesting thing to see.

Is anyone in production actually changing? Because this era obsession seems fuckin' weird if not, because it's not like Toei ritually sacrifices everyone responsible for making the show when the Emperor of Japan is coroneted. Sentai hardly has any definitive line as it slowly blended from one path to the other, Kamen Rider is easy to segregate like that because it's one of those shows that had a long trip in the wilderness.

People are really screaming about ratings, but Ex-Aid getting three movies and selling a bunch of blu ray boxes implies that people are seeing the show even if it's not through traditional TV airings. I don't know anything about non-broadcast or grey market television in Japan, so I have no idea how people are watching it (they may be downloading [THISFILEHASNOSUBS] files for all I know) but it seems like they indeed are watching it.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

It's a good excuse as any to try a franchise revamp if the execs have been thinking about it for a while. Honestly, there was a pretty obvious one right in the middle of the Heisei era and that's why there's a phase 1 and phase 2 distinction. At least this way there's a built-in label to associate with the new approach.

Desumaytah
Apr 23, 2005

Intensity, .mpeg gritty, Intelligence
Hi thread, it's been a while.

I have CTRL+F'd the prefix "ultra" for 21 FUKKEN pages and there's barely anything and you dorks are still on babytime frolic poo poo like Kamen Rider and Garo and everything else that isn't Ultraman. :mad:

Burkion, WHERE IS THE ULTRA POST?

Are they still trying to tie that awful action figure poo poo into the main shows like with Ginga? What is this Geed stuff? Pretend I just stepped out of a cryo-pod from the year 2014 with the words "ALL ULTRA, ALL THE TIME" written on it.

Will any modern Ultra series ever be as good as Max? (No.)

The Deleter
May 22, 2010
Ultraman is bad and I haven't seen anything that would change my mind.

Desumaytah
Apr 23, 2005

Intensity, .mpeg gritty, Intelligence

The Deleter posted:

Ultraman is bad and I haven't seen anything that would change my mind.

I appreciate your honesty and gumption, friend.

Now where are all the Zettons???

OnimaruXLR
Sep 15, 2007
Lurklurklurklurklurk

Desumaytah posted:

Now where are all the Zettons???



Desumaytah posted:

Are they still trying to tie that awful action figure poo poo into the main shows like with Ginga?
No, that ended with X, which was really good, unlike Ginga, which can eat poo poo

quote:

What is this Geed stuff?
Geed is Belial's bastard son, and Ultraman Zero's...siiiidekiiiiick....? It's pretty good.

quote:

Will any modern Ultra series ever be as good as Max? (No.)
Out of the post-showa series I've only watched X-Geed
X is great, in basically every way except for the fact that it has Spark Dolls (and even those are used for a few good jokes)
Orb is weird. It's like Ultraman and Zubat (as in the Magnificent, not the Pokemon) had a baby. Your enjoyment will probably have a lot to do with how much you enjoy the shenanigans of it's Lone Gunmen-esque squad of weirdo supporting characters.

Geed is a little... lacking in dynamism so far, but there's fun fanservice with the Zero/Belial beef, and fusion kaiju (now there's something Rider and Sentai won't have/if they do it won't be as good), and Geed himself is going through a classic hero coming of age thing. Also the Tai Chi girl is dreamy, I like her too. And it has an alien in sweats and sneakers.

OnimaruXLR fucked around with this message at 09:13 on Oct 4, 2017

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
geed's not exactly breaking new ground narratively, but it's got heart and a nice message.

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.
gently caress Ultraman, watch Ex-Aid.

Cipher Pol 9
Oct 9, 2006


Please don't kill Sentai, Pokemon and One Piece. It may not be the most mature or the highest form of entertainment but it is a reliable source of happiness each week that I would like to continue enjoying.

Blaze Dragon
Aug 28, 2013
LOWTAX'S SPINE FUND

Cipher Pol 9 posted:

Please don't kill Sentai, Pokemon and One Piece. It may not be the most mature or the highest form of entertainment but it is a reliable source of happiness each week that I would like to continue enjoying.

Counterpoint: do kill One Piece. Then restart it but with actual effort put into it and without stretching things out to such ridiculous extents.

RealFoxy
May 11, 2011

I'm not making a fucking QCS thread for this but seriously can we take a harder stance on Kiwifarms freaks like this guy, Jesus Christ seriously, you used to be better at knocking these creeps down. I guess ADTRW mods aren't responsible like GBS mods are.

Blaze Dragon posted:

Counterpoint: do kill One Piece. Then restart it but with actual effort put into it and without stretching things out to such ridiculous extents.
I just learned they stretched a 3-issue fight that was mostly off-screen while other things were happening into ten loving episodes

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

One Piece still prints money no matter how little effort Toei puts into it. You think they're gonna get rid of that and actually try?

deadly_pudding
May 13, 2009

who the fuck is scraeming
"LOG OFF" at my house.
show yourself, coward.
i will never log off

RealFoxy posted:

I just learned they stretched a 3-issue fight that was mostly off-screen while other things were happening into ten loving episodes

That's the terrible danger of doing an anime based on a series that's still concurrently running :v:
You gotta stretch that precious currently available material out, or risk the doomed fate of making a completely non-canon filler arc where the status quo absolutely cannot change.

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
Ultraman Chat has been halted as I get some things done. But as others have said, Orb abandons the action figure collectible, and Geed further leaves it behind. Geed actually does the Build idea first, just without shaking them.

Craptacular! posted:

Is anyone in production actually changing? Because this era obsession seems fuckin' weird if not, because it's not like Toei ritually sacrifices everyone responsible for making the show when the Emperor of Japan is coroneted. Sentai hardly has any definitive line as it slowly blended from one path to the other, Kamen Rider is easy to segregate like that because it's one of those shows that had a long trip in the wilderness.

Japan is, still, a very traditional country, and when something as major as an Era changeover happens, they do take the opportunity to re-brand a lot of things.

So if we're ever going to see a major change in how Kamen Rider and Sentai have been since the last major shake up, we're approaching that point next year. Though honestly, it may not really settle in until a few years from now.

Some things being defined by Era can get weird.

With the Godzilla franchise, Godzilla 1984 is retroactively brought into the Heisei Era despite VERY much not being there

While with Kamen Rider, Kamen Rider Black RX, Shin, ZO and J are all considered Showa Riders despite them happening either partly, or entirely, in the Heisei Era.

Both are good examples of what I mean by franchise shakeup.

Kuuga was the successful revival for Kamen Rider, so it is considered officially to be the First Heisei Series, despite RX technically being the first, as it was running during the changeover, and Shin DEFINITELY being the first otherwise. Same for Godzilla 1984, which spawned the ever popular Heisei Godzilla series, despite it firmly being in the Showa Era.

Double marked such a departure from Kuuga, and the following series more or less followed his lead to such an extent, that people took to calling it NeoHeisei or Phase 2.

I'd fully expect a similar change when Build ends, because Build is very clearly an homage to Double in his gimmick and design.


Even Super Sentai went through a similar change up, which I'll get more into when I continue my write up on the franchise. Liveman, the last Showa Era series, was also the last of what I like to call the Serious Era of Sentai, a period from Bioman to Liveman where Super Sentai focused primarily on more Shonen Hero kind of things. These are the fabled series that you see the most serious monster designs, the heavy serious themes, and the beginnings of character driven drama from.

TurboRanger was a step towards what Sentai would settle on. Some times serious stuff, but mostly light hearted and surrounded by goofy things. A goofy tone overlaid on super hero action.

Jetman was a mutant throwback that stands alone in the early Heisei Era of Sentai, beyond the aborted first 13 episodes of OhRanger.

The fact that Sentai runs without end makes it harder to pin down specific eras too easily, but they do have them. A lot of Sentai blends together. Lately they've been skewing younger even in toy design, so we'll see what happens in the future.

Cipher Pol 9
Oct 9, 2006


Blaze Dragon posted:

Counterpoint: do kill One Piece. Then restart it but with actual effort put into it and without stretching things out to such ridiculous extents.

I knew that comma would get me. I was asking One Piece and Pokemon to not kill Super Sentai. One Piece is my favorite manga but I have no love for the tortured shell that continues to masquerade as its anime long after it died due to its awful pacing.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
This is the first time I've ever seen the lack of an Oxford comma in a sentence be important and correct.

GuyUpNorth
Apr 29, 2014

Witty phrases on random basis
Counter-counter-point: scrap One Piece, take 20 years worth of content and do One Piece Kai. Not like Toei is eventually doing it after Oda has finished.

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girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
Are you kidding? They're gonna milk OP for all it's worth, and if they realize they can make even more money just recutting and reselling old footage, they absolutely will.

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