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Im sorry fishmech you have chosen a really rough hill to die on here.
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Being 100% objectively and factually incorrect is tough cross to bear.
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Nov 4, 2017 08:27
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I think backwards compatibility has become less of a must-have feature for consoles now that 1) the last two generations have each lasted 8 years or more, and 2) publishers have discovered that you can rerelease old games as $20 HD remasters for very little overhead and consumers will mostly be happy to buy them over and over. Or you can simply play on the PC, which has always been backwards compatible and will be for all eternity.
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Nov 4, 2017 08:53
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In general but there's a lot of older PC games that are close to impossible to get to run on modern systems. Including ones that Steam still sells.
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Nov 4, 2017 08:58
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Imo PS4 is a ridiculously better console than Xbone at this point but let's not pretend BC doesn't kick rear end and that PS4's total lack of it doesn't suck. It's at least 50% of the reason I keep my xbox one plugged in.
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Nov 4, 2017 08:59
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Sakurazuka posted:In general but there's a lot of older PC games that are close to impossible to get to run on modern systems. Including ones that Steam still sells. Yeah and if they just rereleased those games with a couple quick and dirty fixes any entry-level programmer could make and marketed it as a 20 dollar "remaster" a nonzero amount of people would probably pay for them rather than going through the trouble of downloading all the fan patches.
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Nov 4, 2017 09:03
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Sakurazuka posted:In general but there's a lot of older PC games that are close to impossible to get to run on modern systems. Including ones that Steam still sells. A majority of games that's worth the time is on GoG or for games like NOLF are easily found and have user patches to play. I'm playing though it currently just fine in wide-screen and everything. This just isn't that true unless you find some obscure game you're not gonna really play anyway. That's what blows me about BC, people ask and ask and when it happens nobodys playing that poo poo anyway. Who really asked for BC Jade Empire or KotR in the year 2017 like any PC can't run it better and smoother and be gotten vastly cheaper. It's not even like the games are lost forever, they're still playable on PS3 and 360. I hook them up all the time to play JSRF and the Jak collection. Then you get stuff like the Bayonetta ports where all 3 console ports have their own problems and the only true way to play is the PC one.
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Nov 4, 2017 09:14
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It's hard to care about BC on the Xboner when you know most games won't appear due to licensing issues.
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Nov 4, 2017 09:22
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RBX posted:A majority of games that's worth the time is on GoG or for games like NOLF are easily found and have user patches to play. I'm playing though it currently just fine in wide-screen and everything. This just isn't that true unless you find some obscure game you're not gonna really play anyway. What was wrong with the 360 bayonetta port? Seemed perfect to me.
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Nov 4, 2017 09:32
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Before the PC remaster the 360 was the definitive way to play Bayo, it was actually one of the best things about that system.
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Nov 4, 2017 09:34
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360 and WiiU Bayonetta ports are both fine and the WiiU version has objectively more content than the other versions, I just managed to land a PC Master Race-er
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Nov 4, 2017 09:37
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RBX posted:When Sony puts in BC next time and takes the easy good press what will people cry about next I doubt they could pull this off without needing massive ressources, like the ones at Microsoft that were freed after killing all their games in development.
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Nov 4, 2017 10:50
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exquisite tea posted:Before the PC remaster the 360 was the definitive way to play Bayo, it was actually one of the best things about that system. It was definitive by default. It still had frame drops, screen tearing, and was blurry and ugly as hell. On xbone it has delay issues. I've brought the game like 6 times between 4 ports and played the poo poo of it. Some of that might not matter to casual players but in games like that where your gonna be looking at it and playing it til your eyes bleed its really annoying. Compare to DMC4 where it is pretty much perfect on any system and the only advantage PC has is mods and higher framerate RBX fucked around with this message at 10:58 on Nov 4, 2017 |
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Nov 4, 2017 10:54
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I skipped the PS3, so I was massively disappointed when I realized my PS4 didn’t have BC. Feels like a standard now.
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Nov 4, 2017 11:53
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RBX posted:It was definitive by default. It still had frame drops, screen tearing, and was blurry and ugly as hell. On xbone it has delay issues. It used to but they actually fixed that last year. I'm interested to see how soon it might get an enhanced update.
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Nov 4, 2017 14:18
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Healbot posted:I doubt they could pull this off without needing massive ressources, like the ones at Microsoft that were freed after killing all their games in development. 
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Nov 4, 2017 14:27
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Crackdown Sea of thieves State of decay 2 2018 is looking bright for xbox and fans of ugly b tier games everywhere.
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Nov 4, 2017 14:36
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RBX posted:When Sony puts in BC next time and takes the easy good press what will people cry about next PS4 already has complete compatibility with PS3's no games. PS2 support would be nice though. dont be mean to me posted:You'd think this would be a straightforward exercise for the Most Pedantic Kid in America. Let's start again. The PS4 has no games though?  Not sure why this is so hard to get.
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Nov 4, 2017 15:19
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They called the third Xbox the Xbox One
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Nov 4, 2017 15:21
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Hello traveler from 2013. Your fresh humor is wasted on us. Return to your era and do what you can to warn them about 2016.
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Nov 4, 2017 15:45
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fishmech posted:The PS4 has no games though? Not about Xbox. Not about games. Deliberate avoidance of discussion. 
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Nov 4, 2017 16:43
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dont be mean to me posted:Not about Xbox. Not about games. Deliberate avoidance of discussion. Boy you sure seem mad about the fact the PS4 has no games, while the Xbox One has all the games. Looks like someone here is upset about the most powerful gaming system ever invented, the X Box One X (XBOX).
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Nov 4, 2017 17:08
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Fishmech is the abusive ex returning to shitpost all the time. We are all fishmech.
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Nov 4, 2017 17:24
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PS2 BC on the PS4 with digital copies would be the greatest. I like revisiting my childhood 🤷🏻♂️ I was gonna get a cheap Wii U just to make it a Nintendo box. But they are still charging $10-$20 for ancient games 😱
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Nov 4, 2017 22:57
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Sony should put out mini nostalgia systems like nintendo to further troll people on bc
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Nov 4, 2017 23:05
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Real hurthling! posted:Sony should put out mini nostalgia systems like nintendo to further troll people on bc Wasn't that the Vita
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Nov 4, 2017 23:24
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There are some PS2 classics on PS4, but you have to buy them again. Does the Xbox One read Original Xbox discs for the newly compatible titles?
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Nov 4, 2017 23:47
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Yup E: I think the mechanism behind the scenes is the same as 360 BC which is that is uses the disk to verify the DRM but then downloads and installs the specially packaged game files from the internet.
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Nov 4, 2017 23:53
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doingitwrong posted:Yup It's the exact same thing, yeah.
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Nov 5, 2017 00:07
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fishmech posted:Wasn't that the Vita no vita is like a one game tiger electronics handheld for p4g
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Nov 5, 2017 01:24
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Sakurazuka posted:In general but there's a lot of older PC games that are close to impossible to get to run on modern systems. Including ones that Steam still sells. Hell the Xbox one now has the definitive edition of deadly premonition. It runs like poo poo on ps3 and it can straight up crash on certain pcs and nobody knows how to fix it. If they can give backwards compatibility for decades of games and keep games running really stable and performs better every console iteration, it's gonna be really appealing in the console space. I have a Xbox one s and I kind of want to get the one x on sale. To play ninja Gaiden black at the best looking possible.
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Nov 5, 2017 02:02
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On sale? You wouldnt pay 500 dollars for ninja gaiden black?
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Nov 5, 2017 02:26
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NGB looks real loving good on the xbone and it's awesome that a loose disc from a used game store is all you need to play it on it.
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Nov 5, 2017 02:48
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Real hurthling! posted:no vita is like a one game tiger electronics handheld for p4g Yeah but like, that Playstation TV thing they did that was a Vita with no screen.
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Nov 5, 2017 03:10
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Who wants to play old games again? I barely want to play most new games, let alone old polygon counting lovely old games that I already beat. Stop looking in the past nerds
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Nov 5, 2017 03:15
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fishmech posted:Yeah but like, that Playstation TV thing they did that was a Vita with no screen. Turn on your tv
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Nov 5, 2017 03:18
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Auron posted:Who wants to play old games again? I barely want to play most new games, let alone old polygon counting lovely old games that I already beat. Stop looking in the past nerds Sounds like you don't like games
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Nov 5, 2017 03:25
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I'm holding out for Mercenaries 1 to be backwards compatible on the bone. Or PS4.
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Nov 5, 2017 06:45
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Instant Sunrise posted:I'm holding out for Mercenaries 1 to be backwards compatible on the bone. 
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Also, the PS2 games on PS4 shouldnt even be mentioned. The selection is AWFUL https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-us/ps2-games/cid=STORE-MSF77008-PS2GAMESONPS4G/3
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