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votefinder
Jul 6, 2010

scoop scoop
Votecount for Day 2



Not Voting (11): Asiina, b-minus1, Chic Trombone, Dancer, jon joe, Juchero, Li Dawny, NevergirlsOFFICIAL, PMush Perfect, SalTheBard, Yorkshire Tea

With 11 alive, it's 6 votes to execute. The current deadline is November 02nd, 2017 at 8 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 2 days, 12 hours.

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girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
Still looks the same to me.

Dans Macabre
Apr 24, 2004


PMush Perfect posted:

Still looks the same to me.

Yeah 😕 ##vote pmush

Natural 20
Sep 17, 2007

Wearer of Compasses. Slayer of Gods. Champion of the Colosseum. Heart of the Void.
Saviour of Hallownest.

Asiina posted:

##vote Sal would also vote YT. I have determined that CPig is also town in this game along with me and Hal.

I have yet to make a decision on the rest of you.

So I think this is the most telling piece from yesterday in light of the NK.

I'm not quite sure how to phrase this but, it makes me feel Asiina's either strongly town or strongly scum with no real in between. I'm not sure that makes sense, but it's a gut feeling more than anything.

As a result I feel like an examination of Sal would be interesting. For people who aren't me, examining my own behaviour would probably also be a good idea.

SalTheBard
Jan 26, 2005

I forgot to post my food for USPOL Thanksgiving but that's okay too!

Fallen Rib
I'm town.

Natural 20
Sep 17, 2007

Wearer of Compasses. Slayer of Gods. Champion of the Colosseum. Heart of the Void.
Saviour of Hallownest.

So am I, that doesn't mean that investigating us wouldn't be profitable since doing so gives additional insight on Asiina.

Dans Macabre
Apr 24, 2004


I’m also town

Dans Macabre
Apr 24, 2004


I want my av to say Mafia MVP

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

Yorkshire Tea posted:

So I think this is the most telling piece from yesterday in light of the NK.

I'm not quite sure how to phrase this but, it makes me feel Asiina's either strongly town or strongly scum with no real in between. I'm not sure that makes sense, but it's a gut feeling more than anything.

As a result I feel like an examination of Sal would be interesting. For people who aren't me, examining my own behaviour would probably also be a good idea.

That is interesting. Asiina's strongest town reads, Hal and Cpig, were both correct. We lynched Hal and Cpg was nk'd. Obviously the scum would know the alignment (or at least, not scum) or Hal and cpig already. So it is a little surprising they chose to kill cpig instead of Asiina, who actually provided the town reads. I need to go back and look at the rest of asiina's and cpig's posts.

Not sure what to thinkabout Sal or you (yt) at the moment.

SalTheBard
Jan 26, 2005

I forgot to post my food for USPOL Thanksgiving but that's okay too!

Fallen Rib

Yorkshire Tea posted:

So am I, that doesn't mean that investigating us wouldn't be profitable since doing so gives additional insight on Asiina.

Yep agree with you 100%

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer
Maybe I'm just really good at this game.

Also goddamnit Hal.

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

A Winner is you!

Asiina posted:

Also goddamnit Hal.

:ghost: L M A O :ghost:

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer

Emmideer
Oct 20, 2011

Lovely night, no?
Grimey Drawer
It’s still Sal.

I refuse to believe Asiina deserves a new avatar.

Emmideer
Oct 20, 2011

Lovely night, no?
Grimey Drawer
Because really it’d be such a shame for her current one to vanish

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer
It's me, I'm the scum.

I knew Hal and CPig were town all along.

Emmideer
Oct 20, 2011

Lovely night, no?
Grimey Drawer

Asiina posted:

It's me, I'm the scum.

I knew Hal and CPig were town all along.

I don’t believe you.

SalTheBard
Jan 26, 2005

I forgot to post my food for USPOL Thanksgiving but that's okay too!

Fallen Rib

jon joe posted:

It’s still Sal.

I'm sorry I don't understand your post. I have no reason to lie :-/

Dans Macabre
Apr 24, 2004


let's all fullclaim I'm vanilla town

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before
Here’s a fullclaim: all lurkers are scum

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

Asiina posted:

Also goddamnit Hal.

:ghost: But it's perfect for you! I feel like Sal doesn't even know me... :ghost:

Li Dawny
Apr 14, 2013

Yorkshire Tea posted:

So I think this is the most telling piece from yesterday in light of the NK.

I'm not quite sure how to phrase this but, it makes me feel Asiina's either strongly town or strongly scum with no real in between. I'm not sure that makes sense, but it's a gut feeling more than anything.

As a result I feel like an examination of Sal would be interesting. For people who aren't me, examining my own behaviour would probably also be a good idea.

b-minus1 posted:

That is interesting. Asiina's strongest town reads, Hal and Cpig, were both correct. We lynched Hal and Cpg was nk'd. Obviously the scum would know the alignment (or at least, not scum) or Hal and cpig already. So it is a little surprising they chose to kill cpig instead of Asiina, who actually provided the town reads. I need to go back and look at the rest of asiina's and cpig's posts.

Not sure what to thinkabout Sal or you (yt) at the moment.

Something about this makes me feel Asiina/b-minus1 scum team. I feel like YT was trying to push some critical thinking on Asiina and B jumped in to deflect. My theory is Asiina, to try and clinch a town slot, named two town. Once one was lynched and flipped town, they killed CPig to give credence to her town claim knowing he would also flip town. Once YT started sniffing around, scum buddy B moved in to try and shift suspicion elsewhere.

Juchero
Feb 15, 2008


Wedge Regret
b minus is still my pick but I need a little time to reread

busy with a moooove

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer
Why would making a town claim give me town cred?

Li Dawny
Apr 14, 2013

Asiina posted:

Why would making a town claim give me town cred?

Making two correct calls makes you more trustworthy.

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer
Why?

Dancer
May 23, 2011

Yorkshire Tea posted:

So I think this is the most telling piece from yesterday in light of the NK.

I'm not quite sure how to phrase this but, it makes me feel Asiina's either strongly town or strongly scum with no real in between. I'm not sure that makes sense, but it's a gut feeling more than anything.

As a result I feel like an examination of Sal would be interesting. For people who aren't me, examining my own behaviour would probably also be a good idea.

This is basically the first slightly more elaborate post you've made so far, and you're not actually saying anything of substance.
"Hey maybe Asiina's good maybe he's bad I dunno. Maybe we should ~examine some people~." I don't post much and that makes me a lurker but you're just posting random noise trying to not seem like one.
You also voted for confirmed townie Hal.

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

Li Dawny posted:

Something about this makes me feel Asiina/b-minus1 scum team. I feel like YT was trying to push some critical thinking on Asiina and B jumped in to deflect. My theory is Asiina, to try and clinch a town slot, named two town. Once one was lynched and flipped town, they killed CPig to give credence to her town claim knowing he would also flip town. Once YT started sniffing around, scum buddy B moved in to try and shift suspicion elsewhere.

I'm confused why you think I was deflecting. If anything, I was doing the opposite, trying to understand why Cpig was killed instead of Asiina, the person who actually provided the town reads of Hal and Cpig (along with a few scum reads actually). Where exactly do you think I have shifted the suspicion?

I just finished reading Cpig's posts, and nothing is jumping out at me. He didn't post much during d1, and only made two (imo) legitimate votes, an early one for me, followed by a final vote for YT. (he voted for pmush after she fakeclaimed).

Dancer
May 23, 2011
hashtagnewavie thanks CPig you da best <3

Li Dawny
Apr 14, 2013

b-minus1 posted:

I'm confused why you think I was deflecting. If anything, I was doing the opposite, trying to understand why Cpig was killed instead of Asiina, the person who actually provided the town reads of Hal and Cpig (along with a few scum reads actually). Where exactly do you think I have shifted the suspicion?

I just finished reading Cpig's posts, and nothing is jumping out at me. He didn't post much during d1, and only made two (imo) legitimate votes, an early one for me, followed by a final vote for YT. (he voted for pmush after she fakeclaimed).

Because YT was all “we need to look closer into Asiina” and you went to “scum should have killed Asiina not CPig”. The way you phrased it, at least to me, seemed like you were trying to remove the idea that Asiina could be scum.

Li Dawny
Apr 14, 2013


Because you were right twice. The two ways I see this happening is you’re scum, or you’re extremely good at this game/lucky.

Emmideer
Oct 20, 2011

Lovely night, no?
Grimey Drawer
I love wine.

Emmideer
Oct 20, 2011

Lovely night, no?
Grimey Drawer
Li Dawny + Sal avatar friends

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

Li Dawny posted:

Because YT was all “we need to look closer into Asiina” and you went to “scum should have killed Asiina not CPig”. The way you phrased it, at least to me, seemed like you were trying to remove the idea that Asiina could be scum.

Gotcha. In retrospect I can see why it seems like I was trying to steer the focus from scum asiina to town asiina. That wasn’t my intention. Though just so we are clear, I am leaning town on asiina the moment. Not because of the town reads/“being right twice”, but because it just seems like such a poor scum play to try to build that much town credibility on d1, including killing the other town player in her read.

Juchero
Feb 15, 2008


Wedge Regret

Juchero posted:

five bucks(not a real bet) says i can find it

Juchero posted:

oh lol we're starting


:thunk:

##vote Dancer

Okay here's the deal, I'm very busy and I wanted to do this right but I'm cop, b-minus isn't scum.

I'll be back later with cases.

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

Juchero posted:

Okay here's the deal, I'm very busy and I wanted to do this right but I'm cop, b-minus isn't scum.

I'll be back later with cases.

Dude. What the hell

Natural 20
Sep 17, 2007

Wearer of Compasses. Slayer of Gods. Champion of the Colosseum. Heart of the Void.
Saviour of Hallownest.

Dancer posted:

This is basically the first slightly more elaborate post you've made so far, and you're not actually saying anything of substance.
"Hey maybe Asiina's good maybe he's bad I dunno. Maybe we should ~examine some people~." I don't post much and that makes me a lurker but you're just posting random noise trying to not seem like one.
You also voted for confirmed townie Hal.

Well no. It's not saying nothing, it's saying that I think having a look at two specific individuals, myself and Sal would be profitable for the game to reveal Asiina's alignment details.

What this means in shorthand is that I think investigative roles would be smart to check us out tonight unless the flip today changes something drastic about those assumptions. Additionally it means that if people want a starting point for casing individuals it would additionally be good to look at me and Sal.

Given that it was like, the second post of the day and that I was doing it on my lunch break, I think it's fairly inconspicuous to suggest targets for people to examine early.

Dismissing that as random noise when you've been lurking like hell is mighty odd imo.

Li Dawny posted:

Something about this makes me feel Asiina/b-minus1 scum team. I feel like YT was trying to push some critical thinking on Asiina and B jumped in to deflect. My theory is Asiina, to try and clinch a town slot, named two town. Once one was lynched and flipped town, they killed CPig to give credence to her town claim knowing he would also flip town. Once YT started sniffing around, scum buddy B moved in to try and shift suspicion elsewhere.


I can see the argument that you successfully identifying two town makes you a credible town player.

The major problem I have with that case is that it's like scum 101. Were you scum you never would have killed CPig because it's just such an obvious move to get town credit. It's just not a play I'd reasonably expect from an Asiina/b-minus scum team.

That being said the converse is also true. Killing Cpig, resulting in discussion centred on you with the aim of voting you out is also Scum 101.

We can get into elaborate double/triple bluff territory but that could honestly go for hours. Basically I think Li's case has at least some grounding in the game, but it's not my immediate instinct about what's going on.

However:

SalTheBard posted:

First vote is always hard so I went to google, and generated a random number (which was 6)

##Vote Hal Incandenza

SalTheBard posted:

I thought it was a good idea. Although much like Dr Sean from Survivor probably not a winning strategy I the end.


SalTheBard posted:

Yep agree with you 100%

SalTheBard posted:

I'm sorry I don't understand your post. I have no reason to lie :-/

This is the sum total of all of Sal's content since jokephase ended. The only thing approaching any sort of opinion or read is to blindly agree with me subsequent to my claim that Sal should be investigated.

Like I get Sal is new to this, but realistically in the last peragame he scooted by as Kira by just openly saying he had no idea what was going on. Whether that was by intent or not isn't relevant so much as he's come really close to pulling it off before.

##vote Sal

Dans Macabre
Apr 24, 2004


Juchero posted:

Okay here's the deal, I'm very busy and I wanted to do this right but I'm cop, b-minus isn't scum.

I'll be back later with cases.

lmao

Dans Macabre
Apr 24, 2004


b-minus1 posted:

Here’s a fullclaim: all lurkers are scum

agreed 100% I will analyze posts with my super duper computer, stand by

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Dans Macabre
Apr 24, 2004




## vote Chic Trombone

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