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Third World Reggin posted:that is called flanking I always thought the reinforcements entered the map based on their position relative to the other army on the campaign map before the battle starts. If it doesn't work that way it should.
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So gents I finally cleared some time for this What are our must have mods by now and relevant stuff like that, pretty please
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dead comedy forums posted:So gents I finally cleared some time for this Workshop opened like yesterday so there are no mods. Or at least no good ones.
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toasterwarrior posted:You need at least two skill points in a spell to overcast them. IIRC caster lords need one, caster heroes need two. Also, spells with overcast will have 2/3 points on the skill tree while those without will have 1/2.
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Oct 7, 2017 17:10
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Zore posted:Workshop opened like yesterday so there are no mods. Better camera, skip intro logos, hero levels, provincial roads and stupid agents are there so some QoL is already guaranteed but ofc we have "sexier morathi" as well edit: also "toned-down witch elves", because warrior women can't have abs
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Oct 7, 2017 17:11
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Death Globadiers are absolutely ridiculous and amazing. I have 4 of them in my army and they'll vaporize any unit in 2 volleys, as well as any other units nearby. Including my own. Even with a nice flank, it is 100% guaranteed that the engaged skavenslave/clanrat group is going to get annihilated too. And that is okay.
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There's some good mods already, here's a few: Raging Beasts and Brutes http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1158924766 Unlimited Dragon Breaths http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1158815814 Global Recruit Buff http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1158755347 Crynsos' Faction Unlocker+ http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1158985864 Varied Hydras http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1158732146 Immersive Battle Banners http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1159967423 Faster End Turn Camera http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1159014317 Darker and Contrast Sea http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1158833078 Provincial Roads http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1157274821 Diplomatic Options - Vassal, Liberate & Confederate http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1155808469
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Speaking of Skavenslaves I just got access to Stormvermin and now I'm wondering how Skaven frontlines work when you have access to all the tiers. Are they the hammer to the Skavenslaves' anvil or do you phase out slaves entirely and make Stormvermin a more normal frontline? Or do you keep Slaves/Clanrats for your frontline and just keep a couple of Stormvermin units hanging around to guard your many expensive catapults?
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Pierson posted:Speaking of Skavenslaves I just got access to Stormvermin and now I'm wondering how Skaven frontlines work when you have access to all the tiers. Are they the hammer to the Skavenslaves' anvil or do you phase out slaves entirely and make Stormvermin a more normal frontline? Or do you keep Slaves/Clanrats for your frontline and just keep a couple of Stormvermin units hanging around to guard your many expensive catapults? Plague monks and rat ogres are the hammer.
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Pierson posted:Speaking of Skavenslaves I just got access to Stormvermin and now I'm wondering how Skaven frontlines work when you have access to all the tiers. Are they the hammer to the Skavenslaves' anvil or do you phase out slaves entirely and make Stormvermin a more normal frontline? Or do you keep Slaves/Clanrats for your frontline and just keep a couple of Stormvermin units hanging around to guard your many expensive catapults? Those are all options but what I seem to be doing is queek gets stormvermin and everyone else gets slave armies, just due to maintenance costs.
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Oct 7, 2017 17:55
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I haven't actually played a TW game seriously since Med2 ages ago. My guys always seem to just clump up in a group when I'm trying to order them around. Are there any good primers for figuring out how to move units in formation and stuff like that?
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Oct 7, 2017 17:57
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Those are all options but what I seem to be doing is queek gets stormvermin and everyone else gets slave armies, just due to maintenance costs.
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Oct 7, 2017 18:00
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If you like MP just stay away from playing HE until there's a balance patch Lizardmen with solar engine spam and DE...anything just destroy them You can't even counter build DE because they can do lots of different builds. With Elf rampage poison is beyond dumb, Death Hag is OP as poo poo, both HE legendary lords are bleh (Teclis would probably be good if HE could field a competent wide army but you're stuck going elite infantry), HE missiles are garbage but DE missiles have AP It's just a mess now that the meta is shaking out
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Oct 7, 2017 18:00
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Night10194 posted:I haven't actually played a TW game seriously since Med2 ages ago. My guys always seem to just clump up in a group when I'm trying to order them around. Are there any good primers for figuring out how to move units in formation and stuff like that? Watch Party Elite's video tutorials. He has one in advanced unit commands that is super helpful.
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Oct 7, 2017 18:05
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oswald ownenstein posted:If you like MP just stay away from playing HE until there's a balance patch I went to go look for turin having a HE multiplayer match to see how he does it. But yah I am excited for a balance patch since some teams do feel too strong atm.
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Pierson posted:Speaking of Skavenslaves I just got access to Stormvermin and now I'm wondering how Skaven frontlines work when you have access to all the tiers. Are they the hammer to the Skavenslaves' anvil or do you phase out slaves entirely and make Stormvermin a more normal frontline? Or do you keep Slaves/Clanrats for your frontline and just keep a couple of Stormvermin units hanging around to guard your many expensive catapults? I really like slaves for the benefit of not affecting other units at all if they get mauled. Even later on having a few units of slaves is cost effective as a sacrificial unit. Slaves work great for padding out extra armies that cost almost nothing extra. You can use these to help crush rebellions and act as the vanguard for sieges. I'll have a lord with 4 plagueclaw catapults and 15 slaves initiate a siege then have your main army follow up. The slaves in towers tank the castle defenses and wear down Defenders, while main army swoops in.
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Third World Reggin posted:I went to go look for turin having a HE multiplayer match to see how he does it. But yah I am excited for a balance patch since some teams do feel too strong atm. His videos are so weird because he doesn't play HE all that much and the opponents he face seem like they aren't aware of whatever the meta is Like yeah you'll beat a lizardman who brings a bunch of skinks or kroks if you bring phoenix guard, or his DE matches his opponents will do stuff like leave their death hag idle in a forest I haven't seen him face anything that I keep running into. I know he sticks to elite infantry with some phoenixes and doesn't bother with chariots and rarely cav. His uploaded videos are almost always his wins, the streams he's been playing skaven mostly. Turin is definitely the best youtube dude to watch though he's just awesome
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Oct 7, 2017 18:32
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i dont like how hordes can just spawn in the middle of your territory while your armies are off doing poo poo
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oswald ownenstein posted:If you like MP just stay away from playing HE until there's a balance patch Eh, people were shouting about HE having issues since pretty much the first battle. Nothing changed all the way up to and, it seems, past release. They'll buff and improve i expect. Doesn't help that their AP ranged is going to be behind a paywall. Well, unless CA make the Everqueen and her Sisters flc i guess.
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I just killed like 2200 infantry lizards with an Eshin/Skyre-specced army; the cannons taking home like 300 kills each at minimum and 500 at max. This may be my favorite faction ever in a Total War game, Skaven loving rule. They're so good I'm really tempted to even cut my 8 tarpit units to 6 and take even more warcrime technology instead, since their ranged units are insanely brutal.
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Well, that campaign is weird. I am Mazdamundi very hard radious campaign, Queek is the Skaven ritual guy, and because the high elfs declared war on me and some other stuff I am now at +100 relations with Skrolk. There was a joint battle (my Skrolk bro and me) vs a lot of uncool lizards (every lizard other then Kroq gar has the trait that gives negative relations with other lizards, -.-) and Teclis. Skrolk behaved in a most skavenlike manner, and tried hard to kill as many foes as possible while also killing as many of my guys as possible. When the tally of friendly fired Elite Sauri ("Skrolk Skrolk must help help triple gold chevron Temple guards vs 4 or 5 Elyrian reavers with all 4 Catapults! Yes Yes, Help Help!") reached more then 200 I popped a ruiniation of cities directly on his blob. The joints battle improved our relations quite a bit, I think establishing friendly fire dominance is an important step in establishing a beneficial relationship with skaven. Good times. Mightypeon fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Oct 7, 2017 |
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I'm hoping CA (or a modder) adds a reason to do the Vortex at all beyond an alternate win condition. It's interesting on paper and gives the AI a chance to win the strategic layer, but in practice it's a net penalty to actually follow the objective. All it really does is spawn enemies on top of you and make anyone who's not your race hate you. As things are now, even if losing the race was an instant loss, why wouldn't you just kill the other factions instead? Ritual currency is equally distributed around the world, so to get enough to win the race you're going to be walking by (or over) your competitors' start locations anyway.
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boho posted:I'm hoping CA (or a modder) adds a reason to do the Vortex at all beyond an alternate win condition. It's interesting on paper and gives the AI a chance to win the strategic layer, but in practice it's a net penalty to actually follow the objective. All it really does is spawn enemies on top of you and make anyone who's not your race hate you. e: vvvv Yeah, or that. Give some of the bonuses you get mid-ritual to stick around afterwards, or give different ones. Ravenfood fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Oct 7, 2017 |
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Oct 7, 2017 20:16
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boho posted:I'm hoping CA (or a modder) adds a reason to do the Vortex at all beyond an alternate win condition. It's interesting on paper and gives the AI a chance to win the strategic layer, but in practice it's a net penalty to actually follow the objective. All it really does is spawn enemies on top of you and make anyone who's not your race hate you. Faction bonuses for each completed phase of the ritual would be great. As it stands, it just makes same race factions like you more and rival race factions hate you even more.
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If you capture the vortex, all enemies get -50 winds of magic reserve. If you assume that you will continue the game after "winning", that's one hell of an advantage.
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Night10194 posted:I haven't actually played a TW game seriously since Med2 ages ago. My guys always seem to just clump up in a group when I'm trying to order them around. Are there any good primers for figuring out how to move units in formation and stuff like that? If you don't want to watch through a video: 1. Set up your formation how you want it. 2. Select the formation and click 'G' to group them. 3. Press Shift + G to lock them into formation. Now you can send them off and they will keep that formation while moving. You can also move them with WASD and it will show you exactly how the formation will look where they end up. Also when in formation like this if you click on the enemy front line your front line will attack whatever is in front of them instead of the whole army converging on one unit. You can rotate your entire army formation using CTRL + left arrow or right arrow too.
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oswald ownenstein posted:If you like MP just stay away from playing HE until there's a balance patch Invicta just posted a match with an interesting HE build. 4 Dragon Princes with Teclis for nets with a mix of White Lions, Archers and Spearmen core. It seemed pretty strong if you can micro well.
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Nephthys posted:Invicta just posted a match with an interesting HE build. 4 Dragon Princes with Teclis for nets with a mix of White Lions, Archers and Spearmen core. I'll have to check that out I've been getting absolutely murdered no matter what build I try against DE Witch elves are just so broken - they seem to 1v1 white lions no problem, and anything else gets raped by the death hag if I'm stupid enough to put something costly in against them because of that ridiculous taunt that will get a big fat nerf next patch So archers can help with witch elves but DE can win with pretty much any comp so you'll see a lot of cav + high armored poo poo which make it a guessing game
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DE purple murder rampage needs a nerf. The unbreakableness of it really sucks when your on the receiving end.
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Do the other races' epilogues also refer to the coming demon apocalypse? Also people weren't kidding when they said the final battle was easy. I wonder if it would been better if they had taken advantage of the free-for-all mechanic and have the opposing armies spawn in together and also be hostile to eachother. Getting the AI right so that it doesn't ignore the player completely and only go for the other AI factions probably would probably be a bit tricky though. Raygereio fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Oct 7, 2017 |
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On Vh in campaign enemy DE always trigger that before you're 75% there, and I never see much of a performance difference in my units. That and the 'leadership above 50%' stat buff for HE seem like weird, dumb game mechanics.
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Ammanas posted:On Vh in campaign enemy DE always trigger that before you're 75% there, and I never see much of a performance difference in my units. That and the 'leadership above 50%' stat buff for HE seem like weird, dumb game mechanics. HE get a stat boss with high leadership? I can hardly notice it on VH.
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Tenzarin posted:HE get a stat boss with high leadership? I can hardly notice it on VH. It's 50% or higher hp Some of their units get some extra melee attack / defense until they're less than 50% hp
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For the final vortex battle do you get put in charge of a premade army or does it just bring the one army your LL is attached to? Trying to plan ahead.
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Ibblebibble posted:For the final vortex battle do you get put in charge of a premade army or does it just bring the one army your LL is attached to? Trying to plan ahead. You bring your starting lords army, whatever it is at the time.
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GuardianOfAsgaard posted:You bring your starting lords army, whatever it is at the time. i used a rando lords army, cause she was standing right next to the point
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I'm trying to test it, but it seems like if you teleport a Skaven Lord to a quest battle/event battle, if they were previously in a territory that had a capital with upgraded walls you get the Warp Bombs as though you were fighting an army/defending against one in that territory. Not sure if this is intended or not but it made Queek's Dwarf Gouger quest considerably easier.
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Constantine XI posted:If you don't want to watch through a video: You can also alt+click and drag to move the formation marker and your guys will move to wherever you put it in formation. You can add ctrl+click to rotate, so while alt clicked hold control too and rotate for your destination. Instead of grouping with G and then locking you can ctrl+G to start with a locked group.
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Is there a way to make your units do an attack move like when you alt-left click a target with a locked formation without having to, you know, have an actual locked formation?
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