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like the whole "fake emotion" line is also extremely blurry because scum will work themselves up but may not feel any "personal" attachment to that emotion
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But I mean I get the point, like this can shows up even more in real life games where people can literally fake storming off for a bit, and I dunno its gets really tricky there because sometimes like everyone at the table knows its all in good fun and the other player is being hyperbolic (not necessary lying about being frustrated) but then other times it can be real.
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Just treat everyone as not real and every emotion as fake. Congrats u r lumpen
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this community has grown weak for want of a lumpen i m o
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I don't see how appealing to emotion is any different than normal manipulation, or someone saying they're only able to play on their phone when that's not true. Your job as scum is to lie and bamboozle by any means necessary. I always saw appealing to emotion as a very crass amateur play that was a kind of last resort. Sometimes we put a lot of thought and effort into this dumb party game.
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I've never gotten worked up to a genuine anger. More like a mild annoyance, the game being a game. I have played it up before as scum though. And while raw emotion makes me lean town, I don't think I've ever accused someone of doing so as scum. I'm fine avoiding the whole issue though if it's easier on others. It's just a game that should be fun, not bothersome.
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Jonathan Fisk posted:this community has grown weak for want of a lumpen i m o
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Jonathan Fisk posted:this community has grown weak for want of a lumpen i m o I remember when there were many lumpenesques and all posts were a paragraph minimum and people would engage each other with questions, rebuttals, and (my favorite) subtle insults. Now it’s just lurking and calling each other poo poo smh
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Diqnol posted:I remember when there were many lumpenesques and all posts were a paragraph minimum and people would engage each other with questions, rebuttals, and (my favorite) subtle insults. Now it’s just lurking and calling each other poo poo smh There have been recent(ish) games where 3+ players get into multi-page multi-paragraph slap fights and they can't keep track of their arguments so they lose all power to convince anyone else and it's not as good as you remember.
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Oct 12, 2017 23:02
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this community is really hurting without me huh
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Somberbrero posted:I don't see how appealing to emotion is any different than normal manipulation, or someone saying they're only able to play on their phone when that's not true. Your job as scum is to lie and bamboozle by any means necessary. I always saw appealing to emotion as a very crass amateur play that was a kind of last resort. Sometimes we put a lot of thought and effort into this dumb party game. I mean yeah it's a cheap trick and last resort, but I hate when it leads to people seeing actual anger and telling someone that they must be faking it. That's an awful feeling. So yeah, I guess feel free to manipulate me with a sob story or showing emotion because I am an empathetic person who doesn't want people to be actually getting mad in this party game and will assume your feelings are genuine. I feel like it's a low blow for scum to do because it just makes us all a little more callous to each other.
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Snooze Cruise posted:this community is really hurting without me huh Agreed every time I sign up for a game and you don't join I die a little bit inside
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Birdstrike posted:There have been recent(ish) games where 3+ players get into multi-page multi-paragraph slap fights and they can't keep track of their arguments so they lose all power to convince anyone else and it's not as good as you remember. Right? Like honestly Diqnol you rarely play so how would you know what current games are like?
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I would say the only thing I consider off limits in mafia (with the exception of stuff like racial slurs that should be off limits everywhere) is lying about IRL stuff. If you're faking emotions in a game that's a valid tactic, but doing that and then being like "Sorry for being mad my mom's sick" is a pretty dick move.
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But what if you are skiing for a couple days and people start calling you scum (which you are), so you invent a fake posting restriction and then lie about being mad because you got hit with a post restriction. Is that cool?
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Discord if better than sheets imo As a player who doesn't get or fake being emotional in games I really don't know that i have a serious leg to stand on in the discussion from a "modifying my play style" standpoint but I definitely feel like I have misread genuine emotions as faked in the past and would feel very bad if that spilled over past the game or if someone felt like their actual feelings were being discounted as a result of that; I can get on board with eliminating that as part of how I read people.
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What if you post a fake role PM that says you're allowed to post your PM, and the moderator says it's okay, and you get a town dunked based on that fake PM. And also you're town.
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TMMadman posted:But what if you are skiing for a couple days and people start calling you scum (which you are), so you invent a fake posting restriction and then lie about being mad because you got hit with a post restriction. Unequivocally yes
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Definitely seconding rf though, lying about irl isn't cool
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 and let mod sort it out
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Pinterest Mom posted:What if you post a fake role PM that says you're allowed to post your PM, and the moderator says it's okay, and you get a town dunked based on that fake PM. You're probably really cool
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Pinterest Mom posted:What if you post a fake role PM that says you're allowed to post your PM, and the moderator says it's okay, and you get a town dunked based on that fake PM. Jonathan Fisk posted:You're probably really cool
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If this is a party game it's a pretty loving bad party here.
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Oct 12, 2017 23:34
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Asiina posted:Right? I read them and I see the people playing.
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Somberbrero posted:If this is a party game it's a pretty loving bad party here. It's a secret government training program to produce sleeper agents capable of detecting scum IRL
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:It's a secret government training program to produce sleeper agents capable of detecting scum IRL That can't be true, we would have been shut down as a failure years ago.
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Asiina posted:That can't be true, we would have been shut down as a failure years ago. Nah we're all elites we'd never be wrong around normal people.
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Somberbrero posted:If this is a party game it's a pretty loving bad party here. well, look who came
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Diqnol posted:I read them and I see the people playing. I mean then you'd see games like Shine IV or FF6 that had a massive amount of posts and genuine casing going on throughout the entire game.
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Also, is it cool if, as scum, you catch a person trying to make some kind of point by making a bunch of votes and they end up voting for a random word, say Bazinga, so you rush off to votefinder and then assign the that vote to the person thus causing them to hammer themself?
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TMMadman posted:Also, is it cool if, as scum, you catch a person trying to make some kind of point by making a bunch of votes and they end up voting for a random word, say Bazinga, so you rush off to votefinder and then assign the that vote to the person thus causing them to hammer themself? Unequivocally no
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:Unequivocally no I think everyone else would disagree with you. Although I should say that I never the hammer would actually count. I just did it for fun.
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This thread needs more Dragnix.
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TMMadman posted:I think everyone else would disagree with you. It's just annoying, because the vote doesn't count and you have to go back and manually remove it. It's funny. It's not cool.
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:It's just annoying, because the vote doesn't count and you have to go back and manually remove it. It actually counted in the game in question.
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loving with votefinder is a little poor form but if it's from some idiot whineposting go for it
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TMMadman posted:Also, is it cool if, as scum, you catch a person trying to make some kind of point by making a bunch of votes and they end up voting for a random word, say Bazinga, so you rush off to votefinder and then assign the that vote to the person thus causing them to hammer themself? Abso-bloody-lutely
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This reminds me ofMornacale posted:Oh hey, by the way Taste, sorry to hear your dad was in the hospital and I hope things are going well on that front and it's not what had you upset today. Tremendous Taste posted:Nah I made that up, same with road trip and voice to text/"drunk" posting merk posted:I make up being unavailable in games but I think this might be over a line, if a line exists.
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