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MisterBibs posted:I wonder if the fact that the Union just captured a friggin' Krill Battleship is going to come up later. They were collectively excited about having an intact shuttle, having a high-end ship'll make em go bonkers. In TNG et al, the extraordinary feats always came over as "Eh, it's your job" by admiralty.
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Digital Jedi posted:I hope we see Bortus eat nails at some point. I hope we see him just casually eating a bag of nails, since it's become his favorite food.
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Davros1 posted:I hope we see him just casually eating a bag of nails, since it's become his favorite food. "Ugh? is this a screw? Disgusting."
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Kurieg posted:"Ugh? is this a screw? Disgusting." Make him put it in tuna. Do it now.
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evilmiera posted:That might just be a fan theory but holy hell it makes total sense. Especially given what we learn about moklans that one episode with their kid. "Ah, Ecto Cooler. A warrior's drink."
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I took the head scratch as just what Krill heads were like if they were scratched like that. They could be rubbery keratine bands or something, we've no reason to think it's a solid skull or whatever.
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Vitamin P posted:I took the head scratch as just what Krill heads were like if they were scratched like that. They could be rubbery keratine bands or something, we've no reason to think it's a solid skull or whatever. We certainly know little enough to interpret that scene different ways. I thought that big negative effortpost was a joke for a moment when I saw the part about alien prosthetics looking bad. They all look pretty drat top shelf.
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Vitamin P posted:I took the head scratch as just what Krill heads were like if they were scratched like that. They could be rubbery keratine bands or something, we've no reason to think it's a solid skull or whatever. I thought it was a joke and they were riffing on their B qualify scifi/TNG style makeup!
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I was talking to a friend of mine about that, and we were both chortling heartily that both Orville and STD have enemies that wear full-face prosthetics, and the one on network television that is undoubtedly cheaper has better ones that are much easier to act and emote through. I was really impressed by that.
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:
You watched a different TNG than me. quote:It's really a shame that this had to be a MacFarlane project.
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Oct 14, 2017 16:51
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How dare that guy who made a thing i don't like make a thing i like 
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Essentially that's how a Jewish fan of Hitler's art must feel
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Caufman posted:Essentially that's how a Jewish fan of Hitler's art must feel Well except that MacFarlane made some tasteless cartoons, instead of killing 10 million people, but apart from that little distinction -- yeah, exactly the same!
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Oct 14, 2017 17:22
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I said essentially, not in equal magnitudes.
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Caufman posted:I said essentially, not in equal magnitudes. Yeah that's a difference in kind, not magnitude. Holy poo poo
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Arglebargle III posted:No TNG did exactly the same thing. This episode was almost a parody of Face of the Enemy. Face of the Enemy was a parody of The Enterprise Incident though! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITjPZaVBb8I
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The Bloop posted:Yeah that's a difference in kind, not magnitude. Holy poo poo I apologetically retract my joke.
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Caufman posted:I apologetically retract my joke. Maybe now you understand how someone can make tastless and bad jokes but also not be a complete monster and also make good things.
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I understand that much better now and hope others learn from my error.
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Snak posted:Maybe now you understand how someone can make tastless and bad jokes but also not be a complete monster and also make good things. 
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Given how wronged some people act when they hear the McFarlane name, Caufman's joke is pretty apt.
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What the gently caress are you people doing in this thread? Learning from your mistakes and becoming better people?! What the hell? e: to clarify, everything about this show even the discussion around it warms my heart. According to CBS ideally you're supposed to be brooding about committing war crimes or something Tighclops fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Oct 14, 2017 |
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Tighclops posted:What the gently caress are you people doing in this thread? Learning from your mistakes and becoming better people?! What the hell? And debating the morality of nippleclamping a bug for interstellar travel.
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That was a great episode. Very nice to see some mostly solid competence from the crew. The Mercer Maneuver was a pretty good bit of tactical thinking. The mission was both a tremendous success and a failure at the same time. A tremendous success because they not only got the copy of the holy book they were sent for, but they also went beyond their expected mission parameters and prevented the destruction of a union colony and they captured an intact Krill destroyer. ...But at the same time, the mission was also somewhat of a failure, because the intended goal was to get a copy of the holy book as a way to try and find a path to peace. Instead, it ended up making the goal of peace harder to reach. I certainly wouldn't blame the Krill teacher and the kids if their hostility towards humans only increased, even though I don't think Mercer did anything wrong.
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Tighclops posted:What the gently caress are you people doing in this thread? Learning from your mistakes and becoming better people?! What the hell? I always thought Star Trek-like shows made people into worse folks but somehow this is not turning out to be true. More subverted expectations.
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I thought it was a nice touch that Grimes was drinking a beer with lunch.
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evilmiera posted:I always thought Star Trek-like shows made people into worse folks but somehow this is not turning out to be true. More subverted expectations. I don't think it makes people worse, but it does seem to attract really terrible people who take the entirely wrong message.
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People with terrible views seek good things out because they're good, then ruin it by imagining it's good because of things they think are good, which are actually bad things.
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I guess maybe he could have tried to find a light level that would instead incapacitate them and then capture them all, but it would be guesswork and highly risky.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:I guess maybe he could have tried to find a light level that would instead incapacitate them and then capture them all, but it would be guesswork and highly risky. Also, they didn't set the lights to a specific existing setting, they only got them to do that by overloading them. It's possible that setting high enough to incapacitate simply wasn't an option from an engineering perspective. I think this was the best episode yet. It had a really solid and well-executed story, we got some good character development for Mercer, and the humor seemed the most well integrated yet. The shot of the Krill destroyer facing off against the tiny Orville is straight out of The Neutral Zone and first reveal of the TNG Romulan Warbird. The ship design in this is really good. I dig that Union ships have a curvy organic look that's normally reserved for alien designs in scifi.
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I think pretty soon we'll need to see the Krill actually successfully destroy a union vessel though. Right now they're pretty toothless, though they basically incapacitated the Orville in the first episode, it seems like it was a lot harder than it should have been for the class mismatch
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:TNG was always a serious show     Tighclops posted:According to CBS ideally you're supposed to be brooding about committing war crimes or something The lesson from Discovery is that sometimes war crimes are cool, but you still have to remember to feel super bad about them afterward.
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Snak posted:Also, they didn't set the lights to a specific existing setting, they only got them to do that by overloading them. It's possible that setting high enough to incapacitate simply wasn't an option from an engineering perspective. That makes more sense. Like overloading an HVAC component to attack humans' delicate lungs
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You know, the food gag in the cold open subtly relates to the climax with the lights.
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Accretionist posted:That makes more sense. Like overloading an HVAC component to attack humans' delicate lungs I assume this is a joke, but sabotaging an HVAC to distribute freon gas could incapacitate people, but it would be impossible to accurately control the density of freon gas being dispersed. Certainly agreed that we need to see the Krill actually be badasses soon in order to give weight to this conflict. Edit: ^ holy poo poo.
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The Krill have been shown to be a pretty formidable adversary. In the conflicts shown so far, The Orville only wins through some clever tactics that just barely save them. They have a tree grow really big and cripple a ship, someone notices a weakness they can exploit, and then the captain quickly devises a tactic that will take the other ship out. They didn't have an outright advantage in any of those situations.
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Arglebargle III posted:You know, the food gag in the cold open subtly relates to the climax with the lights. Could you spell it out? I'm dumb apparently.
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I can't figure it out either. Is it that different species react differently to things? Because that's a bit of a stretch.
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It's discussion of how his species adapted to their environment, which plays out in how Mercer and Malloy defeat the Krill.
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