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aborn posted:What the gently caress is this Let me use this example: Imagine four hackers on the edge of a cliff. Say a direct copy of the hacker nearest the cliff is sent to the back of the line of hackers and takes the place of the first hacker. The formerly first hacker becomes the second, the second becomes the third, and the fourth falls off the cliff. Race works the same way.
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Astarath posted:The vast majority of players aren't hackers, the vast majority of chinese players aren't hackers, but you only need 1% of your player base cheating to have at least one person ruining most, possibly even all, games at any one point in time. When most of the people doing the ruining have a common element to their name, that's where the stereotype starts. Is it still a stereotype if that "common element" is mandarin shorthand for hacker and a weibo link? revolther posted:This is also how crime statistics are skewed.
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Oct 28, 2017 21:14
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I have yet to be killed by a sonic the hedgehog impersonator that triumphantly chants "Deutschland uber alles"
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Oct 28, 2017 21:24
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lohli posted:I have yet to be killed by a sonic the hedgehog impersonator that triumphantly chants "Deutschland uber alles" You haven't really lived then
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Oct 28, 2017 22:18
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Hooplah posted:Is it still a stereotype if that "common element" is mandarin shorthand for hacker and a weibo link? well, yes. that's literally what a stereotype is 
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Hooplah posted:Gotta blitz france 
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Astarath posted:well, yes. that's literally what a stereotype is A stereotype would need to be further oversimplified, past the literal fact of the matter 
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Oct 29, 2017 01:53
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10/10 hackers on the NA server I run into have Chinese names. That's not racism.
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 yo post your spooky chicken dinners. here is mine.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bpmm3Li1krI
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Do the Chinese actually cheat more than others, though? I must have played thousands of rounds by now and I've only ever run into two cheaters, neither of which appeared to be Chinese. Sure, the TPP leaderboards are filled with hackers with Chinese names, but those are people hoping to make money, which could just as well have to do with the facts that the game's cheaper in China and that it has only recently grown as popular over there. I really don't give a poo poo about whether goons are politically correct or not, I'm genuinely curious. At the same time, though, it does seem like a bit of a stretch to say that the majority of cheaters is Chinese as a result of their supposed super competitive upbringing. VulgarandStupid posted:10/10 hackers on the NA server I run into have Chinese names. That's not racism. I suppose I may have been lucky and have run into relatively few hackers then. Lex Neville fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Oct 29, 2017 |
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Parallel Playa posted:Do the Chinese actually cheat more than others, though? Yes.
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Do Indians not p!ay video games? No one ever talks about Indians playing video games.
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cosmicjim posted:Do Indians not p!ay video games? No one ever talks about Indians playing video games. An Indian person has never played a video game, no.
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Fauxshiz posted:An Indian person has never played a video game, no. That's what I figured.
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China is a lot richer than India, a relevant statistic as far as online gaming goes is that while 50% of chinese have internet access only 25% of indians do. In a decade or so we will all talk about Indian hackers I'm sure.
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I assume some of the perception of chinese cheating more also come from stories like this http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/10132391/Riot-after-Chinese-teachers-try-to-stop-pupils-cheating.html https://qz.com/96793/chinese-students-and-their-parents-fight-for-the-right-to-cheat/ quote:The rift amounted to this: Metal detectors had been installed in schools to route out students carrying hearing or transmitting devices. More invigilators were hired to monitor the college entrance exam and patrol campus for people transmitting answers to students. Female students were patted down. In response, angry parents and students championed their right to cheat. Not cheating, they said, would put them at a disadvantage in a country where student cheating has become standard practice. “We want fairness. There is no fairness if you do not let us cheat,” they chanted.
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lohli posted:Chinese players being problematic due to cheating isn't anything new, there's a cultural thing about how it's only bad if you get caught, and it's fed by a super competitive and high social/parental pressure environment that has people cheating in exams and poo poo to get ahead in life and why China is world renowned for garbage imitation goods that break and sub-standard steel, and that attitude has Chinese players cheating way more than others. The best/worst example of this I remember is in the minecraft zombie game 7daystodie, where if you don't IP range ban china you're guaranteed to have your server griefed to poo poo by hackers constantly. just google chabuduo its the same attitude making cheating on quality okay that makes cheating on anything okay
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underage at the vape shop posted:just google chabuduo https://aeon.co/essays/what-chinese-corner-cutting-reveals-about-modernity http://tw.forumosa.com/t/mr-cha-buduo-a-translation/85249 Chinese people love cheating. I live in Taiwan.
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I play mostly TPP squads, and we've run into countless hackers over the course of my 1,000+ hours in game. Every single one of them has a name like xiao696942 or something similar. Chinese players like to cheat. gently caress it. Whatever. Makes killing them much sweeter.
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Hopefully they tank the value of boxes and cosmetics enough that it’s not economical for them keep buying new accounts with their illgotten bps, but that would only last until they introduce a new crate.
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cosmicjim posted:Hopefully they tank the value of boxes and cosmetics enough that it’s not economical for them keep buying new accounts with their illgotten bps, but that would only last until they introduce a new crate. Look as long as the pubg box economy exists I get a dandy 5 dollar discount on dumb video games on steam once a month, so.
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Count Bleck posted:Look as long as the pubg box economy exists I get a dandy 5 dollar discount on dumb video games on steam once a month, so. This is true. I currently make about $1.50 a week playing this game. Edit - Looks like someone made another big gamescom crate buy. They are over $5 again. cosmicjim fucked around with this message at 14:37 on Oct 29, 2017 |
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We veered away from the valuting update discussion so gently caress the silly casual non-racism discussion and let's get back on track. I have a feeling that the way Bluehole acquits itself of the vaulting and climbing game mechanics and implementation will effectively tell us how well the rest of the game improvement will go. The basic design stuff like the sound design needs to be fixed and I have this sinking feeling BH might not be able to actually finish this game off properly or won't because of pressure to release or corner cutting or whatever. It's obvious though that the popularity of battle royale with semi simulation/realistic gunfighting is popular and we all keep saying "SOMEBODY COULD DO BETTER". I think somebody will but I'm wondering who it might be. Any ideas what engine/company/franchise/indie studio could steal PUBG's lunch? Someone said Facepunch/Garry and I would be super stoked about that if they took the Rust engine tooled it up a bit more for BR. Someone already is working on this exact idea it seems. http://rustbattleroyale.com/ Anybody tried it?
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thegoat posted:https://aeon.co/essays/what-chinese-corner-cutting-reveals-about-modernity Yes, all of this. I lived in Shanghai for awhile. Cheating is not necessarily seen as anything bad, culturally it just means to an end and whatever's most convenient and expedient. See also: piracy, knock-off anything, bribery, government contractors leading to building collapse, etc. sticksy fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Oct 29, 2017 |
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Ninjalicious posted:We veered away from the valuting update discussion so gently caress the silly casual non-racism discussion and let's get back on track. I have a feeling that the way Bluehole acquits itself of the vaulting and climbing game mechanics and implementation will effectively tell us how well the rest of the game improvement will go. The basic design stuff like the sound design needs to be fixed and I have this sinking feeling BH might not be able to actually finish this game off properly or won't because of pressure to release or corner cutting or whatever. I don't know if the rust team would be an improvement
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Ninjalicious posted:We veered away from the valuting update discussion so gently caress the silly casual non-racism discussion and let's get back on track. I have a feeling that the way Bluehole acquits itself of the vaulting and climbing game mechanics and implementation will effectively tell us how well the rest of the game improvement will go. The basic design stuff like the sound design needs to be fixed and I have this sinking feeling BH might not be able to actually finish this game off properly or won't because of pressure to release or corner cutting or whatever. Probably in a year or two EA will put out a Battlefield: Battle Royale and we'll all grudgingly play it because even though it's EA and they will make us use their launcher and a stupid browser based matchmaker and do some preorder fuckery where you can only get a ghillie suit if you buy the special gamestop edition it will be the most polished and finished BR game of the rapidly growing shitheap.
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I'm sorry but you're wrong I will never buy a game on origin.
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New Zealand can eat me posted:I'm sorry but you're wrong I will never buy a game on origin. Good point, I also can't picture myself buying a game on origin either which kinda pokes holes in my theory.
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Yeah Dice's offerings have been progressively worse since BC2 with no inidication they're aware.
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AlternateAccount posted:Yeah Dice's offerings have been progressively worse since BC2 with no inidication they're aware. They basically don’t care about the PC market because they get so many pack-in deals with consoles. But that tick rate, though.
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Wait, are they still doing the dumb browser based stuff? I haven’t played a Battlefield game in any capacity since the one where you could blow up the big dumb skyscraper.
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https://clips.twitch.tv/SpikyZanyCockroachThisIsSparta
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Battle Royale in Fortnite seems to be a lot of fun, and is picking up popularity. With a few more content patches I think they could be the ones to take PUBG down, but not really, much like how FPS games came after CSGO, or moba's came out after DOTA 2, it's going to be pretty strong due to being first.
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Turtlicious posted:Battle Royale in Fortnite seems to be a lot of fun, and is picking up popularity. With a few more content patches I think they could be the ones to take PUBG down, but not really, much like how FPS games came after CSGO, or moba's came out after DOTA 2, it's going to be pretty strong due to being first. Also Fortnite completely fails in terms of: Ninjalicious posted:the popularity of battle royale with semi simulation/realistic gunfighting I think a lot of people aren't giving enough consideration to the fact that part of PUBG's popularity stems from it being one of the first ARMA-likes that is easily accessible to a wider-audience.
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Turtlicious posted:Battle Royale in Fortnite seems to be a lot of fun, and is picking up popularity. I just can't take it seriously. It's like WoW. Yeah it was super popular but it looked so stupid (to me).
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