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The N64 was kind of a piece of poo poo that had good games. Nintendo did basically everything wrong possible in the build up towards it and survived on its branding, IPs, and some good contributions by Rare to have the modest success it did. If anyone else came out with the equivalent of the N64 in 1996 it would be laughed at and dismissed as a joke. But that’s Nintendo for you.
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Lunchabully posted:well I did just buy Witcher 3, despite it being this thread's least favorite game. so I guess I'll be disappointed by that first Witcher 3 is good and bad. The combat is mediocre at best and frustrating at worst. The story is the selling point but it's essentially a fantasy novel, interactive dragonlance or something like that. That said, the choices you make all propel the story generally forward toward a similar conclusion but change the story in a very significant way. Choices have consequences, which is pretty new in videogames. The sidequests are super uneven. After about halfway I ignored a lot of the optional side quests unless they were on my way. If you enjoy dumb fantasy novels you'll probably enjoy this dumb game. If uou like the story but the combat is irritating you, set the game to easy.
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Lunchabully posted:well I did just buy Witcher 3, despite it being this thread's least favorite game. so I guess I'll be disappointed by that first witcher3 is as good as they get, it is truly a quality product with all the work they put into it. plus there's no stupid loot boxes to bother you. enjoy that poo poo. beautiful game too, crank up the graphics to max if you can. additional edit: i also recommend playing the DLC expansions, because it's how a DLC expansion should be. knehsa fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Oct 18, 2017 |
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The fantasy elements of the Witcher story can be essentially ignored, it is a game about family that happens to have a fantasy setting, hth. Also the combat is good.
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The last of us would've been better narratively if Ellie was allowed to sacrifice herself at the end Not really an opinion but I'd really enjoy it I'd there was a way to just explore 3d mmo/rpg game worlds. Especially old mmos like eq1 that had like ten expansions. Just let me turn off npc aggro and run around all the areas and check it out
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The Infinity Engine was trash and everything using it or an engine based on it has also been trash. That includes the original Baldur's Gate, the motherfucking KING of trash, up to and including Pillars of Eternity, which I tried three separate times to get into and couldn't manage to get much further than the first town. So...loving...boring.
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William Henry Hairytaint posted:The Infinity Engine was trash and everything using it or an engine based on it has also been trash. That includes the original Baldur's Gate, the motherfucking KING of trash, up to and including Pillars of Eternity, which I tried three separate times to get into and couldn't manage to get much further than the first town. So...loving...boring. Planescape Torment and BG2 aren't trash, but I bounced off both BG1 and PoE fwiw. Don't really think it's the engine at fault particularly, but it's definitely dated as gently caress now. I found PoE very boring also. Durance was the only party member that I met that wasn't written like completely generic garbo. Better off giving all the characters in a game to a single person or small group who can write rather than hand each individual one out to people with wildly differing levels of talent and mindset in an attempt to have characters everybody can love. DA:I is also guilty of that for sure.
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PoE isn't boring to everyone. It's okay if you don't like real-time-with-pause tactical combat. It was an acquired taste for me, but i love that game. I've played it a few times. Steam says 160 hours. Yeah, i've got the second one pre-ordered and everything. That stuff is good imo. The best infinity engine game was torment, which scaled back the use of combat, and is more or less an interactive novel. I haven't got very far in baldur's gate 1 or 2, but not because of the combat. The writing is shiiiiiit and the setting is that kind of generic fantasy, and it's played with a completely straight face. Gross.
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William Henry Hairytaint posted:The Infinity Engine was trash and everything using it or an engine based on it has also been trash. That includes the original Baldur's Gate, the motherfucking KING of trash, up to and including Pillars of Eternity, which I tried three separate times to get into and couldn't manage to get much further than the first town. So...loving...boring. Infinity Engine games are good despite the engine, which is indeed trash. Implementing DnD in real time with really obtuse interface and feedback was a terrible idea.
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Honestly CRPGs are trash, even the ones people consider good, and I couldn't help but laugh when someone called the original deus ex an 'immersive sim'. Hi, in this immersive sim, a cybernetically augmented super agent needs to gain more experience to shoot a rifle slightly better than someone with cerebral palsy.
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Not surprised that hitler would have these opinions tbh
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fruit on the bottom posted:Not surprised that hitler would have these opinions tbh This ain't the thread for popular opinions, my friend.
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Panzeh posted:This ain't the thread for popular opinions, my friend. Touché
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Oscar Wild posted:Witcher 3 is good and bad. The combat is mediocre at best and frustrating at worst. The story is the selling point but it's essentially a fantasy novel, interactive dragonlance or something like that. thanks. my unpopular opinion is that a decent story (especially if you can actually affect its course by your actions), likeable characters, and an interesting world can carry a game through mediocre gameplay, so I'm sure I'll be fine. and I loving love genre trash novels knehsa posted:witcher3 is as good as they get, it is truly a quality product with all the work they put into it. plus there's no stupid loot boxes to bother you. enjoy that poo poo. beautiful game too, crank up the graphics to max if you can. it's currently $20 and includes all DLC, so even if you're wrong it'd have to be really goddamn bad for me to feel like I got ripped off
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Panzeh posted:Honestly CRPGs are trash, even the ones people consider good, and I couldn't help but laugh when someone called the original deus ex an 'immersive sim'. Lol
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facebook jihad posted:The N64 was kind of a piece of poo poo that had good games. Nintendo did basically everything wrong possible in the build up towards it and survived on its branding, IPs, and some good contributions by Rare to have the modest success it did.
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Lunchabully posted:thanks. my unpopular opinion is that a decent story (especially if you can actually affect its course by your actions), likeable characters, and an interesting world can carry a game through mediocre gameplay, so I'm sure I'll be fine. and I loving love genre trash novels If you feel like the main character thinks he’s a little cooler than he is, he does. He’s a badass to be sure, but he’s also a total dork and embarrassing Dad
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Geralt is exactly as cool as he thinks he is.
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fruit on the bottom posted:If you feel like the main character thinks he’s a little cooler than he is, he does. He’s a badass to be sure, but he’s also a total dork and embarrassing Dad Agreed, but it's for the sake of the dramatic action in the game. If a person can't suspend disbelief, then there probably isn't a videogame they will like. Also, almost all the NPCs are peasants.
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The open world in Witcher 3 sucked, the best part were the quest. And now to ruin people's days: Morrowind is overrated and shares many of its flaws with Oblivon and in some manner even a downgrade compared to Daggerfall. The best Elder Scrolls game is Skyrim, it mixes the best parts of Oblivion and Morrowind. Except the quests, those suck. I like Fallout 4 better than New Vegas mostly because it is an actual post nuclear setting (no I don't care how much time has passed and how there shouldn't be any untouched ruins left or whatever) Speaking of, the setting of New Vegas is boring, if the DLC would be part of the main game (say, Lonesome road would be the finale rather than Hoover Dam) I would've liked it much more. Also, New Vegas should've been a top down classical RPG, not a Fallout 3 expansion.
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Khomaniac posted:-Skyrim is noticeably worse than Morrowind and Oblivion, with its generic nordic fantasy setting. Going from (relatively) original IP like Silt Striders to generic fantasy dragons was the biggest let down of the series. At least Skyrim makes sense to have a Nordic setting considering its where the Nords live. Oblivion ruined Cyrodil.
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Oscar Wild posted:Agreed, but it's for the sake of the dramatic action in the game. If a person can't suspend disbelief, then there probably isn't a videogame they will like. Also, almost all the NPCs are peasants. Oh it’s not a complaint, I love all these things about him. It helps that canonically he’s considered to be the whiny one of the group
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GreatGreen posted:I'm still not sure how I feel about the game trading it's Metroid-style roots of slowly giving you more items and tools that unlock more and more of the world for the new philosophy of "we'll give you like 4 tools at the beginning of the game and unlock the whole thing for you at the start" though. I suppose both have their benefits. To be fair, for me the Zelda series has been moderately open-world, with only a few areas locked off via items. You could wander strait into the 6th dungeon in Zelda1 a minute or two after starting the game, if you had balls big enough and the skills to fight your way across the hardest parts of the overworld. Later games strongly changed this, but to me the exploration was always there, just dangerous, Gothic2 style. Breath of the Wild's open areas sounded interesting, right up until I heard how they handled items perishing.
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i don't know if this is necessarily an unpopular opinion for this thread but i rolled my eyes when the little girl died at the beginning of the last of us and then i never really played it again edit: i did watch my roommate play a bunch of it though and i thought the ellen page character was really annoying but i also just have a weird visceral hatred of ellen page romanowski fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Oct 18, 2017 |
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romanowski posted:i don't know if this is necessarily an unpopular opinion for this thread but i rolled my eyes when the little girl died at the beginning of the last of us and then i never really played it again How many dogs have you drowned to feel something, anything at all?
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Dogs are just retarded cats, so when one dies in a movie I feel a sense of relief for his ended torment.
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Bholder posted:The best Elder Scrolls game is Skyrim, it mixes the best parts of Oblivion and Morrowind. Except the quests, those suck. The insistence to keep rereleasing Skyrim and loads of other games for consoles really wigs me out. Like, seriously, who is buying Skyrim new these days? How crazy pathetic do you have to be to buy another console copy of all things?
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romanowski posted:
gently caress you I love Ellen Page. Btw that character wasn't played by Ellen Page, just an actress that looks very similar. Also, yeah, last of us is a garbage-tier game.
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oh yeah I know it's not actually ellen page but didn't they deliberately model the character after her? or am I completely making that up? (I'm probably making that up)
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Officially I don't think they did, but practically-speaking "come the gently caress on"
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ANY GAME YOU LIKE IS NOT AS GOOD AS GAME I LIKE
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Jeza posted:
Awesome, and we just have to deal with incredibly lovely open world games from 2006 - 2049 to make it happen
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There's way more poo poo in games than good, and that's always been true. Open World games are a thing that's technologically way more feasable now, but many of them being bad is not the fault of the genre, just the fault of awful publishers, lazy game developers.
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You people talk about the same three or four games way too drat much. There, another unpopular video game opinion
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I've worked in the video game business since we shipped stuff on cassette tapes. I think Free2Play is mostly bad. This is an ad for a game I wrote in 1982 (ad is 1983). That's $72 for a 32kb game (adjusted for inflation)
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My dumb opinion is that I have fond memories of DK64
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VideoGameVet posted:I've worked in the video game business since we shipped stuff on cassette tapes. Post/av combo winner
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facebook jihad posted:The N64 was kind of a piece of poo poo that had good games. Nintendo did basically everything wrong possible in the build up towards it and survived on its branding, IPs, and some good contributions by Rare to have the modest success it did. There's a reason why the N64 used carts. As you may know, Nintendo was working with Sony on a CD-ROM drive for the SNES/SuperFamicom. I have a theory why that didn't happen. It relates to the Baer video game patent case and Philips CD-I. Nintendo settled with Magnavox on that case, Philips owns Magnavox, Nintendo switched to CD-I to build a drive for the SNES and licensed Link to CD-I. Once they realized what a shitbox CD-I was, they gave up on the idea and had to wait X years before putting out a drive. Oh, and Sony decided to do the Playstation.
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VideoGameVet posted:There's a reason why the N64 used carts. Maybe. I don’t know much about the Baer case but most of the info I’ve read about the Sony/Nintendo situation involved Nintendo getting cold feet and deciding to go with Phillips and it blowing up in Nintendo’s metaphorical face. Plus your argument does not address why they used carts for the N64. Everything I’ve read states carts were used as an anti-piracy measure, to the chagrin of third party developers and basically everyone but Nintendo facebook jihad fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Oct 19, 2017 |
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facebook jihad posted:Maybe. I don’t know much about the Baer case but most of the info I’ve read about the Sony/Nintendo situation involved Nintendo getting cold feet and deciding to go with Phillips and it blowing up in Nintendo’s metaphorical face. Nintendo had a patent for anti-piracy discs. I'm not sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if Philips had a X-YEARS exclusive with Nintendo on optical drives. Oh, and the Baer patent is how one Robert Kotick was able to come into Activision for a very good price in 1991. When we moved from Menlo Park to Los Angeles in 1992, we were down to about a dozen people. The Baer patent almost put the company out of business (we did go into Chap. 11).
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