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Dunno what this means but this seems cool https://twitter.com/PowerbombTV/status/921122532748677125
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Oct 19, 2017 22:20
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https://twitter.com/aiwrestling/status/921125567021363201
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Oct 19, 2017 22:27
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SMV partnership rules, glad to see Powerbomb.TV surprise with great content so far
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Oct 20, 2017 00:05
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It really feels like the WWE Network caused this boom we're seeing in indie wrestling. It feels like indie wrestling has been way bigger than ever the past couple of years and I think a lot of that has to do with it being more accessible through streaming services and partnerships like the one above. I wonder if anyone in WWE thought that their own Network would have this kind of effect on the industry as a whole? Or maybe I'm just overthinking it and the "boom" would have happened either way, but it definitely feels related.
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Oct 20, 2017 00:15
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I think the problem with that is its not a wrestling streaming boom, its a technology/entertainment streaming boom. Wrestling and the Network are just a part of a much bigger change in the way entertainment is being distributed and viewed. Where exactly the Network fits into that much bigger picture and whether or not it sped up all the other indies streaming is something I wouldn't know how to figure out. But I think its logical to say that they would have gotten here eventually just like everyone else has/will. At the same time WWE was probably always going to be towards the front of the wrestling companies because of their money, resources, and needs.
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don't buy it. live streaming existed long before the network and neither the technology nor the content of the wwe network has been used to the benefit of indie promotions. the boom was catalyzed by, in some order a) social media, especially twitter and embedded gifs b) the young bucks getting over on a national level (coincided with...) c) pwg getting over on a national level (happened near-simultaneously with...) d) lucha underground putting a bunch of indie stars on buzzworthy (for a time) television but contracting them so you can only see them at your local promotion e) aj styles leaving tna and working roh/indies and then new japan f) gfw putting wrestlekingdom on trad ppv and pushing aj styles and jim ross g) roh getting trad ppv and aligning with a major-league promotion h) probably years and years and years of slow growth in uk promotions. also "a strong pound" or some nonsense like that, which made it viable for uk indies to book supercards and regularly fly in your aj styleses. I don't really know where all those companies came from but they manufactured some inexplicable talent pool from the loins of like robbie brookside or some poo poo the technological changes were inevitable, it's the confluence of talent and lucha underground/pwg/roh/new japan positioning 'indie guys' as Genuine Stars that drove people out to shows Super No Vacancy fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Oct 20, 2017 |
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Oct 20, 2017 00:29
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you could also include nxt using people you could still catch at your local indie but I wouldn't rate that as quite as significant. chicago crowds for gargano and ciampa weren't significantly bigger at least
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Oct 20, 2017 00:41
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WWE's role was using indie guys as marketable stars and emphasizing their history. NXT may be a fake indie they want to claim as the most important step in a guy's career, but everyone knows where guys like Kevin and Sami came from.
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Oct 20, 2017 00:42
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I'm not sure if the fall of TNA was part of the indie rise or a consequence, but once they started their total collapse (2013-2014) it felt like the door really opened up for everybody else to be the WWE alternative. At least to me, I have no evidence for this other than feelings.
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Oct 20, 2017 00:49
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https://twitter.com/MattJackson13/status/921164455995723778
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Oct 20, 2017 01:04
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the fall of tna is an infinite process but them losing spike and roh definitively becoming the #2 probably put a bigger spotlight on the bucks and styles there
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Oct 20, 2017 01:05
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The indies got hot and people found ways to get content to everyone sooner than like 6 weeks later on DVD. It’s not hard to figure out guys. Yes, streaming existed a while ago, but none of these groups had the money for the infrastructure. Now that that exists in a reliable third party form, they’re taking advantage.
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no wonder you're the sportsgenius
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Oct 20, 2017 01:19
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https://twitter.com/AAWPro/status/921188102537973761
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Oct 20, 2017 02:41
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Can Ultimo Dragon still go?
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Oct 20, 2017 02:47
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i imagine he does like the old guy maestro style?? i half-watched him on that west coast indie that was on floslam one time and it was fine
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Jenkem Delivery posted:Can Ultimo Dragon still go? He's nowhere near the athlete that he used to be but he's still pretty decent.
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Oct 20, 2017 03:05
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He'll be over as gently caress, fenix will bump around for him, and he'll and hit an asai moonsault and everyone will go home happy
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Oct 20, 2017 03:08
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:WWE's role was using indie guys as marketable stars and emphasizing their history. NXT may be a fake indie they want to claim as the most important step in a guy's career, but everyone knows where guys like Kevin and Sami came from. So wait are you saying NXT moved the needle or not
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Oct 20, 2017 04:06
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Him teaming with the big AAW heel is really loving dumb though
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Oct 20, 2017 04:13
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Basic Chunnel posted:So wait are you saying NXT moved the needle or not
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Oct 20, 2017 04:15
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i'm not sure if they meant to turn sami? he did a respect spot with fenix after dropping the belt to him and he wasn't really a heel in the tourney. got wrecked by a heel in fact. fenix v elgin is the big windy city classic match so you might need a heel there
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Oct 20, 2017 04:16
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Super No Vacancy posted:i'm not sure if they meant to turn sami? he did a respect spot with fenix after dropping the belt to him and he wasn't really a heel in the tourney. got wrecked by a heel in fact. oh yeah forgot cobb was the monster heel in aaw
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Oct 20, 2017 04:17
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https://twitter.com/MobilePunch/status/918424792931487744
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Oct 20, 2017 14:50
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LG and Cliff shoulda killed him when they were there.
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Oct 20, 2017 19:22
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The Great Power Uti is a murderer, and I don't know how to handle that.
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Oct 20, 2017 19:32
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Power Uti wore a diaper while doing the murder
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Oct 20, 2017 20:29
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I can't believe Power Uti is alive, or even real.
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Oct 20, 2017 20:37
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https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/921453396678397955
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Oct 20, 2017 23:22
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I mean, as long as they're selling the way they do and don't move to a new venue, they might as well.
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Oct 21, 2017 00:28
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https://twitter.com/TeddyHartIsBACK/status/921495411474554886
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Oct 21, 2017 00:35
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Is this from his dui a while back or something else
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Oct 21, 2017 00:37
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apologize for the pukesaults, Theodore
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Oct 21, 2017 01:54
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https://twitter.com/dashawns2cents/status/921558655744425984
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Oct 21, 2017 03:12
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I hope someone gigs that rapey lil motherfucker
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Oct 21, 2017 03:40
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Imagine not knowing who it was and finding out someone in that picture hosed thousands of women
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Oct 21, 2017 03:49
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https://twitter.com/BrianDaBrain/status/921578797975068672 https://twitter.com/RobBishopSD/status/921579264138395648 rovert fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Oct 21, 2017 |
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Oct 21, 2017 04:29
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Sounds like Brooksy killed it with Haskins.
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Oct 21, 2017 08:26
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Walter vs Ricochet was loving awesome and I am now a big fan of Walter.
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WALTER is my idealized pro wrestler. He's perfect.
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