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few 25 rounds in hydron with all un leveled stuff will get your mastery up super quick.
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Holyshoot posted:few 25 rounds in hydron with all un leveled stuff will get your mastery up super quick. Hydron has the most obnoxious map layout for not just ability spamming. Khorne fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Nov 2, 2017 |
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It's called "catch Tallgeese while he happens to be around, carry corpro". You're welcome!
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Duck and Cover posted:I have a 15 mr riven, which saddens me and is going to be such a bother to get to. 
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And Tyler Too! posted:Does this apply even if you already have a bunch of stuff unlocked prior to the new chart? I got grandfathered in but I have to do the junctions, depsite being able to do the worlds they unlock. Junctions give a big chunk of mastery when you beat them (first time only) IIRC.
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:i ground up for a 16 MR riven, then i ended up getting a much better 9 MR riven, which was the mastery rank I was when I started the grind Mine's tri damage (2 elements/and a everything) -status duration galaxion things gonna die.
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Goons are always running Hydron. Three runs will take poo poo from 0 to 30.
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Khorne posted:You can't actually catch up because of the lovely login reward system. I don't mind when they do this if the mod can be gotten by other methods. But yeah it sucks that you can't get this in any way. Same thing with P Fury. Elysiume posted:Clearing the starchart also does mastery progress, but you'll finish the starchart long before you run out of weapons to level up. Warframes/sentinels/archwings/etc. all give mastery as well, but yeah, the vast majority of your mastery time will be leveling and dumping weapons. Didn't know this... Never actually cleared all the starmap and I'm MR 22. Elmon fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Nov 2, 2017 |
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Elmon posted:Didn't know this... Never actually cleared all the starmap and I'm MR 22.
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Elysiume posted:It doesn't give much. It's 1000 per junction and ~65 per mission, while weapons are 3000 and frames are 6000. Clearing every mission on the map is less mastery than leveling five weapons, and adding in the junctions brings it to around ten weapons. I've cleared few junctions. So might as well get them and the missions out of the way. Though I think I'l continue not getting gara for now.
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Elmon posted:I don't mind when they do this if the mod can be gotten by other methods. But yeah it sucks that you can't get this in any way. Same thing with P Fury. And then you'd get players complaining logging in everyday is meaningless because it gives you nothing special.
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wid posted:And then you'd get players complaining logging in everyday is meaningless because it gives you nothing special. I'd much prefer that. gently caress veteran priority. It creates a toxic environment that stops new blood in a game.
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Elmon posted:I'd much prefer that. gently caress veteran priority. It creates a toxic environment that stops new blood in a game. We had that before. There was no veteran reward and the most you get is a slightly better random roll if you logged in 7 days straight. There was a huge outcry by "veterans". Even in this thread we had a guy complaining about the login rewards being uncatchable while at the same time complaining his many hours before the system was not appreciated. Basically what I'm saying is there is no system that will make everyone happy. There is no such thing as "catching up" because what that means is just a way to gobble up content in a short amount of time while people who are ahead of you will always be ahead of you because they will ride the same system.
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it's not like primed mods are anything but gross excess anyways in this game
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wid posted:We had that before. There was no veteran reward and the most you get is a slightly better random roll if you logged in 7 days straight. There was a huge outcry by "veterans". Even in this thread we had a guy complaining about the login rewards being uncatchable while at the same time complaining his many hours before the system was not appreciated. The only outcry I really remember with that was that 7 day rewards were actually worse than the 1-3 days. That system pushed people to not login as often if they wanted a 75% off coupon. Other than that I remember no complaining. I also don't see how we only have the old system or giving veterans items that make them have objectively better poo poo. Unobtainable by new players for another 599 days. Elmon fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Nov 3, 2017 |
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Just make everything tradeable.
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Avulsion posted:Just make everything tradeable. While it sounds nice, it creates an issue with people creating accounts to farm daily rewards. At least that was their reason I'm pretty sure for making Primed Fury untradable.
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It just stands out because most of the truly gated content is just cosmetic. There's not a lot of play altering options that are locked like that.
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Leveling is unfun in this game. Maybe I want to shoot dudes with good guns instead of constantly running garbage on hydron just to get my next mastery rank.
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Duck and Cover posted:Leveling is unfun in this game. Maybe I want to shoot dudes with good guns instead of constantly running garbage on hydron just to get my next mastery rank. Warframe feels like a game that is being designed with the existing, long term playerbase in mind without much regard for new players. I was hundreds of hours into the game by the time I was able to build one of the five Tigris Prime sets I had collected.
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Duck and Cover posted:Leveling is unfun in this game. Maybe I want to shoot dudes with good guns instead of constantly running garbage on hydron just to get my next mastery rank. It's okay to just play the game with the guns you like and frame you like. Farm focus or mats instead, and have fun. There's definitely a balancing act, but you don't NEED to always be farming mastery in every slot. Heck, there are more than 3 fun frames or guns. If you never had any incentive to try new stuff you might never realize that and get burned out after you find the first few things that seem fun. Mirage and Glaive had no appeal to me, but then I made both for mastery fodder and realized how bananas having hall of mirrors and a ton of glaives bouncing everywhere while I somersault around the map is. Nor would I have tried Banshee and realized how great her fun build was if I'd only gone by seeing folks build/spam soundquake.
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Coolness Averted posted:I kinda disagree. I think the model for the leveling is smart and good, even if it needs some tweaking. Like MR gated gear should be unlocked by MR 10 or so in the grind, that's when it becomes a slog, and if all MR got you from then on out was just an easier time going crazy with new MR fodder and forma'd gear, or other endgame/completionist junk like rivens there'd be less bitching. I wouldn't have as much of a problem with the MR gating if guns that seem baseline top tier were available earlier on. The Hek is a good example of a good early weapon, and the Vaykor manages to feel enough like a distinct side grade that I both didn't feel compelled to grind for it and still enjoy using it more than the Hek.
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I wish having to re-level something after Forma was dead and buried. I have enough mastery trash baking in my oven, I don't want to have to visit Hydron if I can avoid it.
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I usually just do 15 rounds of Akaad. If you have an affinity booster and run with just the weapon you want to level, that'll usually get it done. Frames'll take a little longer.
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Coolness Averted posted:I kinda disagree. I think the model for the leveling is smart and good, even if it needs some tweaking. Like MR gated gear should be unlocked by MR 10 or so in the grind, that's when it becomes a slog, and if all MR got you from then on out was just an easier time going crazy with new MR fodder and forma'd gear, or other endgame/completionist junk like rivens there'd be less bitching. I'm willing to try new things I don't like being coerced into it. Don't manipulate the player let them do what they find fun. Well go ahead and manipulate but realize some of us realize what's being done and dislike it. (not that it has no effect on me) The game is shallow it is using constant carrots in an attempt to make up for that fact. Also gently caress games time gating me.
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Duck and Cover posted:I'm willing to try new things I don't like being coerced into it. Don't manipulate the player let them do what they find fun. Well go ahead and manipulate but realize some of us realize what's being done and dislike it. (not that it has no effect on me) The game is shallow it is using constant carrots in an attempt to make up for that fact. Also gently caress games time gating me. You're in the wrong genre, friend. Also the problem with the MR system is mostly that they need to do a comprehensive balance pass and rearrange the weapons into intentional tiers. MR = power is a new development and old weapons and MR requirements don't reflect it well.
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Lightning Knight posted:You're in the wrong genre, friend. The genre is shooty man, just because it has the f2p taint doesn't mean there's no fun to be had. Oh and games be they free or not have f2p garbage (and unnecessary rpg mechanics) these days it's just the way it is. Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 06:18 on Nov 3, 2017 |
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Duck and Cover posted:The genre is shooty man, just because it has the f2p taint doesn't mean there's no fun to be had. Oh and games be they free or not have f2p garbage (and unnecessary rpg mechanics) these days it's just the way it is. You know you don't really have to level your MR to max since there's barely anything there that would give you your "fun" if you already have your favorite weapons, right? Even rivens and all the login gated primed mods are not necessary since there is nothing in the game you cannot kill using the rest of the non-gated things.
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wid posted:You know you don't really have to level your MR to max since there's barely anything there that would give you your "fun" if you already have your favorite weapons, right? Even rivens and all the login gated primed mods are not necessary since there is nothing in the game you cannot kill using the rest of the non-gated things. I got a shiny riven of course I want to try it. I'm also pretty sure I'd have stopped playing without the twitch drops due to lack of credits.
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Duck and Cover posted:I got a shiny riven of course I want to try it. I'm also pretty sure I'd have stopped playing without the twitch drops due to lack of credits. Just ask in clan chat for help with basically anything. Credits are super easy to get when you've got a (mostly) competent group to drag you through the index.
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Shalebridge Cradle posted:Just ask in clan chat for help with basically anything. Credits are super easy to get when you've got a (mostly) competent group to drag you through the index. You seem to have the misguided belief that I'm not capable of reading and thus do not already posses this knowledge. Like I appreciate the whole helping newbies thing, but I do find it tiresome when people assume the issue stems from a lack of understanding how to do x. I do not think I would play the game given the increase of grinding caused by the lack of twitch rewards. Boosters, slots, forma/latron blueprints are kind of really nice to have.
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Duck and Cover posted:I got a shiny riven of course I want to try it. I'm also pretty sure I'd have stopped playing without the twitch drops due to lack of credits. But then your fun comes from "trying out this new thing". Which was your complaint about the game forcing you to try their new poo poo. You also complain about the lack of credits and then later said you know how to get credits it's just that you don't want to do it? It's like you're complaining the game is not wiping your rear end for you. Maybe try idle RPG mobile games? I dunno man just trying to make you happy.
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Sandweed posted:As a M24 with only Gara, Hema and Zaws unmastered my advice is just passively level one thing while you run around with your good stuff. I'm only M15, but yeah, this is what I do. I mainly use kohm, marelok, jat, volt and helios, and then replace 1-4 of these with low rank poo poo when I want to level it, keeping at least one decent weapon equipped. Makes leveling things basically unnoticeable.
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And Tyler Too! posted:I wish having to re-level something after Forma was dead and buried. I have enough mastery trash baking in my oven, I don't want to have to visit Hydron if I can avoid it. I'd like it if an item doubled its affinity gain with each forma (w/o affecting lenses of course).
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Tallgeese posted:It's called "catch Tallgeese while he happens to be around, carry corpro". Look at this guy still carrying people through efficient grind. I go to see what's going on and same old crew, heh. So folks, friend of mine started playing, and really started making noises about wanting to play, so I'm updating. I stopped playing... ... ... ... ... I guess sometime when the new star map came out? It's going to take me a day or two to chug through this 7+ gig update on my 1.5mbps connection, but what's changed? Is the grind still endless? Did they make getting components interesting? Is it still all prime parts and ducats and weekly anime merchant gracing us with his presence to foist some oddball hard to get item off on us? Did they finally get rid of damage mods or put a dedicated damage mod slot? Is the future of Warframe bright  ?I already told my friend to try not to grind, and embrace the flipping out murder ninja to maximize fun.
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Sandweed posted:As a M24 with only Gara, Hema and Zaws unmastered my advice is just passively level one thing while you run around with your good stuff. Crack some relics, do sorties ect. Eventually you will get there, drilling down and only farming one specific thing is the way to This is kinda what I do, but the opposite. I usually gear a forma'd up WMD, either my Riven juiced Amprex or Guandao, jam a maxed redirection and Vitality on a new frame, then run about in random pub Hydrons killing 50% of the poo poo. By the time I've got the frame Forma'd a few times as appropriate, I've max ranked several garbage weapons.
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BeAuMaN posted:Look at this guy still carrying people through efficient grind. I go to see what's going on and same old crew, heh. To unlock the slot you need an exilus adapter, and generally to afford using it you need to forma a frame two or more times. The future is bright, although the plains of eidolon kind of suck if you ask me. Not in the concept, unless the concept includes running 2500 meters across an open field, but in the execution so far. With a few minor tweaks it will be pretty cool. If you have no life at all and play warframe 18 hours per day the plains are okay I guess. Khorne fucked around with this message at 13:53 on Nov 3, 2017 |
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