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My memory of the MadTV was that the original cast was funny, but they did have terrible attrition of talent between the seasons and all the replacements were either one gimmick wonders or just plain awful. It could have lasted longer, but having no promising prospects and using the "beat the dead horse" as your writing strategy does not pay off. And I live in a country where SNL is completely behind a paywall on a subscription channel so I cannot even compare the two.
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Corrode posted:Not TV but very much on the subject of weird time capsules - The Atrocity Exhibition is a JG Ballard book which consists of hosed up short stories, or possibly a coherent, linked narrative, who knows? One of the common themes is a repetitive obsession with particular celebrities - Marilyn Monroe, JFK, etc. To circle this back around, Ralph Nader also hosted SNL in the 70s. Why yes, he was awkward as a comedic actor.
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Nov 7, 2017 20:15
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Der Kyhe posted:My memory of the MadTV was that the original cast was funny, but they did have terrible attrition of talent between the seasons and all the replacements were either one gimmick wonders or just plain awful. If SNL was The Simpsons, Mad TV was like, Fish Police.
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Nov 7, 2017 20:17
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I remember liking the Eddie Murphy stuff in SNL but that might be nostalgia talking.
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Nov 7, 2017 20:30
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Scaramouche posted:I remember liking Eddie Murphy. 
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Nov 7, 2017 20:36
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SNL was always hit or miss and usually benefited from being edited down to the 1 hour format Comedy Central used to do and getting rid of the bits that didn't work but I think it holds up pretty well. Every season since the original cast is always met with "these guys suck" and then 5 years later is looked back on with fondness. Most of them anyway.
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Nov 7, 2017 21:16
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purple death ray posted:If SNL was The Simpsons, Mad TV was like, Fish Police. I had never heard of this show and had to look it up. My god is it painfully unfunny and John Ritter's voice acting in it is awful.
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Nov 7, 2017 21:22
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I always believed that SNL was something you were supposed to watch while high or drunk but never while sober God knows no one was sober while writing and making the original stuff
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Nov 7, 2017 21:40
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Scaramouche posted:I remember liking the Eddie Murphy stuff in SNL but that might be nostalgia talking. The crazy thing to remember about Eddie Murphy and SNL is that he was 19 years old when he got on that show.
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Nov 7, 2017 22:24
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SNL was always at it's best when you personally watched it as a teenager.
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Nov 7, 2017 22:43
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muscles like this! posted:The crazy thing to remember about Eddie Murphy and SNL is that he was 19 years old when he got on that show. Also that he got it by harassing a producer for a job daily until he agreed to audition him as an extra to shut him up and then tested well enough to immediately upgrade to the main cast.
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Nov 7, 2017 22:53
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FactsAreUseless posted:If you remember a sketch being good it probably was. When it was good, it was good. That was a real product too, if I remember correctly
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Nov 7, 2017 23:01
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Davros1 posted:That was a real product too, if I remember correctly kind of like how there was a commercial parody in the late 90s/early 2000s about a razor that had 6 blades that start slicing off your face at the end cause who needs that many blades?! and of course yeah it's a thing now
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Davros1 posted:That was a real product too, if I remember correctly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joFZw0vXDiQ e: not sure if the above video is an actual commercial for one, but here's a similar product on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Telescopic-Folding-Garden-Heavy-Foldable/dp/B003UIDK4C
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purple death ray posted:If SNL was The Simpsons, Mad TV was like, Fish Police. Sarcopenia posted:I had never heard of this show and had to look it up. My god is it painfully unfunny and John Ritter's voice acting in it is awful.   Suddenly I understand a riff in the MST3k episode "Blood Waters of Dr. Z."
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Sarcopenia posted:I had never heard of this show and had to look it up. My god is it painfully unfunny and John Ritter's voice acting in it is awful. When The Simpson made their big splash, rival networks reasoned that why it was popular was not because of the writing, but because it was animated. So they all rushed to have animated shows. Fish Police (which got a Marvel comic out of it), Capital Critters, The Critic, Family Dog. Only The Critic was good.
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Davros1 posted:When The Simpson made their big splash, rival networks reasoned that why it was popular was not because of the writing, but because it was animated. So they all rushed to have animated shows. Fish Police (which got a Marvel comic out of it), Capital Critters, The Critic, Family Dog. Only The Critic was good. The critic was created by Al Jean and Mike Reiss though, they knew what they were doing and they knew how important the writing was. While not all of the critic aged well, it's still pretty enjoyable to rewatch.
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Eddie Murphy discussion is tailor made for this thread, one of his 80's specials (Delirious, I think) has a long bit about his dislike of gay people and how he'd better not catch them looking at him. This probably seemed especially eyebrow raising to gay folk when that whole thing about him picking up a transgendered hooker off the street broke. And then David Spade dunked on him so hard he refused to ever appear on SNL again.
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Much like the simpsons, family dog started elsewhere. The "pilot" if you will was the only animated episode of Amazing Stories
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Davros1 posted:When The Simpson made their big splash, rival networks reasoned that why it was popular was not because of the writing, but because it was animated. So they all rushed to have animated shows. Fish Police (which got a Marvel comic out of it), Capital Critters, The Critic, Family Dog. Only The Critic was good. One character urges Jay Sherman not to say a bad word about Mel Gibson because he is "a wonderful father/director/actor".
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Choco1980 posted:Much like the simpsons, family dog started elsewhere. The "pilot" if you will was the only animated episode of Amazing Stories The Family Dog pilot is pretty good, I think. It's one of my family's favorites. I didn't even know there was a full show until a few years ago, and I kinda wish I didn't.
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Aesop Poprock posted:kind of like how there was a commercial parody in the late 90s/early 2000s about a razor that had 6 blades that start slicing off your face at the end cause who needs that many blades?! and of course yeah it's a thing now The literal very first episode of SNL had a fake commercial for a three-bladed razor, and what an absurd concept that would be.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:And then David Spade dunked on him so hard he refused to ever appear on SNL again. Clip please!
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Corrode posted:Not TV but very much on the subject of weird time capsules - The Atrocity Exhibition is a JG Ballard book which consists of hosed up short stories, or possibly a coherent, linked narrative, who knows? One of the common themes is a repetitive obsession with particular celebrities - Marilyn Monroe, JFK, etc. Either first or second season of SNL has Nader as guest host, and they have him do muckraking about the safety of blow-up dolls. E: f,b, but added detail.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Eddie Murphy discussion is tailor made for this thread, one of his 80's specials (Delirious, I think) has a long bit about his dislike of gay people and how he'd better not catch them looking at him. Eddie Murphy did a follow up to that called "raw" where he continues with the gay jokes but points out that it's all just jokes and that you should "Just let motherfuckers be" (or that could have been delirious too) Watching it in the 2000s I just assumed that Eddie Murphy was what passed as progressive on gay rights in the 80s FactsAreUseless posted:Yeah, that's it in the video. They didn't build a folding rake. That looks sort of neat but a rake isn't exactly a precision tool. I wonder how well that mechanism holds up after sitting in a shed all winter followed by heavy use the rest of the year.
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Dejawesp posted:That looks sort of neat but a rake isn't exactly a precision tool. I wonder how well that mechanism holds up after sitting in a shed all winter followed by heavy use the rest of the year. Sounds like a problem that occurs after the warranty ends.
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Sarcopenia posted:You're 100% right about this but the early 2000s Critic webshow made it clear how important it was for the animation to be good. There is no flow in the animation so the visual comedic timing is non existing. The animation is a Duketastrophe.
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And Duke, as we all know, is life.
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Vote for Duke!
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El Gallinero Gros posted:And then David Spade dunked on him so hard he refused to ever appear on SNL again. Ariong posted:Clip please! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMoJA30WF84
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gently caress you Universal for blocking it.
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https://youtu.be/ehrwY--_7zQ For context on this: The Portuguese Socialist Government at the time was pushing on providing everyone, namely lower income folk and kids, with cheaper broadband and wifi enabled notebooks. So the general opposition part's take was to pin the idea of improving internet connection/providing services in general as a useless thing only horny kids would be into. In 2008. At a time when smartphones were starting to spread more and thus an increase for wifi demand was getting more and more noticable. And yes, those will recognize the actor playing the pm there as the face of the main, previously state owned isp in marketing.
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Sounds like the Australian 'What do you need fiber for? We have good old reliable Copper!' Liberal Government. (of course, the Labor party was pushing both a fiber broadband network and a mandatory internet content filter, then eventually dropped the latter when it turned out there's nowhere near enough idiotic scared olds who care about it, and when the Liberals got into power they gutted the former)
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Rirse posted:gently caress you Universal for blocking it. Yeah. Anyone who can see it care to transcribe for us?
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Sarcopenia posted:One character urges Jay Sherman not to say a bad word about Mel Gibson because he is "a wonderful father/director/actor". Was that before or after the Simpsons had an episode that did that for real? Re: Eddie Murphy: what was his downfall? He did SNL then he went on to have one of the best movie careers of any comedic actor of the 1980s (48 Hrs., Trading Places, Beverly Hills Cop, Beverly Hills Cop II, The Golden Child, Coming To America - even if some of these weren't works of genius, they still made a lot of money) then he had The Nutty Professor and Dr Doolittle in the mid-90s, then after that it seems like it's just the Shrek movies that were big hits. Even Norbit, which did make money, is probably more notorious for costing him an Oscar than anything else. I feel like it must have happened before Pluto Nash. Wheat Loaf has a new favorite as of 12:39 on Nov 8, 2017 |
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Eddie Murphy discussion is tailor made for this thread, one of his 80's specials (Delirious, I think) has a long bit about his dislike of gay people and how he'd better not catch them looking at him. LOL imagine getting dunked on by David "failed Adam Sandler friend" Spade of all people, jfc
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MikeCrotch posted:LOL imagine getting dunked on by David "failed
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Wheat Loaf posted:Was that before or after the Simpsons had an episode that did that for real? As he got older he kinda transitioned away from his edgy comedy to being more family-friendly, though I'm not sure if that was willing or unwillingly.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Was that before or after the Simpsons had an episode that did that for real? He got Burt Reynold'd. He was a highly bankable star who could put out trash and have it make money solely on the strength of his personality. However when audiences got tired of him there was no where left to go. Like Tom Hanks has had box office bombs, but he's an accomplished actor who cherry picks his roles so people buy tickets to his films for a variety of reasons. With Eddie Murphy you were buying a ticket to watch Eddie Murphy act crazy. So when you don't like Eddie Murphy, you don't like any of his films either. His voice work shows an even worse problem in that the only way people like Murphy is if he's a supporting actor and you don't have to actually look at him. This is the same thing that's happening to Johnny Depp.
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londonarbuckle posted:To circle this back around, Ralph Nader also hosted SNL in the 70s. My favourite awkward Nader story is when he was at Safeway and this attractive woman was flirting with him and he realised something was up because that just didn't happen to him and GM had to publicly apologise to him because it turned out they sent her there to try and seduce him so they could blackmail him.
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