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Fill my head with dreams And let me pledge forever more You are all I long for All I worship and adore In other words, please be true In other words, I love you
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Beet Wagon posted:Posting anime in this thread is verboten under the new iron foot of the Beertatorship. All good citizens should do their civic duty and report any anime to the proper authorities, unless it is posted in the Anime Containment Thread. if posting anime is verboten then we need to ban everyone ever, because this thread is peak anime
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# ? Oct 17, 2017 13:47 |
Palpek posted:Lol they sold hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of spaceships to people and now they're using that to make up security issues to further delay another beta release. I'm betting there's already some new higher tier insurence scam idea lurking between future patch notes. Chris has already made it abundantly clear that he has no idea how to deal with the "Have a friend steal my ship and then make an insurance claim on it blammo two ships" issue. At one point he was seriously considering in-game insurance adjusters whose job would be to go around and root out insurance fraud. I believe there was mention that it would just be a job any player could do, like any other mission. There were also some convoluted thoughts revolving around unique hull-numbers and the idea that if you stole a spaceship from someone you'd have to go to a shady dealer to get the numbers filed off which would cost a bunch of money and be dangerous, until it was pointed out that that still didn't solve the issue. As it currently stands in game ships are incredibly easy to steal. Once the 'owner' opens the door even a single time it will open for anyone, but even if the owner isn't there yet, any ship that has a single turret is able to be entered by going to the outside of the turret and selecting the "USE" prompt that shows up because CIG can't figure out the clipping issues. In many cases getting into a 'locked' ship is as simple as using your EVA nipplejets to thrust into it at full speed and magically clipping through the solid wall to the inside. e: unless we're talking about some new news about CIG losing my credit card information or something, which in that case just lol Beet Wagon fucked around with this message at 13:52 on Oct 17, 2017 |
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# ? Oct 17, 2017 13:48 |
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Seriously, DBZ has nothing on this thread. D_Smart is the whiny shounen protag everyone hates, and despite his
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# ? Oct 17, 2017 13:56 |
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Beet Wagon posted:Chris has already made it abundantly clear that he has no idea how to deal with the "Have a friend steal my ship and then make an insurance claim on it blammo two ships" issue. Once subsumption 2.0 is in, the AI itself will resolve all these tough issues for Chris. I think that's his actual plan. I also can't wait to grind up to my next ship by doing 500 insurance claim investigation missions! Engaging gameplay. That's exactly what real insurance companies do as well. They let random Joes off the street investigate their multi-million dollar claims for just a couple benjamins in payment. Rad Russian fucked around with this message at 14:01 on Oct 17, 2017 |
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Insurance scams are easy fix. Giving someone a ship involves transferring rights to them, so there is no 'here you go'. If someone steals your ship, and you want the insurance, you must flag it as stolen. Stolen ship is now marked as open target or some other police poo poo. Still allows piracy and useful theft by some arsehole forcing some arsehole to transfer ownership rights using... some system where something has a value ever. Threats of murdering your player character? ... I have no idea how this game is meant to work. I know all the little side poo poo. I have no idea what the important poo poo is.
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# ? Oct 17, 2017 14:00 |
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Bofast posted:What happens if a player is walking on a ship and the ship flies close enough to a 2nd ship to make the player collide with said 2nd ship? The collision will cause the player to either die or moved off the ship he is standing on. And if he is moved off and doesn't die, he will be back in EVA mode as he will no longer be resting on anything. You can see this in the 6hr stream I recently did btw. Not sure of the time stamp though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0EFo4gYh9Y ----------------
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# ? Oct 17, 2017 14:03 |
Sillybones posted:... I have no idea how this game is meant to work. I know all the little side poo poo. I have no idea what the important poo poo is. Well, you know one thing more about it than Chris Roberts does, at least.
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# ? Oct 17, 2017 14:03 |
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Sillybones posted:Insurance scams are easy fix. Giving someone a ship involves transferring rights to them, so there is no 'here you go'. If someone steals your ship, and you want the insurance, you must flag it as stolen. Stolen ship is now marked as open target or some other police poo poo. Ok so I take the most expensive ship in SC, and let my friend steal it 100 times and flag it all 100 times. I have LTI so I get 100 free ships. I just created 100 copies of the most expensive ship in the game out of thin air.
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# ? Oct 17, 2017 14:04 |
Mangoose posted:That's fine and all, but where is the gameplay? This is the Star Citizen Thread, friend. Moons are gameplay. Everything's gameplay down here.
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# ? Oct 17, 2017 14:05 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPuJUUK-RLs
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# ? Oct 17, 2017 14:07 |
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Sadly I think even RSI/RSI/CIG/WTF aren't stupid enough to ignore any small claim court judgements against them, so I doubt we'll get to see them on an episode of 'Can't Pay, we'll take it away' with middle-aged bailiffs eyeing up coffee machines...wait, they're only in LA, the people making the game have way worse facilities than the marketeers.
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# ? Oct 17, 2017 14:09 |
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Rad Russian posted:Ok so I take the most expensive ship in SC, and let my friend steal it 100 times and flag it all 100 times. I have LTI so I get 100 free ships. I just created 100 copies of the most expensive ship in the game out of thin air. That is how LTI works? You just get free ships forever? But then you could just nose dive into what ever the gently caress you like as often as you like. edit: what the fuuuuuuuck
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# ? Oct 17, 2017 14:11 |
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Rad Russian posted:Ok so I take the most expensive ship in SC, and let my friend steal it 100 times and flag it all 100 times. I have LTI so I get 100 free ships. I just created 100 copies of the most expensive ship in the game out of thin air. Conceivably, this could be somewhat curtailed by the ship manufacturer. Cranking out a Toyota Yaris is a lot quicker than an aircraft carrier. Only problem is...if I spent 2,500 for the Javelin and it gets destroyed, I'm not going to be patient for 4 years until another one is built. In short, game is hosed.
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# ? Oct 17, 2017 14:12 |
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Beet Wagon posted:Chris has already made it abundantly clear that he has no idea how to deal with the "Have a friend steal my ship and then make an insurance claim on it blammo two ships" issue. At one point he was seriously considering in-game insurance adjusters whose job would be to go around and root out insurance fraud. I believe there was mention that it would just be a job any player could do, like any other mission. There were also some convoluted thoughts revolving around unique hull-numbers and the idea that if you stole a spaceship from someone you'd have to go to a shady dealer to get the numbers filed off which would cost a bunch of money and be dangerous, until it was pointed out that that still didn't solve the issue. All these inane roles that would envelope players in obnoxious busy-work that doesn't even involve flying a loving space-ship and ensnare other people in a tedious wait for their claim to be investigated. An insurance fraud investigator turns up, notes that indeed the player's ship is no longer there, and denies the claim on the grounds hahaha gently caress you. I mean the Persistant Alphaverse comes out and all anyone does is steal ships and crash into each other, they can get rightly hosed if they think someone isn't going to take on a job that lets them flush people's cash down a toilet just to troll the everloving poo poo out of them. Any system designed to mitigate the harm of someone engaging in that sort of chicanery just adds even more time. This isn't even "Waiting to get from Point A to Point B" levels of tedium. It's "I get to do loving nothing with the thing I have because I have to wait for someone to finish roleplaying a salaryman and hope he doesn't gently caress me" They have no respect for the people shoveling money at them. One of the fundamental core concepts of something they pushed to encourage people to BUY NOW on things that weren't even in existence and they can't even sit down and think of a way to make it work.
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# ? Oct 17, 2017 14:12 |
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Sillybones posted:... I have no idea how this game is meant to work. I know all the little side poo poo. I have no idea what the important poo poo is. *windmills arms like a man on cocaine trying to guide twenty landing aircraft simultaneously*
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# ? Oct 17, 2017 14:12 |
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Sunswipe posted:Well, you see... Is that the spec for the new :crobberts: emote?
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# ? Oct 17, 2017 14:17 |
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Rad Russian posted:Ok so I take the most expensive ship in SC, and let my friend steal it 100 times and flag it all 100 times. I have LTI so I get 100 free ships. I just created 100 copies of the most expensive ship in the game out of thin air. No, because you see we can't forget that Chris Roberts also wants shipbuilding to tie in dynamically with the economy and local resources so that your replacement ship might only be rebuilt within the next 8 months. This won't take into account striking workers and unethical work conditions or even random acts of nature such as a hurricane knocking out the power generator to the area which the factory is located in.
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# ? Oct 17, 2017 14:17 |
Colostomy Bag posted:Conceivably, this could be somewhat curtailed by the ship manufacturer. That was another thing they considered doing, and may still be considering - if your Javelin gets hosed you have to wait for a new one to become available, in addition to paying your insurance claim fee in SPACEBUX. Since I destroyed your Javelin by ramming it with my $25 shitbox, I also have to pay a fee and wait, but my wait is insanely shorter and my fee is insanely lower so haha gently caress you I'll have a thousand views on the Youtube video of me trolling the poo poo out of you before you even get your poo poo back. TheLastRoboKy posted:All these inane roles that would envelope players in obnoxious busy-work that doesn't even involve flying a loving space-ship and ensnare other people in a tedious wait for their claim to be investigated. An insurance fraud investigator turns up, notes that indeed the player's ship is no longer there, and denies the claim on the grounds hahaha gently caress you. I mean the Persistant Alphaverse comes out and all anyone does is steal ships and crash into each other, they can get rightly hosed if they think someone isn't going to take on a job that lets them flush people's cash down a toilet just to troll the everloving poo poo out of them. Any system designed to mitigate the harm of someone engaging in that sort of chicanery just adds even more time. Exactly. If you don't think I'd sign up as an insuance adjuster in a heartbeat just to deny claims all day then you don't know how little value I put on my time. The thing about all this poo poo is because of the prices they're getting for some of these ships they're absolutely going to end up pissing off half their userbase no matter what they do. It's the same thing for the "How long will it take to earn this in game" conversation. If it takes three years to earn an Idris, it's essentially pay to win for everyone who just bought one instead. If you can get it in a week of hard gaming, all those morons who spent $1500 on their BigSpaceDick are going to be livid. CIG painted themselves into a corner that there's just no way out of, and that's even before we get to the part where they have to make all this poo poo work in an MMO lol.
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# ? Oct 17, 2017 14:19 |
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when da moon hits your legs like expensive jpegs thats fidelityyyyyy
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# ? Oct 17, 2017 14:21 |
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Jobbo_Fett posted:No, because you see we can't forget that Chris Roberts also wants shipbuilding to tie in dynamically with the economy and local resources so that your replacement ship might only be rebuilt within the next 8 months. This won't take into account striking workers and unethical work conditions or even random acts of nature such as a hurricane knocking out the power generator to the area which the factory is located in. Not to mention if some of the AI were slacking off and made some mistakes building your ship. Or maybe the ship specialists were all killed off and so we have to wait for more to be trained. What an exciting game.
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# ? Oct 17, 2017 14:21 |
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Sillybones posted:Not to mention if some of the AI were slacking off and made some mistakes building your ship. Or maybe the ship specialists were all killed off and so we have to wait for more to be trained. I want AI Overseer to be a profession. I get a digital whip and get to mete out the worst kind of electricity to lazy bums.
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# ? Oct 17, 2017 14:23 |
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ewe2 posted:when da moon hits your legs bravo maestro
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# ? Oct 17, 2017 14:24 |
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Beet Wagon posted:That was another thing they considered doing, and may still be considering - if your Javelin gets hosed you have to wait for a new one to become available, in addition to paying your insurance claim fee in SPACEBUX. Since I destroyed your Javelin by ramming it with my $25 shitbox, I also have to pay a fee and wait, but my wait is insanely shorter and my fee is insanely lower so haha gently caress you I'll have a thousand views on the Youtube video of me trolling the poo poo out of you before you even get your poo poo back. Will Robert Space Industries provide us with a Carfax? If I purchase a Javelin I want to make sure it does haven't flood damage by flying over some cryovolcano.
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# ? Oct 17, 2017 14:25 |
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Rad Russian posted:Ok so I take the most expensive ship in SC, and let my friend steal it 100 times and flag it all 100 times. I have LTI so I get 100 free ships. I just created 100 copies of the most expensive ship in the game out of thin air. Its the new guild Meta. Thats why they bough multiple copy of the same ship with LTI. Those ships are "Blueprint Originals" that wil always respawn(with a timer) when destroyed/stolen. You let those get stealed by guildies/allies, thus creating "Blueprint Copies" that cant respawn, but that does not matter untill OPS day since the "copies" are left untouched into hangar. Come OPS day every guild member can go in the first wave with the best ships in game. The more ships with LTI your guild have, the faster you can recuperate loss untill next big OPS. I hope you love big Polaris/Idris dogfights (biggest ships sold with modules built in with LTI, so far) Tl;DR : gently caress interacting with the economy if you have enough LTI ships.
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# ? Oct 17, 2017 14:25 |
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when moon moon hits live and chris does the hand jive that's mvp
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# ? Oct 17, 2017 14:26 |
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Some filthy leaker wrote his opinion on some of the new flight model changesquote:Ok here we go
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# ? Oct 17, 2017 14:26 |
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Beet Wagon posted:Posting anime in this thread is verboten under the new iron foot of the Beertatorship. All good citizens should do their civic duty and report any anime to the proper authorities, unless it is posted in the Anime Containment Thread. These are my kind of draconian measures
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# ? Oct 17, 2017 14:28 |
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I don't know what any of it means but it has to do with spaceships so reddit is freaking out.
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# ? Oct 17, 2017 14:33 |
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Idris, Constellation Space dust surroundin' you Stay there, stretched space dude Citizen Moon I'll make a pledge tonight Mocap celebration Hollywood is calling you Squadron Forty Two Citizen Moon I'll make a pledge tonight But now the funds are starting to get tight When the bills and pays are due Coutts and Co. will rescue you I will pledge tonight Contract termination Breaking the game in two Where, where is our PU? Citizen Moon I'll make a pledge tonight But now the funds are starting to get tight When the bills and tax is due Coutts and Co. foreclose on you Don't turn out the lights I will pledge tonight I will pledge tonight
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# ? Oct 17, 2017 14:34 |
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Kinda wish I was a games maker now, there could be a pretty good "Papers, Please" style game based on being an insurance claims investigator. Maybe include some "LA Noire" type interrogations, some moral choices on whether to approve a fraudulent claim for someone who needs the money, and lots of jpegs of cars the player can buy with real cash.
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# ? Oct 17, 2017 14:34 |
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peter gabriel posted:when moon moon hits live *archering intensifies*
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# ? Oct 17, 2017 14:34 |
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This is very good
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# ? Oct 17, 2017 14:35 |
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I paid for a spaceship that has faster than light capability but I need a friend to manually aim a turret at vanduul swine. Please join my org
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# ? Oct 17, 2017 14:36 |
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Six days till Citizen Con!
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# ? Oct 17, 2017 14:40 |
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ewe2 posted:*archering intensifies* You could never archer from me my friend, you are my evocati and BFF
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# ? Oct 17, 2017 14:47 |
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When the <<USE>> makes you clip and you fall through your ship that's immersionnnnnn peter gabriel posted:You could never archer from me my friend, you are my evocati and BFF god that took ages to find the emotes ewe2 fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Oct 17, 2017 |
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ewe2 posted:When the <<USE>> makes you clip
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# ? Oct 17, 2017 14:58 |
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Not being able to have a really fat character in Divinity is really ruining my immersion.
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Tippis posted:Is that the spec for the new :crobberts: emote?
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