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I approve of dog based training. Schlesische posted:N: I would also approve of dog based GMing because that sure as poo poo would be better than whatever the gently caress Bergevin is doing.
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Koopa Kid posted:Honestly it’s not like Carrick/Rosen/Borgman have been demonstrably better anyway, it’s basically a stylistic choice that I don’t think really affects the team all that much. If it gets Babs to stop going crazy with his distributions then all power to them. I just really didn’t want to have to see that guy in a Leafs jersey again. It seems like a lot of the smarter Leafs fans would still rather have a bad rookie than a bad vet because the rookie could still develop into something better. While that's still a good general principle, this season's forward group is historically good (for the franchise). Our prospects aren't going to make up for the loss of JVR/Bozak next season and I think that it does make sense to go for the tiny, short-term upgrade of current Polak vs. current Borgman/Rosen/Marincin rather than banking on improvements that may or may not happen over the course of the season. Polak is also a lock to get injured at some point during the season so it's not like the other guys won't have a chance to get back in the lineup when they're ready.
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Ginette Reno posted:It doesn't help that Holtby was also massively poo poo the past two years against the Penguins. Well moreso last year than the year before. He was *ok* in 2015-16. If he was his normal elite self though they maybe win both series. I thought Holtby was pretty good in the 2016 playoff series, he just didn't steal any games for the Caps like Murray did for the Penguins with that one 47 save win. It was a pretty evenly played series by most metrics and the Penguins only won with a +1 goal differential, while both teams put up basically identical shot and save percentage numbers. Thank goodness for double agent Brooks Orpik taking the double minor in game 6  also glad to see niemi gone already
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Oct 23, 2017 17:52
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Vegas picks up Niemi. Fixes him. PenAS melts down.
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iospace posted:Vegas picks up Niemi. I don't think anyone can fix Niemi.
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yellowcar posted:I don't think anyone can fix Niemi. Goalies are voodoo. I could totally believe somebody picking up Niemi and making him a 0.920 Sv% goalie again, even for as unlikely as it would be.
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Kilza posted:Goalies are voodoo. I could totally believe somebody picking up Niemi and making him a 0.920 Sv% goalie again, even for as unlikely as it would be. Stebe Mason went from Calder to garbage fire to renaissance to garbage fire. Kilza posted:Goalies are voodoo.
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The recent PDOcast with the goalie guy was really interesting. He has some strong opinions and I'm curious to see if he ends up being right. Aka Schneider has chronic injury stuff that he will never come back from, and Price will decline sooner than later for the same reason. https://hockeypdocast.com/2017/10/19/ep-200-top-10-goalies/
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iospace posted:Vegas picks up Niemi. I don't think anything could cause us to melt down at this point. Sidney Crosby could retire tomorrow and whatever I can live off these two cups for a long time. Quote this when I bitch and freak out when he gets concussion number twelve Eric the Mauve posted:Haven't heard of them calling Jarry up yet but it's hard to see what else Plan B could be I suppose they could try to trade for a backup like Pickard or something. Although I think with the Sheahan deal the Pens are only like 700k under right now. e: Casey Desmith has been on a tear for WBS so they might just call him up. Jarry hasn't been good to start the season. Ginette Reno fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Oct 23, 2017 |
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Oct 23, 2017 18:38
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Eric the Mauve posted:Haven't heard of them calling Jarry up yet but it's hard to see what else Plan B could be Casey DeSmith hasn't given up an even strength goal yet, and got an NHL contract this season for a reason. I have a feeling they weren't 100% confident that Niemi could cut it, which is why they only gave him a contract they could bury in the minors. Jarry can keep developing, DeSmith can back up Murray (since he's 26) and Niemi can play some AHL games to see if he can get his confidence back and become a serviceable goalie again.
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iospace posted:Vegas picks up Niemi.  i mean, i don't think anybody had high expectations for niemi in the first place. just, they were a little higher than "gets blown out 2/3 of the time"
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romanowski posted:gently caress you vegas take grubauer and give us back schmidt On the plus side, Djoos is looking good. And Bowey is better than Ness and Chorney, if still not objectively good.
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Pornographic Memory posted:
Pretty stupid to start him against Chicago once and Tampa twice though, and with all of those being on back to backs. What type of backup would thrive in those circumstances? if they wanted to build his confidence they should have given him at least one easy start.
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Unfortunately there are no easy starts right now with the way the Penguins are playing. They're generating a ton of chances and giving up a ton of chances.
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HatfulOfHollow posted:I wish I took a picture of the guy wearing a Flyers Elliot jersey on Saturday. It was so random. How do you justify the price of a jersey for a backup player on a 2 year deal who is definitely gonna be out of here at the end of it? Bryz Jersey owns. I say this as an unironic owner of a DiPietro Jersey. yellowcar posted:I don't think anyone can fix Niemi. "I don't think anyone can fix Dubnyk." -Everyone, pre-Minnesota.
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Chad Sexington posted:On the plus side, Djoos is looking good. And Bowey is better than Ness and Chorney, if still not objectively good. Bowey is at least trending the right way, Ness and Chorney are what they are, and that is lovely.
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LumpyGumby posted:"I don't think anyone can fix Dubnyk." Minnesota got Dubnyk when he was 28. Niemi is 34
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Rangers doing 11 F and 7 D again tonight...then are going to talk about possible roster decisions? Dunno wtf they're going on about but it'll probably involve DeAngelo being sent to Hartford for some reason and Holden getting a lot of icetime.
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Schlesische posted:N: V: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_CUrv0aezI AAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaa 
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Call Your Grandma posted:It seems like a lot of the smarter Leafs fans would still rather have a bad rookie than a bad vet because the rookie could still develop into something better. While that's still a good general principle, this season's forward group is historically good (for the franchise). Our prospects aren't going to make up for the loss of JVR/Bozak next season and I think that it does make sense to go for the tiny, short-term upgrade of current Polak vs. current Borgman/Rosen/Marincin rather than banking on improvements that may or may not happen over the course of the season. Polak is also a lock to get injured at some point during the season so it's not like the other guys won't have a chance to get back in the lineup when they're ready. Yeah, end of the day if Babs isn’t going to play anybody and mess around with deployment you might as well give the young guys AHL time (and Rosen needed it regardless). At a certain point this team’s gotta be built so the coach will play them, and it’s hard to argue too much with the approach this year in particular.
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Levitate posted:Rangers doing 11 F and 7 D again tonight...then are going to talk about possible roster decisions? Dunno wtf they're going on about but it'll probably involve DeAngelo being sent to Hartford for some reason and Holden getting a lot of icetime. the team is Dumb as Hell
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LumpyGumby posted:"I don't think anyone can fix Dubnyk." Dubnyk was alright for the craphole Oilers and then served one season as a respectable backup in Arizona. It was a surprising jump to see him suddenly become a Hart trophy candidate with Minnesota, but outside of a couple short stretches he hasn't begun to hit the lows that Niemi has in recent years.
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Levitate posted:Rangers doing 11 F and 7 D again tonight...then are going to talk about possible roster decisions? Dunno wtf they're going on about but it'll probably involve DeAngelo being sent to Hartford for some reason and Holden getting a lot of icetime. I'd rather not have one of Holden or Kampfer in the roster, but 11F works out very well because it means no Cracknell or Carey, and usually one of the Z-men double shifting in their place.
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Zodijackylite posted:I'd rather not have one of Holden or Kampfer in the roster, but 11F works out very well because it means no Cracknell or Carey, and usually one of the Z-men double shifting in their place. yes with those two on the bench I'm OK with it but DeAngelo should get more minutes and none of this "he's gotta go through the process (of being benched for all the mistakes the vets make regularly without consequences)"
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Levitate posted:yes with those two on the bench I'm OK with it but DeAngelo should get more minutes and none of this "he's gotta go through the process (of being benched for all the mistakes the vets make regularly without consequences)" Agreed. He looked good on the first pair with McDonagh, with Shattenkirk taking sheltered starts and getting some extra shifts. Vargatron posted:What's the advantage of running 11F and 7D? More or less, it lets the Rangers include Tony D as a second-power-play specialist plus a shift or two, while letting a vet like Nick Holden play regular shifts. Also, their team is only 11 forwards deep and the extras are prone to turnovers.
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Vargatron posted:What's the advantage of running 11F and 7D? You can deploy specialist d who might not get much 5v5 time but are good on the pp or pk. And more ice time for your top 9 forwards since you're not playing a dedicated 4th line.
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Vargatron posted:What's the advantage of running 11F and 7D? The lightning do it to get the young defenseman soft starts. But it also lets you double shift star offensive players on the 4th line
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Zodijackylite posted:Agreed. He looked good on the first pair with McDonagh, with Shattenkirk taking sheltered starts and getting some extra shifts. Correction the extras are prone to sucking
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Levitate posted:Correction the extras are prone to sucking Yeah, they really belong in the AHL, but I think they also like all the guys getting playing time in Hartford now.
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Ginette Reno posted:Niemi was a decent goalie for a little while though. Until he went to Dallas his save percentage never dipped below 912. Obviously he's incredibly bad now but he was merely average before that. Eh, he really wasn't. He benefited from sitting behind a solid SJS defense, and an offense that kept the puck away from his end of the ice. Even then, the defense scheme had to be adjusted in order to cope with his lateral movement and rebound control, or lack thereof. Someone mentioned his Vezina nomination, but that was during the lockout shortened season. And, yeah, he legitimately carried the team through significant portions of that year when they couldn't score to save their lives, but I have a hard time imagining him doing anything like that over a normal season.
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LumpyGumby posted:"I don't think anyone can fix Dubnyk." I believed Dubnyk would bounce back. 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wccNq0x_UkI Honestly, I... don't disargee with him Am I okay? 
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Sens just called up this guy from Belleville https://twitter.com/sensprospects/status/920113267917410304 https://twitter.com/sensprospects/status/920118850275958784 He has a 1-way contract next year too lol
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Pens called up Desmith so we'll see if he can clear the very low bar Niemi has set for backup Penguins goaltending this season.The Dirty Burger posted:50275958784[/url] I look forward to Reaver giving this guy the worst kind of noogie
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