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breath of the wild was/is really goddamn good and if you play with the weapons system instead of bitching about it it's really fun, i promise like, all your enemies have weapons too, so all the weapon durability poo poo does is means that you have a guaranteed critical hit right when you need it, it owns if botw had proper dungeons it would probably be hands-down the best game of all time
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Meme Emulator posted:Have you even played the game? 20 or 40 hours idk
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geralt isn't grimdark, but since he's a traditionally masculine protagonist with an agenda that's not strictly aligned with a moral code, he and the world he lives in can seem grimdark just by virtue of daring to simulate aspects of life that aren't totally escapist in nature with a buff dude in a monster hunting profession with a hint of the 'tism.
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Guys, The Witcher 3 has bad combat and following a red trail with detective vision isn't fun.
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Oct 9, 2017 02:43
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Yes it is. In fact it's so self-evidently fun that I refuse to type any further in justification of it and will now simply call you a retard and be done with you.
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Oct 9, 2017 05:22
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The Dennis System posted:Guys, The Witcher 3 has bad combat and following a red trail with detective vision isn't fun. And here's my hot take: the ending to the main story is also bad and the system that determines it is really dumb
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Oct 9, 2017 05:25
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Sorry you're a loving bad dad rear end in a top hat doesnt make the game bad you abusive fucker
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basic hitler posted:Sorry you're a loving bad dad rear end in a top hat doesnt make the game bad you abusive fucker
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I found the Witcher 3 kinda boring and I never finished it, but calling it a bad game is bullshit. Also re: RPGs with good combat, Amalur comes to mind. Moving and attacking felt fast and fluid. I would kill for an Elder Scrolls game where I had that sense of agility.
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basic hitler posted:Sorry you're a loving bad dad rear end in a top hat doesnt make the game bad you abusive fucker Not making my daughter sad or depressed is such an inscrutable system! 1/10 stars.,
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The Wonder Weapon posted:Willing to hear suggestions for good fantasy RPG action combat. World of Warcraft. Fight me. Not that there's anything else good about WoW but I have to admit that game's PvP was some of the most fun PvP I've ever had in any game, FPS games included. Maybe that doesn't count though because anything played against another person will always be more fun because you'll always view the stakes as higher. Still though, even when I was just killing mobs in that game years and years ago, I really liked the combat system. I'd also say Souls games but I'm not sure if they count. GreatGreen fucked around with this message at 06:54 on Oct 9, 2017 |
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Oct 9, 2017 06:28
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William Henry Hairytaint posted:I found the Witcher 3 kinda boring and I never finished it, but calling it a bad game is bullshit. Personally i dont think it's bad, I mean I found it entertaining enough to finish the complete edition, it's just the combat, loot, quest design, leveling system and role playing that are bad.
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maybe they seem bad if ur retarded? just trying to be helpful here yes, all quests in all games boil down to following a paper trail until you find an item or a monster, so thanks for your insightful critique that W3 also follows this formula like literally 100% of rpgs, it's the extra touches and the polish that make or break a game. the leveling system is pretty good, did you miss assigning numbers to stats or something? it certainly allows decent variety for a game that forces you to be a sword guy. "role playing bad", is that an attempt at "bad writing" aka the most pointless argument ever made by a human? like if your conclusion is that all games in this genre of open world rpg are bad, then maybe its just not a genre for you and your opinions dont quite matter for anybody else steinrokkan fucked around with this message at 07:23 on Oct 9, 2017 |
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steinrokkan posted:the leveling system is pretty good It's an interesting system, but trivial to break, and without even picking broken skills the game isn't hard past level 12 and, barring DLC content, utterly trivial beyond level 30. That is my main complaint with an otherwise great game though. Power curve leveling makes sense when your character starts as someone with negligible practical skill, in Fallout for instance. It makes none with Geralt.
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Yeah, that's something that never really made sense past the first game.
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The Dennis System posted:Guys, The Witcher 3 has bad combat and following a red trail with detective vision isn't fun. This is correct, these are the bad things about Witcher 3. Although they at least managed to make following a red line interesting by having Geralt go "Hmmm looks like a bunch of ectoplasm, this has to be a pesta" and doing CSI: Monster edition
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The Wonder Weapon posted:I've been thinking about this and I'm not sure there's a fantasy RPG with good action/adventure combat. There's fantasy RPGs with good turn-based combat, and pew pew RPGs with good action combat, but I don't know if there's a mixture of the two. Even the best fantasy RPGs with action combat were good in spite of it, not because of it. Dark Souls!
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i really hope that the continued inexplicable success of dark souls makes from make stuff like king's field again
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Eela6 posted:Dark Souls! 
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W3 isn't that easy of a game on Death March. Not truly difficult, but intermittently challenging especially if you're not bothered to power game and chug lots of potions. It's also got a tinge of the JRPG about it in that if you take your sweet time you can trivialise lots of quests by doing lots of exploration and leveling up and doing all your green quests that you're overleveled for. It's a loving trodden topic in this thread anyway, have some different unpopular videogame opinions people. W3, yes, it's loving amazing, probably a litmus test for whether you have any taste in games at all unless you just hate RPGs. How about: Deus Ex: HR, despite the level of polish and some cool ideas, was a railroaded, garbage game with an insulting claim to offering the player choice and consequential actions, with a much worse ending than even the base ME3 ending.
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Jeza posted:W3 isn't that easy of a game on Death March. Not truly difficult, but intermittently challenging especially if you're not bothered to power game and chug lots of potions. It's also got a tinge of the JRPG about it in that if you take your sweet time you can trivialise lots of quests by doing lots of exploration and leveling up and doing all your green quests that you're overleveled for. Then again HR was fun to play
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^^^ not really, the cover shooting was mediocre and if you took even one or two hits you had to hide in cover for your health to slowly regen. The energy system was garbage and you had to wait for it to recharge one bar to do one cool thing then go wait for it to recharge again. Jeza posted:How about : Im trying to find a way to disagree and can't really. I like the game but yeah in hindsight it was kinda meh. I'd argue the ending bit though; the ending was garbage yeah but me3s ending was a garbage ending to a trilogy that spanned 5 years and likely took most players 60 hours minimum to get through. really queer Christmas fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Oct 10, 2017 |
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a bunch of dudes in pyf got really mad at me for saying dx:hr's ending was really bad, that's when i started hanging out there way less
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food court bailiff posted:i really hope that the continued inexplicable success of dark souls makes from make stuff like king's field again I hope the y make Lost Kingdoms 3
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Also the success of Dark Souls isnt inexplicable, because its a well made game, its just todays climate fr making games makes Dark Souls something that was inexplicably allowed to be created. Then again Japanese games were always allowed to be inscrutable and opaque way more than western games were
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FFVII isn't even the best Final Fantasy game for the PS1.
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Meme Emulator posted:Also the success of Dark Souls isnt inexplicable, because its a well made game, its just todays climate fr making games makes Dark Souls something that was inexplicably allowed to be created. you say all of this like from wasn't making good-but-inscrutable-and-loving-weird games for decades that nobody has ever heard of it is definitely inexplicable Cymbal Monkey posted:FFVII isn't even the best Final Fantasy game for the PS1. speak truth to power my man
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Cymbal Monkey posted:FFVII isn't even the best Final Fantasy game for the PS1. Yeah, final fantasy 4 and chrono trigger in one package was awesome, I agree. Those loading times. Oscar Wild fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Oct 10, 2017 |
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realtalk ff8 probably isn't the best but it's my favorite cuz it's interesting visually, does something different with the battle system so you don't really need to grind (well, you do sometimes, but not as much or in the same way), but my favorite thing of all is that one of the first things you can interact with after the intro tells you that all the magic poo poo you do causes severe amnesia and then the player forgets about that poo poo until they replay the game ten years after getting upset at the amnesia bullshit talk about ludonarrative consistency
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Cymbal Monkey posted:FFVII isn't even the best Final Fantasy game for the PS1. Was it Tactics? Because it was.
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Cymbal Monkey posted:FFVII isn't even the best Final Fantasy game for the PS1. That might be an unpopular opinion among retards. Anyone worth their salt knows IX and Tactics are much much better. IV, V, and VI are all better too.
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really queer Christmas posted:^^^ not really, the cover shooting was mediocre and if you took even one or two hits you had to hide in cover for your health to slowly regen. The energy system was garbage and you had to wait for it to recharge one bar to do one cool thing then go wait for it to recharge again. You're not supposed to be a god in this game. If the powers and health recharged instantly you'd have a game suitable for idiots. You have a shooter/rpg hybrid with a multiple angles of approach made after the year 2000. That's kind of unheard of, and it's sad that people don't appreciate it more. But that's why we get CoD 8539 and not a sequel to divided I guess. ditty bout my clitty fucked around with this message at 14:00 on Oct 11, 2017 |
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i'm pretty sure the reason there's no sequel to divided is because it shipped without an ending, which is kind of a big no-no for your oh-so-great not-CoD rpg-shooter-hybrid, and it got justifiably panned for it wait no you're right it's definitely because nobody is as smart as you and can appreciate the candybar munching action of a game that sold millions of copies across multiple consoles and editions, clearly this game that scored 9/10 from most outlets despite its obvious flaws is an unappreciated gem that only you truly understand and acknowledge as the transcendental experience it is you g d retard
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Deus Ex HR's mechanics sucked. The energy pip system was completely, irredeemably retarded and made by people who couldn't think 5 minutes in front of their faces. We'll let the last pip recharge on its own so the player won't be totally left out in the cold. Yeah, go us. Oh wait we didn't consider at all how that actually affects the player as far as incentives to actually play the game go, which is that the player is now rewarded for waiting around and not doing anything while the pips recharge, which they will be doing all the time because you only have one and it took forever. Also as a side note, the most annoying thing about Deus Ex, HR wasn't the energy system, it was the shooting, specifically the bullets. I played with silenced sniper rifles in that game so it was more obvious this way but... the bullets themselves were hitscan, but the bullet sprites were not, they were slow moving projectiles. What this meant was that if you shot somebody with a sniper rifle who was far away, they would react and fall down instantly as they got hit by the hitscan bullet... but the "bullet" sprite wouldn't even reach them until they were on the ground. For me, Deus Ex HR's combat looked about as real as a WWE wrestling match. Every character seemed like they knew beforehand when every bullet was coming and were so excited about playing along that they always dove for the ground too early. I've never felt so patronized in a video game. lol. Standard DXHR Enemy: "Oh crap here he is. Shhhh! Ok everybody you know what to do." "Ahem... AAAHHHH, you got me! I have been bested by your superior stealth combat skills! Curse you!" *gently lays down in comfortable position and closes eyes* GreatGreen fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Oct 11, 2017 |
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Robokomodo posted:Was it Tactics? Because it was. It's actually FF8
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:It's actually FF8 Any person who doesn't know this does not like games.
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GreatGreen posted:Deus Ex HR's mechanics sucked. *in an extremely ditty bout my clitty voice* maybe you should go back to COD you loving CASUAL
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*looks at a game literally titled deus ex: human revolution* "well, you're not supposed to be a god..."
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DXHR's mechanics aren't great but its biggest problem is that its protagonist is a humorless, boring prick in a humorless, boring world. The original Deus Ex's mechanics weren't stellar either but at least you got to play as autistic secret agent superman firing rockets at Illuminati dinosaurs in an undersea laboratory. 90% of your time in HR is spent fighting bland soldiers in office spaces And then Mankind Divided took itself even MORE seriously ("mechanical apartheid" lol), made the cover shooting even MORE obtrusive, and shipped a half-baked game with microtransaction bullshit bolted on. It flopped for good reason
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DXHR had the best cover system animations of all time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y414Q7vVgYU
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