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Alter Ego posted:So um...drunk Barry? Best Barry. "No body move, I'm a cop!" "I'm the FLAAAASH!!!" Best Barry. Did I miss the episode where they sent Wally on the bus outta town?
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"These tears are more than just water." So just like normal tears. Thanks, Felicity.
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Nov 8, 2017 17:32
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Very strong episode start, then quickly devolved into bad by the middle. That bitchin' line is getting some awesome reuse this season. Wonder when we'll finally see what was bitchin.
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Nov 8, 2017 17:32
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Everything with Drunk Barry was amazing. I love the hanging the lampshade on him telling everyone all the time, but him doing a drunken version of his "arrival face" was perfect. Dibney has the perfect level of overacting. If they don't give Dibney his own show they seriously need to keep him around as part of the main team. He's a great foil to Team Flash.
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Nov 8, 2017 18:56
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Mortanis posted:Everything with Drunk Barry was amazing. I love the hanging the lampshade on him telling everyone all the time, but him doing a drunken version of his "arrival face" was perfect. Dibny is basically the Malfoy of this season, one would assume.
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Nov 8, 2017 18:58
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I haven't watched the latest episode, yet, but now I'm confused. How the hell does Barry manage to get drunk?
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Nov 8, 2017 19:06
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Shaddak posted:I haven't watched the latest episode, yet, but now I'm confused. How the hell does Barry manage to get drunk? Cisco made up some concoction in season one or whatever that makes him drunk and they gave him TOO MUCH AND IT WAS GREAT
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Nov 8, 2017 19:11
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Shaddak posted:I haven't watched the latest episode, yet, but now I'm confused. How the hell does Barry manage to get drunk? Cisco made him a special bachelor party gift of an updated version of his superliquor that actually works this time... too much.
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Nov 8, 2017 19:11
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Dibney excitedly reacting to Killer Frost only for her to revert back and him going "Ah, it's only Caitlyn" was awesome.
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Nov 8, 2017 19:40
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Burning_Monk posted:"No body move, I'm a cop!" "Guys why didn't Rose make room for Jack on the doooooooor"  loving great.
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Nov 8, 2017 19:42
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I know that people acting smart would make a bad superhero show, but if a meta that wants to kill me has a wind-up time, I would not loving wait for her to wind-up... I guess I am disappointed in Frost, she was so wonderfully no-nonsense before. 
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I'm going to be disappointed if Caitlin never does some version of Iceman's transformation sequence from Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends.
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Nov 8, 2017 22:07
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Alter Ego posted:"Guys why didn't Rose make room for Jack on the doooooooor" When he did the head flip "I got peanuts" bit I thought they were gonna pan down and there would actually be a bowl of peanuts on the table, but no Barry's just a loveable drunk dumbass  I'm SOOOO glad this show is back to doing Season 1-style fun comedy stuff. Everyone on the show is much better at that than dour drama.
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Nov 8, 2017 22:13
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This episode made me feel pretty bad for Iris. She only had three other people at her bachelorette party - some random from out of state, her dad’s girlfriend, and a coworker. The show emphasizes that Iris and Caitlin aren’t really friends and then has Iris make Caitlin her maid of honor. I mean, drat, Iris’s personal life must be lonely. I don’t know why they didn’t get an extra of something to be her friend.
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Prairie Bus posted:This episode made me feel pretty bad for Iris. She only had three other people at her bachelorette party - some random from out of state, her dad’s girlfriend, and a coworker. The show emphasizes that Iris and Caitlin aren’t really friends and then has Iris make Caitlin her maid of honor. Iris and Felicity have known each other for like four years now. I wouldn't exactly call her a rando.
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nine-gear crow posted:Iris and Felicity have known each other for like four years now. I wouldn't exactly call her a rando. It’d make sense if Iris and Felicity were close! But this episode didn’t show that, and Iris didn’t ask Felicity to be her maid of honor - the writers had her ask a girl she admitted wasn’t her friend.
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Prairie Bus posted:It’d make sense if Iris and Felicity were close! But this episode didn’t show that, and Iris didn’t ask Felicity to be her maid of honor - the writers had her ask a girl she admitted wasn’t her friend. Plus, Felicity is the girl Iris tried to hook her now-fiance up with. *AWKWARD*
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Nov 8, 2017 23:08
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I assume that Iris lost all her existing friends when she quit her job at the newspaper and moved into STAR Labs and didn't tell anyone why
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Nov 9, 2017 00:40
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I think its more or less implied that after Barry left Iris threw herself into leading Team Flash and got kind of obsessed. But also Iris kind of never had friends or a social life outside her family besides dudes who got killed by Thawne. And even her fiance was her dad's partner. No one on Team Flash has a social life. They're all traumatized shut ins. Cisco's the most balanced of them because he has a girlfriend in another universe. Team Arrow is actually more well adjusted than them.
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Or maybe Caitlyn and Iris feel a kinship now that they've spent time in the field together, plus she talked Killer Frost down into being Regular Frost, which Caitlyn is grateful for. Idk I thought the episode was fine and I liked it. 
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Alter Ego posted:So um...drunk Barry? Best Barry.  he's the flaaaaaaaaash
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Nov 9, 2017 05:56
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I'm sure drunk people calling themselves the Flash is not an uncommon occurrence in Central City at this point. Probably even more likely if/when they get pulled over for a DUI
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Barry getting the peanuts when drunk was fantastic.
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ruddiger posted:Dibney excitedly reacting to Killer Frost only for her to revert back and him going "Ah, it's only Caitlyn" was awesome. nine-gear crow posted:I'm SOOOO glad this show is back to doing Season 1-style fun comedy stuff. Prairie Bus posted:This episode made me feel pretty bad for Iris. She only had three other people at her bachelorette party - some random from out of state, her dad’s girlfriend, and a coworker. The show emphasizes that Iris and Caitlin aren’t really friends and then has Iris make Caitlin her maid of honor.
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Nov 9, 2017 14:22
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Tiggum posted:Hey, it's another sitcom cliche - the office sitcom where the cast don't know anyone outside of their workplace. Does Barry still work for the police? Surely he at least has a couple of friends there, right? He's worked there for years. Did Barry and Iris grow up in complete isolation? They still live in the city they grew up in, don't they still see any childhood/highschool/uni friends? Honestly, I don't see the big deal people are making about this. It's one of those things that sure, sitting down and thinking about it, sounds like it would add to the show but honestly makes things more tedious. You bring in side friends even as extras then the writers have to keep playing the stupid "I'll be right back" as Barry and crew collectively leave half their group wherever they were hanging out to go fight crime. Having a sudden event happen in public means having to account for people who know Barry or anyone on team Flash vanishing from the scene or being annoyingly dumb enough not to notice when Barry vanishes and the Flash shows up. They become extra points you have to keep track of, not because they serve a narrative purpose but because we'd all be on the forums bitching about why didn't the 3 other (hypothetical extras) women think something was up when Iris's dinner got interrupted. Being a super hero doesn't mean you can't have friends or family but logically speaking if anyone finds out who they are or that they mean something to your heroic persona, they become a target. Them knowing you are a hero doesn't put them in danger and honestly them not knowing makes things more dangerous for them and plot points more tedious. But then once your friends know they either will want to help or will want to stay nice and far away from you for fear for their lives (or you push them away). So end of the day, most if not all your friends you still hang out with would probably be in Star Labs or out of your life and you end up in the same place.
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Writh posted:Honestly, I don't see the big deal people are making about this. It's one of those things that sure, sitting down and thinking about it, sounds like it would add to the show but honestly makes things more tedious. You bring in side friends even as extras then the writers have to keep playing the stupid "I'll be right back" as Barry and crew collectively leave half their group wherever they were hanging out to go fight crime. Writh posted:Having a sudden event happen in public means having to account for people who know Barry or anyone on team Flash vanishing from the scene or being annoyingly dumb enough not to notice when Barry vanishes and the Flash shows up. Writh posted:So end of the day, most if not all your friends you still hang out with would probably be in Star Labs or out of your life and you end up in the same place.
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Tiggum posted:Barry and Joe have jobs where they can legitimately be called away to fight crime. Cisco and Caitlin have jobs where they can make up any sort of bullshit and no one would know any better (and have also worked with the police and could be called away to fight crime). Iris is/was a journalist and could be called away to cover some breaking news/crime. It's only a problem if the writers are really dumb. So what you're saying is... there's a problem?!
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One thing I'm glad that episode did was walk back the thing from last season where being Killer Frost somehow gave Caitlin healing powers.
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I mean, Iris did have another non-work social relationship. He got loving killed. When you're leading a double-life like this, it makes it pretty natural to not feel close to the people who you aren't letting in on this super important aspect of your life. It's not just some theoretical super-hero thing, either. lgbt, unusual religious practices, criminal drug use, pretty much any subculture that's far enough outside the norm that you might not tell casual friends. If you feel like you have to constantly lie and hide a huge part of yourself from someone in order for them to stay your friend, that's an enormous strain on a relationship. You'll either have to let them in on it eventually, or they'll never become a close friend. But in this case, they can't really let other people in on their poo poo. Isn't that a thing you see with cops, too? They become massively socially isolated other than their "brothers in blue"? It's similar to that. Unfortunately, the writers haven't earned this, they've never shown Iris struggling with her outside friends. It was executed poorly. But I think the concept makes sense. (but yeah it's mostly a practical issue of casting & writing probably...) XboxPants fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Nov 9, 2017 |
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I really like the monologue just saying that Barry was lost in time and they're just going to ignore last season almost entirely.
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Yeah, I'm not actually criticizing the show. It makes perfect sense that Iris - who has already had multiple people she cared about get murdered by Flash's enemies - to resist forming deep relationships with people outside their world to avoid putting people in danger. Not to mention that keeping Team Flash's secrets or Barry's secrets effectively mean you have to lie to anyone else in your life. Maybe the reason Caitlin always ends up attracted to coworkers is because if she ever dated some random dude she'd have to lie constantly to him and couldn't build an actual relationship. I'm more than happy to accept that it makes sense for Team Flash to get all insulated and bond over their shared secrets, danger, and trauma. Its just kind of funny to laugh about after an episode like this that really highlights it. I mean, they could have wrote in a couple of random Iris bridesmaids we never met before, but what would be the point? They'd have to write them out just as quickly to tell their stories unless you got them more involved and that just makes everything clumsier and more complicated. Iris has no friends. I can accept that. It moves the story along better. And Caitlin has no friends either so its a good starting point for some bonding.
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Iris having one random friend show up could have been a good source of comedy. Like, her room mate from college who hasn't seen her in awhile and is confused to find out she's working at a closed high tech lab despite being a journalism major. Maybe do a slightly meta joke where all the characters realize they don't have any lives outside of their relationship to a superhero. And then eye worm guy shows up and the friend nopes the gently caress out
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Yeah, they coulda but I'm willing to go with the idea that somewhere between her brother becoming a super hero to her fiance killing himself to erase the existence of a time traveling psychopath speedster descendant to her getting a new secret brother who also becomes a superhero to her getting engaged with her first brother to his evil duplicate coming back in time to murder her to her brotherfiance disappearing into a time space... Well its probably easier to just stop checking Facebook and ghost your college buds.
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I’M THE FLAAASH!
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Invalid Validation posted:I’M THE FLAAASH! Seriously needs to be the new thread title.
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Iris' three closest women friends - A friend of her fiance's she's met like twice - A coworker she doesn't really interact with - Her dad's girlfriend It's real sad
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FactsAreUseless posted:Iris' three closest women friends That's pretty bad. I thought about how bad it was for Felicity and I realized that she has at least one more female friend than Iris, even though one is now in a coma, one is busy being the director of a clandestine organization, and one is a coworker she doesn't really interact with either. She does have that hacker friend/fangirl at least, but she's going into hiding iirc.
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It's just bad writing. Give your characters a life outside the screen. Iris still has a job, too, but they forgot that as well.
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