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Big Bad Beetleborg
Apr 8, 2007

Things may come to those who wait...but only the things left by those who hustle.

Oh duh, you're right. I was thinking someone had gone to the wrong book signing and given Mike something to sign that very much wasn't within his oeuvre, rather than giving the book as a gift or w/e.

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The Grey
Mar 2, 2004

Lemniscate Blue posted:

Not sure there has to be a connection? Probably just some dude named Mike who thinks Art might be interested in Barnes' work for the reasons stated.

Probably Mike is an older fellow because you rarely see anyone who uses "Afro-American" anymore.

You are right... I'm pretty sure the book was just a gift to Art from some dude named Mike.

Steven Barnes is correct. The book is "Iron Shadows". The main character is a hot babe with a black belt who teams up with a black private investigator. This goodreads review of it makes me kind of disappointed that I didn't buy it:

quote:

This is, hands-down, the worst book I have ever read. The prose is awful. The plot is awful. The issues are treated in offensive and gross ways. The pacing sucks. I'm trying to think of something nice to say. ...wait for it. Nope.

This is how bad this book was: my roommate was suffering from severe motivational issues. She was feeling depressed and it was hard to get stuff done. Oh, but I found a way to get her to do anything. I just needed to start reading my book aloud. And I'd hear shrieks of how evil I was... as she was going off to do what she was supposed to.

Originally, I was reading the book aloud because misery loves company. When I say this book has purple prose, I am not kidding. And we're not just talking about over-flowery descriptions. Sometimes, it's a severe wtf moment. This guy doesn't need to just put down his thesaurus. He needs to pick up a loving dictionary!

People do not walk in a "moist fashion." A young girl escaping is not a "trouper" unless she is putting on an act. A 747 is not an "iron bird." Whose legs have "golden contours" when they're vacuuming? Here. Try this:

She was in her early thirties, with an oval face framed by a cascade of small soft blonde ringlets. Her habit of peering out from behind them sometimes made her resemble a mischievous child peeking through a fence. Presently concealed beneath a powder pink jump suit, her broad shoulders and narrow waist rivaled those of a National-class rock climber or competition swimmer. Neither of these were her discipline of choice. Her taut frame seemed knitted of pure energy, forever on the skittish edge of unraveling. Her birth certificate read Portia Musette Juvell. Since her mother's death a decade before, she rarely answered to anything but Cat, and invariably signed or spelled her first name "Porsche."

The bolding is not my own. There's random bolding strewn throughout the book nonsensically. Sometimes right next to italics with no meaning.

Oh, and if you have triggers? Just don't read this book. I don't know what your triggers are, but I can promise you they're covered somewhere in here.

If I were going to summarize this book... Well, let's try.

Women are hateful and full of the need for revenge. They use sex to get what they want, but also to destroy men. Asia and Africa are magical places, unlike Europe. Martial arts! PTSD means you're broken and only magic can heal you. People who have been paralyzed for most of their life will do anything if only you could heal them. Gender essentialism is awesome! Something about tigers hunting together. Incest is complicated.

Oh, and then there was the scene where a yarn bomb tentacle monster anally rapes a man.

You know, can you just trust me? Just trust me. Don't read this. I promise you'll be better off not trying. Please. Listen to my words

Big Bad Beetleborg
Apr 8, 2007

Things may come to those who wait...but only the things left by those who hustle.

The Grey posted:

Steven Barnes is correct. The book is "Iron Shadows". The main character is a hot babe with a black belt who teams up with a black private investigator. This goodreads review of it makes me kind of disappointed that I didn't buy it:

If you're picking between Barnes', y'all should check out John Barnes who had one novel reviewed like this:
"Kaleidoscope Century is one of the most unpleasant books I’ve ever read, I can hardly believe I’ve read it again. All the same it's a major work and very nearly a masterpiece... This is the most unsuitable book for children in the history of the universe... But despite making no sense, rape, murder, and a very unpleasant future, it's still an excellently written and vastly ambitious book, with a scope both science fictional and literary. That's what ultimately makes it a good book, though I do not like it."

Enfys
Feb 17, 2013

The ocean is calling and I must go

I'm trying to remember a book, or a short story, or possibly a story within a book, involving giant hostile whales.

There are a group of characters on a ship traveling across the ocean, and the journey is extremely perilous because gigantic sapient whales roam the seas and destroy ships whenever they can. The journey is very tense, and then eventually a whale finds them and starts wrecking their ship. One of the characters has some kind of telepathic ability (?) and tries to connect to the whale mind only to discover that the whales are entirely without compassion and their minds are too enormous and alien to ever car about paltry human lives...or something like that. The main character on the boat was also possibly the future version (or descendant?) of the main character in the overall story.

This sounds weird, but I swear I read it. Or possibly dreamed it.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Enfys posted:

I'm trying to remember a book, or a short story, or possibly a story within a book, involving giant hostile whales.

There are a group of characters on a ship traveling across the ocean, and the journey is extremely perilous because gigantic sapient whales roam the seas and destroy ships whenever they can. The journey is very tense, and then eventually a whale finds them and starts wrecking their ship. One of the characters has some kind of telepathic ability (?) and tries to connect to the whale mind only to discover that the whales are entirely without compassion and their minds are too enormous and alien to ever car about paltry human lives...or something like that. The main character on the boat was also possibly the future version (or descendant?) of the main character in the overall story.

This sounds weird, but I swear I read it. Or possibly dreamed it.

Face of the Waters by Robert Silverberg.

I mean, it's the closest thing I know, although it's a bit different from what you're describing.

Big Bad Beetleborg
Apr 8, 2007

Things may come to those who wait...but only the things left by those who hustle.

Are they explicitly sapient sperm whales?
Kij Johnson's "The Man Who Bridged the Mist" is a possible contender, not sure about the descendant stuff though. It's been collected in a few "best of" places and won a Hugo and a Nebula for best novella.

fritz
Jul 26, 2003

Enfys posted:

I'm trying to remember a book, or a short story, or possibly a story within a book, involving giant hostile whales.

There are a group of characters on a ship traveling across the ocean, and the journey is extremely perilous because gigantic sapient whales roam the seas and destroy ships whenever they can. The journey is very tense, and then eventually a whale finds them and starts wrecking their ship. One of the characters has some kind of telepathic ability (?) and tries to connect to the whale mind only to discover that the whales are entirely without compassion and their minds are too enormous and alien to ever car about paltry human lives...or something like that. The main character on the boat was also possibly the future version (or descendant?) of the main character in the overall story.

This sounds weird, but I swear I read it. Or possibly dreamed it.

Could it be 'Cachalot' by Alan Dean Foster?

BgRdMchne
Oct 31, 2011

I posted here a few years back, but never got an answer, so I'll try again.

Story about a female dog detective. I think it was in first person. I had it on audiotape in the late eighties/early nineties. I remember the phrase "gray around the muzzle" in it.

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Oct 30, 2009

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Enfys posted:

I'm trying to remember a book, or a short story, or possibly a story within a book, involving giant hostile whales.

There are a group of characters on a ship traveling across the ocean, and the journey is extremely perilous because gigantic sapient whales roam the seas and destroy ships whenever they can. The journey is very tense, and then eventually a whale finds them and starts wrecking their ship. One of the characters has some kind of telepathic ability (?) and tries to connect to the whale mind only to discover that the whales are entirely without compassion and their minds are too enormous and alien to ever car about paltry human lives...or something like that. The main character on the boat was also possibly the future version (or descendant?) of the main character in the overall story.

This sounds weird, but I swear I read it. Or possibly dreamed it.

That is actually my Dishonored fanfic

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness
Short story, probably published in a sci-fi anthology somewhere.

Main character is a man who's ostracized by his gentle future society because he killed someone. Nobody does that anymore, so as punishment they cast him out and genetically engineered(?) him to stink but also be incapable of smelling himself. He makes statues of people with weapons and leaves notes under them to try to get other people to join him. A boy nearly reads one of his notes but then the wind changes and he catches a whiff of the man which scares him off. The note says something like "Pick up a sharp thing and stab, or a heavy thing and crush. They can't stop you." and he's basically an incitement to murder someone because the man is so lonely he wants company or whatever.

SaintFu
Aug 27, 2006

Where's your god now?

DACK FAYDEN posted:

Short story, probably published in a sci-fi anthology somewhere.

Main character is a man who's ostracized by his gentle future society because he killed someone. Nobody does that anymore, so as punishment they cast him out and genetically engineered(?) him to stink but also be incapable of smelling himself. He makes statues of people with weapons and leaves notes under them to try to get other people to join him. A boy nearly reads one of his notes but then the wind changes and he catches a whiff of the man which scares him off. The note says something like "Pick up a sharp thing and stab, or a heavy thing and crush. They can't stop you." and he's basically an incitement to murder someone because the man is so lonely he wants company or whatever.

"The Country of the Kind" by Damon Knight.

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

SaintFu posted:

"The Country of the Kind" by Damon Knight.
Nailed it, thanks. The Wikipedia page for it even mentions that it's in the specific book I read it in, which is in a box in my parents' basement. Problem solved!

Nerdietalk
Dec 23, 2014

A vaguely recall a series about vikings where the protagonist's younger sister is kidnapped and his family seems to hate him for no reason. There's a sequel where the sister turns out to be a changeling and is brought back to the faeries. The protag tries to convince his fake sister and real sister to come back home. I can't remember how it worked out.

uvar
Jul 25, 2011

Avoid breathing
radioactive dust.
College Slice
SF book, maybe from the 70s? Aliens appear on earth and build cities of crystal and light, but don't communicate with us. I'm not sure if I ever actually read it because I think I'm remembering the blurb instead of the actual story. That's not a lot to go on, but I remember the cover too - my memory and artistic skills are not good enough for Google, but maybe someone here might recognise it?


A man crouches behind a rock in the desert at night, looking at a vast structure of glowing coloured lines in the distance.

Take the plunge! Okay!
Feb 24, 2007



uvar posted:

SF book, maybe from the 70s? Aliens appear on earth and build cities of crystal and light, but don't communicate with us. I'm not sure if I ever actually read it because I think I'm remembering the blurb instead of the actual story. That's not a lot to go on, but I remember the cover too - my memory and artistic skills are not good enough for Google, but maybe someone here might recognise it?


A man crouches behind a rock in the desert at night, looking at a vast structure of glowing coloured lines in the distance.

Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.
Incredible.

uvar
Jul 25, 2011

Avoid breathing
radioactive dust.
College Slice

Wow. Thank you very much.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸
That was amazing, both of you

Numbuh 212
Feb 19, 2013

nerdman42 posted:

A vaguely recall a series about vikings where the protagonist's younger sister is kidnapped and his family seems to hate him for no reason. There's a sequel where the sister turns out to be a changeling and is brought back to the faeries. The protag tries to convince his fake sister and real sister to come back home. I can't remember how it worked out.

Maybe the Trolls series by Nancy Farmer? The first book is The Sea Of Trolls where Jack and his sister are kidnapped by Vikings and sold as slaves. In the second book, The Land of the Silver Apples he does find out that his sister is a changeling.

Nerdietalk
Dec 23, 2014

That's the one! I'll have to track down a copy again. Thanks!

Gambrinus
Mar 1, 2005
Repost from a few years ago.

I read this around 1999-2000.

Post-apocalyptic book set in England. I remember flooding down Tottenham Court Road (in London, I was living close by there at the time, so it stuck with me), and some fella (the bad guy?) on an abandoned cruise ship.

There was a scene towards the start when a woman was about to be impaled vaginally on a pole, and the narrator shot her in the head to spare her that.

Atrophy Novum
Oct 28, 2006
They say that you should not believe everything they say.
I have a friend who read a fiction book a long time ago about a pilot who receives signals from another plane but everyone thinks he's hallucinating. Later on he hooks up with a librarian. That's all I got.

Mammon Loves You
Feb 13, 2011

Gambrinus posted:

Repost from a few years ago.

I read this around 1999-2000.

Post-apocalyptic book set in England. I remember flooding down Tottenham Court Road (in London, I was living close by there at the time, so it stuck with me), and some fella (the bad guy?) on an abandoned cruise ship.

There was a scene towards the start when a woman was about to be impaled vaginally on a pole, and the narrator shot her in the head to spare her that.

J.G. Ballard's The Drowned World?

Stuporstar
May 5, 2008

Where do fists come from?

Mammon Loves You posted:

J.G. Ballard's The Drowned World?

There were no vagina impalings in that one though.

Gambrinus
Mar 1, 2005

Mammon Loves You posted:

J.G. Ballard's The Drowned World?

No! Although annoyingly that keeps coming up when I try to Google it.

Mike the TV
Jan 14, 2008

Ninety-nine ninety-nine ninety-nine

Pillbug
A few years ago I found a short story online (full text available to read) about a genius linguist or archaeologist that had just arrived on Mars. The story is very short, maybe just a few dozen pages.
In the story there are native Martians, but they are a dying species. The protagonist has some friction with his coworkers, partially because he is new and is able to gain the trust of the locals quickly, but also because he is quite arrogant.
He is invited to read their ancient texts and eventually discovers that their people have been dying out because they cannot have children and the Martians still around are thousands of years old. He had formed a relationship with a Martian and the twist at the end is that he had impregnated her, potentially saving the Martian civilization.
The story is very pulpy and is written a bit like an heroic epic. Googling is leading me nowhere. Any help would be really appreciated.

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.
Roger Zelazny, "A Rose for Ecclesiastes".

Mike the TV
Jan 14, 2008

Ninety-nine ninety-nine ninety-nine

Pillbug

You rule, thanks!

Big Bad Beetleborg
Apr 8, 2007

Things may come to those who wait...but only the things left by those who hustle.

Trying to identify an old anthology my uncle had about 20 years ago.

The only two stories from it that I can remember as "The Fool of the World and the Flying Ship" and probably "The Yellow/Green/Velvet Ribbon" about the woman who told her husband to remove the ribbon from her neck as she lay dying and her fuckin' head just falls off. There was also a tale about an adventuring boy who found a cave filled with sleeping soldiers and a king (perhaps King Arthur?), and a bell/gong he couldn't ring or else they'd wake up, but that is a bit vague to be searching with.

This version had (I think) an illustrated cover of a garden grove with a yellow title card, but could be very wrong on that.

e: Semi-related, is there a resource where you can put in the name of a story and find the names of collections in which it has been included?

Big Bad Beetleborg fucked around with this message at 23:28 on Nov 5, 2017

Resident Idiot
May 11, 2007

Maxine13
Grimey Drawer
http://www.isfdb.org/ is one such source for genre fiction. The story about the woman and the ribbon is very familiar, and I think it might have been on Pseudopod (or some similar podcast) in the past year, but I just can't place it.

E: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2236282

Big Bad Beetleborg
Apr 8, 2007

Things may come to those who wait...but only the things left by those who hustle.


It's not that one, but that's a handy site to have, thanks.

I'm pretty sure it is this one, because I distinctly remember that cover. Weirdly, it appears to be a revision of a much older anthology from the 50's with some of stories swapped about that looks like this:

Buzzman
Feb 21, 2011
I remember reading a book about ten years ago about people on a tropical island, and I think it was similar to Battle Royale in that there was some kind of "game" going on to kill each other.
There was a giant screen on the island that was constanly blaring music/showing movies and the only thing you could eat was candy from vending machines.
It was designed to drive people crazy.

Anyone know what it could be? Searching google gives me a bunch of similar premises, but not the one I read specifically.

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

by reading this post you have agreed to form a gay socialist micronation.
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Long shot probably - this was a book I must have read in 2000 or 2001 when I was a kid. It scared the gently caress out of me although it seems slightly goofy now. Basically the only thing I remember is that there was a "chest" or trunk of some sort called the "dead baby chest" that an infant (possibly sick and/or crying) had been hidden in to stop someone from finding it. The baby was forgotten and died, and would haunt the hallway or possibly wardrobe where the chest it died in was left. No one wanted to (or maybe no one was able to?) move the chest from that location. There was a crack in the top of the chest that the baby's ghost hand would come out of, and its crying could be heard at night. I think this was a library or bookmobile book, not one that I owned.

I think this was set in a boarding school with a male and female character that may have been siblings, and also there may have been some steampunk or Victorian elements. Something is telling me this might be the Golden Compass but I don't think I've read any of those books and as a huge animal nerd I think I would remember the familiars. I was also obsessed with A Wrinkle in Time and Animorphs at this point, I think it was like a scifi/fantasy story with possibly magic elements? I also remember the cover being brassy or gold/orange in color, with maybe an eye or a clock on it.

chernobyl kinsman
Mar 18, 2007

a friend of the friendly atom

Soiled Meat
been a while since ive read it but i am reasonably confident that there is no dead baby chest in the golden compass

Take the plunge! Okay!
Feb 24, 2007



Something I’ve read fairly recently. Possibly just one of the threads in a larger novel or some kind of a dream/hallucination within another story: a boy travels from a rural area to a large fantasy-type city. I think he might’ve been orphaned and the road was very perilous. In the city he becomes sort of an apprentice in the local police force analogue, although he could’ve gone the other way and become a criminal. Pretty soon he solves a big case/conflict/riot although he still has junior status. The city is possibly under threat of invasion or some kind of disaster? That’s all I’ve got, aside from a strong feeling all of this was actually happening on the sidelines of a wider sci-fi story.

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer
Was his dad a cop as well?

I remember reading something like that last year sometime I think. Guy's dad was a cop in the fantasy world of whateverthefuck and they were in a big city. Dad kept diaries of all the cases and whatnot.

Can't recall the name offhand. Think the main character had some sort of magic ability too...

Isolationist
Oct 18, 2005

The implication.

Take the plunge! Okay! posted:

Something I’ve read fairly recently. Possibly just one of the threads in a larger novel or some kind of a dream/hallucination within another story: a boy travels from a rural area to a large fantasy-type city. I think he might’ve been orphaned and the road was very perilous. In the city he becomes sort of an apprentice in the local police force analogue, although he could’ve gone the other way and become a criminal. Pretty soon he solves a big case/conflict/riot although he still has junior status. The city is possibly under threat of invasion or some kind of disaster? That’s all I’ve got, aside from a strong feeling all of this was actually happening on the sidelines of a wider sci-fi story.

Shot in the dark here, but the galaxy-wide Edeard flashbacks in Peter F Hamilton's Dreaming Void series?

Summary;
Edeard, an orphan and apprentice, lives in Ashwell, a town in Rulan province. A gifted psychic, Edeard is trained by Master Akeem in crafting and modding. Initially a loner, Edeard comes to prominence in his village after designing an alternative pump mechanism for the local well. Unfortunately Edeard's luck changes for the worse after Ashwell is raided by bandits. Forced to flee, Edeard joins the local caravan and travels to Makkathran the capital of Querencia. In Makkathran, Edeard joins the constables and after a brutal couple of months in training, Edeard graduates.

Take the plunge! Okay!
Feb 24, 2007



Isolationist posted:

Shot in the dark here, but the galaxy-wide Edeard flashbacks in Peter F Hamilton's Dreaming Void series?

Summary;
Edeard, an orphan and apprentice, lives in Ashwell, a town in Rulan province. A gifted psychic, Edeard is trained by Master Akeem in crafting and modding. Initially a loner, Edeard comes to prominence in his village after designing an alternative pump mechanism for the local well. Unfortunately Edeard's luck changes for the worse after Ashwell is raided by bandits. Forced to flee, Edeard joins the local caravan and travels to Makkathran the capital of Querencia. In Makkathran, Edeard joins the constables and after a brutal couple of months in training, Edeard graduates.

Yes, thank you! That’s why I don’t remember how the story ended - I abandoned the book because I didn’t like the main plot. But there was something rather compelling about these dream sequences.

SerialKilldeer
Apr 25, 2014

1. An economics "textbook" in comic book form. It starts out with a couple of guys on a desert island, and there's a chapter that's basically a long rant about how awful FDR was. (Title was something like "How the economy works and what to do when it doesn't.")
2. Not sure this was even in a book but I might as well ask: a satire of 9/11 conspiracy theories in the form of a dialogue between members of the Bush administration, showing how they'd plan out what conspiracy theorists think actually happened. I remember people repeatedly suggesting ideas for false-flag attacks and Dick Cheney or someone responding with "Nah, that's too simple."

SerialKilldeer fucked around with this message at 05:40 on Nov 13, 2017

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Nov 2, 2017

by Fluffdaddy
Trying to remember the title and author of a really good short story about time travel. An academic type invents a sort of time machine that will allow scientists to view the past, but not travel to it. It turns out that the device is impractical due to limited resolution as you look farther back in time. He then realizes, or has pointed out to him, a rather sinister implication of the technology. He struggles with the damage his machine will do if it falls into the wrong hands, and considers heading that off by putting it into everyone’s hands. I’m being a little bit vague about “the implication” because I don’t want to spoil it for anyone who, like me, is too dim to see it coming while reading the story.

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