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Tiny Timbs: Sep 6, 2008

boop the snoot posted:

lol

Well, yeah. Alabama. They voted for the piece of poo poo in the first place.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 19:58

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Casimir Radon: Aug 2, 2008

I LICK APE PUSSY posted:

That is an aggressively ugly suit

The man has Nixon's face tattooed on his back.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 19:58

psydude: Apr 1, 2008

lightpole posted:

Comments on this are still the best. I didn't realize WaPo was so controversial

It's the news outlet that first introduced us to the president's interested in grabbing women by the pussy.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 19:58

Hot Karl Marx: Mar 16, 2009; Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

WaPo is super neoliberal but it isnt fox news

https://twitter.com/MooreSenate/status/909912213506359301

# ? Nov 9, 2017 19:59

Riot Carol Danvers: Jul 30, 2004; It's super dumb, but I can't stop myself. This is just kind of how I do things.

facialimpediment posted:

By the way, Louis C.K. appears to be hosed too.

https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/928693232225177600

Good. By the way, the statements he made in that article regarding sexual misconduct :laffo:

# ? Nov 9, 2017 20:02

shyduck: Oct 3, 2003

https://twitter.com/KatzOnEarth/status/928675993220460544

How much was that contract?

Also re: Louis CK, I feel like it's been known for some that he's a scumbag

# ? Nov 9, 2017 20:03

lightpole: Jun 4, 2004; I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".

I thought it was up there with the NYT as one of the more trustworthy news sources. I think the opinion pieces tend to be fairly liberal but the articles themselves seemed alright. Of course, everything I read online feels like an opinion piece now so I am generally confused.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 20:03

psydude: Apr 1, 2008

lightpole posted:

I thought it was up there with the NYT as one of the more trustworthy news sources. I think the opinion pieces tend to be fairly liberal but the articles themselves seemed alright. Of course, everything I read online feels like an opinion piece now so I am generally confused.

They have a fair number of conservatives on their editorial team. They just almost all happen to absolutely hate Trump and almost all of them have officially renounced their Republican party membership.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 20:07

Proud Christian Mom: Dec 20, 2006; READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

WaPo editorials are trash. All editorials are trash. Otherwise they're pretty good.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 20:08

Vasudus: May 30, 2003

Yeah, uh,

if you judge opinion pieces as anything. They're not news and have never been presented as anything but opinion pieces.

WaPo and NYT are top tier outlets. Mostly because every other outlet has gone bankrupt over the years, but still.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 20:12

bloops: Dec 31, 2010; Thanks Ape Pussy!

Louis CK about to be taken down

# ? Nov 9, 2017 20:19

bird food bathtub: Aug 9, 2003; College Slice

Hot Karl Marx posted:

Well he could die. That would fix that problem, among others.

https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/928646495196368898

Anything that turbo fucks Roger Stone in any and all aspects of his life in any way possible is an unmitigated good thing. He's an astonishingly slimy poo poo stain on the underwear of humanity. He's been playing Republican Kingmaker for a long God drat time and proudly celebrates his role in getting Diaper Donnie into office.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 20:21

shyduck: Oct 3, 2003

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/928703746216951808

lol at the first sentence of the second paragraph

# ? Nov 9, 2017 20:24

Acebuckeye13: Nov 2, 2010; If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling
1-800-GAMBLER; Ultra Carp

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/928702370808238080

# ? Nov 9, 2017 20:29

Third World Reagan: May 19, 2008; Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.

I am happy for the political and hollywood sexual predator purge

I kind of want to put a political or hollywood name on it

something like polisexualwood purge

# ? Nov 9, 2017 20:36

shyduck: Oct 3, 2003

https://twitter.com/Evan_Rosenfeld/status/928698618403422208

# ? Nov 9, 2017 20:36

Flying_Crab: Apr 12, 2002

shyduck posted:

https://twitter.com/Evan_Rosenfeld/status/928698618403422208

# ? Nov 9, 2017 20:39

kupachek: Aug 5, 2015; This man’s brain is trembling in the balance between reason and insanity, and as he stalks on with clenched fist and sword in hand, as though he still saw those murderous Russians gunners.

shyduck posted:

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/928703746216951808

lol at the first sentence of the second paragraph

Shall we start the countdown until Donnie chimes in that it's really he, who has suffered the most outlandish attacks and witchhunts and not Moore?

# ? Nov 9, 2017 20:46

Defenestrategy: Oct 24, 2010

For arguments sake, lets say that these are just baseless allegations run by the LIBERALS to take down a perfectly innocent man.

Wouldn't Wapo have just handed them a pretty easy case for Slander and be sued back to the stone age? I mean if that's the case shouldn't that guy just go "This is inaccurate I'll sue you!"

# ? Nov 9, 2017 20:47

psydude: Apr 1, 2008

KildarX posted:

For arguments sake, lets say that these are just baseless allegations run by the LIBERALS to take down a perfectly innocent man.

Wouldn't Wapo have just handed them a pretty easy case for Slander and be sued back to the stone age? I mean if that's the case shouldn't that guy just go "This is inaccurate I'll sue you!"

Liberal activist judges would have just thrown it out. Duh.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 20:50

bloops: Dec 31, 2010; Thanks Ape Pussy!

Oh poo poo piss tape is pretty much for real

# ? Nov 9, 2017 20:51

Zeroisanumber: Oct 23, 2010; Nap Ghost

KildarX posted:

For arguments sake, lets say that these are just baseless allegations run by the LIBERALS to take down a perfectly innocent man.

Wouldn't Wapo have just handed them a pretty easy case for Slander and be sued back to the stone age? I mean if that's the case shouldn't that guy just go "This is inaccurate I'll sue you!"

If WaPo published this without a million sources to back it up then Moore could own the paper by this time next year.

However, since they have 30 sources Moore is hosed.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 20:52

Defenestrategy: Oct 24, 2010

cowboy elvis posted:

Oh poo poo piss tape is pretty much for real

# ? Nov 9, 2017 20:52

facialimpediment: Feb 11, 2005; as the world turns

Toodles.

https://twitter.com/GlennKesslerWP/status/928711217287499779

quote:

For comedians, the professional environment is informal: profanity and raunch that would be far out of line in most workplaces are common, and personal foibles — the weirder the better — are routinely mined for material. But Louis C.K.’s behavior was abusive, the women said.

“I think the line gets crossed when you take all your clothes off and start masturbating,” Ms. Wolov said.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 20:52

BigDave: Jul 14, 2009; Taste the High Country

NY Times story about Louis CK just broke.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/09/...e=Homepage&_r=0

NY Times posted:

In 2002, a Chicago comedy duo, Dana Min Goodman and Julia Wolov, landed their big break: a chance to perform at the U.S. Comedy Arts Festival in Aspen, Colo. When Louis C.K. invited them to hang out in his hotel room for a nightcap after their late-night show, they did not think twice. The bars were closed and they wanted to celebrate. He was a comedian they admired. The women would be together. His intentions seemed collegial.

As soon as they sat down in his room, still wrapped in their winter jackets and hats, Louis C.K. asked if he could take out his penis, the women said.

They thought it was a joke and laughed it off. �And then he really did it,� Ms. Goodman said in an interview with The New York Times. �He proceeded to take all of his clothes off, and get completely naked, and started masturbating.�

In 2003, Abby Schachner called Louis C.K. to invite him to one of her shows, and during the phone conversation, she said, she could hear him masturbating as they spoke. Another comedian, Rebecca Corry, said that while she was appearing with Louis C.K. on a television pilot in 2005, he asked if he could masturbate in front of her. She declined.

Now, after years of unsubstantiated rumors about Louis C.K. masturbating in front of associates, women are coming forward to describe what they experienced. Even amid the current burst of sexual misconduct accusations against powerful men, the stories about Louis C.K. stand out because he has so few equals in comedy. In the years since the incidents the women describe, he has sold out Madison Square Garden eight times, created an Emmy-winning TV series, and accumulated the clout of a tastemaker and auteur, with the help of a manager who represents some of the biggest names in comedy. And Louis C.K. built a reputation as the unlikely conscience of the comedy scene, by making audiences laugh about hypocrisy � especially male hypocrisy.

After being contacted for an interview this week about the on-the-record accusations of sexual misconduct � encounters that took place over a decade ago � Louis C.K.�s publicist, Lewis Kay, said the comedian would not respond. �Louis is not going to answer any questions,� Mr. Kay wrote in an email Tuesday night.

Neither Louis C.K. nor Mr. Kay replied to follow-up emails in which the accusations were laid out in detail, or to voice messages or texts. On Thursday, the premiere of Louis C.K.�s new movie �I Love You, Daddy,� was abruptly canceled, and he also canceled an appearance on �The Late Show With Stephen Colbert.�

The stories told by the women raise sharp questions about the anecdotes that Louis C.K. tells in his own comedy. He rose to fame in part by appearing to be candid about his flaws and sexual hang-ups, discussing and miming masturbation extensively in his act � an exaggerated riff that some of the women feel may have served as a cover for real misconduct. He has all but invited comparison between his private life and his onscreen work, too: In �I Love You, Daddy,� which is scheduled to be released next week, a character pretends to masturbate at length in front of other people, and other characters appear to dismiss rumors of sexual predation.

At the same time, Louis C.K. has also boosted the careers of women, and is sometimes viewed as a feminist by fans and critics. But Ms. Goodman and Ms. Wolov said that when they told others about the incident in the Colorado hotel room, they heard that Louis C.K.�s manager was upset that they were talking about it openly. The women feared career repercussions. Louis C.K.�s manager, Dave Becky, was adamant in an email that he �never threatened anyone.�

For comedians, the professional environment is informal: profanity and raunch that would be far out of line in most workplaces are common, and personal foibles � the weirder the better � are routinely mined for material. But Louis C.K.�s behavior was abusive, the women said.

�I think the line gets crossed when you take all your clothes off and start masturbating,� Ms. Wolov said.

�You Want to Believe It�s Not Happening�

Ms. Corry, a comedian, writer and actress, has long felt haunted by her run-in with Louis C.K. In 2005, she was working as a performer and producer on a television pilot � a big step in her career � when Louis C.K., a guest star, approached her as she was walking to the set. �He leaned close to my face and said, �Can I ask you something?� I said, �Yes,�� Ms. Corry said in a written statement to The New York Times. �He asked if we could go to my dressing room so he could masturbate in front of me.� Stunned and angry, Ms. Corry said she declined, and pointed out that he had a daughter and a pregnant wife. �His face got red,� she recalled, �and he told me he had issues.�

Rebecca Corry said that while she was appearing with Louis C.K. on a television pilot in 2005, he asked if he could masturbate in front of her. She declined. Credit Alyssa Schukar for The New York Times
Word quickly reached the show�s executive producers, Courteney Cox and David Arquette, who both confirmed the incident. �What happened to Rebecca on that set was awful,� Ms. Cox said in an email, adding that she felt �outrage and shock.�

�My concern was to create an environment where Rebecca felt safe, protected and heard,� she said. They discussed curtailing the production. Ms. Corry decided to continue with the show.

�Things were going well for me,� Ms. Corry said in the statement, �and I had no interest in being the person who shut down a production.�

A fifth woman, who spoke on condition of anonymity to protect her family�s privacy because she has not been publicly linked to the incident with Louis C.K., also has disturbing memories about an incident with the comedian. In the late �90s, she was working in production at �The Chris Rock Show� when Louis C.K., a writer and producer there, repeatedly asked her to watch him masturbate, she said. She was in her early 20s and went along with his request, but later questioned his behavior.

�It was something that I knew was wrong,� said the woman, who described sitting in Louis C.K.�s office while he masturbated in his desk chair during a workday, other colleagues just outside the door. �I think the big piece of why I said yes was because of the culture,� she continued. �He abused his power.� A co-worker at �The Chris Rock Show,� who also wished to remain anonymous, confirmed that the woman told him about the experience soon after it happened.

Ms. Schachner, a writer, illustrator and performer, admired Louis C.K.�s work. They had met in the comedy scene; Ms. Schachner�s former boyfriend was a comedy writer who had worked with Louis C.K. In 2003, when she called Louis C.K. with an invitation to her show, he said he was at work in an office as a writer on the series �Cedric the Entertainer Presents,� she recalled.

Their conversation quickly moved from the personal � Louis C.K. had seen photos of her on her boyfriend�s desk, he said, and told her he thought she was cute � to �unprofessional and inappropriate,� Ms. Schachner said.

She said she heard the blinds coming down. Then he slowly started telling her his sexual fantasies, breathing heavily and talking softly. She realized he was masturbating, and was dumbfounded. The call went on for several minutes, even though, Ms. Schachner said, �I definitely wasn�t encouraging it.� But she didn�t know how to end it, either. �You want to believe it�s not happening,� she said. A friend, Stuart Harris, confirmed that Ms. Schachner had described the call to him in 2003.

For years afterward, Ms. Schachner said, she felt angry and betrayed by an artist she looked up to. And she wondered what she could have done differently. �I felt very ashamed,� she said.

A Run-In, Then Fears About Speaking Out

During Ms. Goodman and Ms. Wolov�s surreal visit to Louis C.K.�s Aspen hotel room, they said they were holding onto each other, screaming and laughing in shock, as Louis C.K. masturbated in a chair. �We were paralyzed,� Ms. Goodman said. After he ejaculated on his stomach, they said, they fled. He called after them: �He was like, �Which one is Dana and which one is Julia?�� Ms. Goodman recalled.

Afterward, they ran into Charna Halpern, the owner of influential improv theaters in Los Angeles and Chicago, where Ms. Goodman and Ms. Wolov performed, and relayed what had happened. �I didn�t know what to do, I didn�t know what to tell them to do,� said Ms. Halpern. Ms. Goodman and Ms. Wolov decided against going to the police, unsure whether what happened was criminal, but felt they had to respond in some way �because something crazy happened to us,� Ms. Goodman said.

Hoping that outrage would build against Louis C.K., and also to shame him, they began telling others about the incident the next day. But many people seemed to recoil, they said. �Guys were backing away from us,� Ms. Wolov said. Barely 24 hours after they left Louis C.K.�s hotel, �we could already feel the backlash.�

Soon after, they said they understood from their managers that Mr. Becky, Louis C.K�s manager, wanted them to stop telling people about their encounter with Louis C.K. Lee Kernis, one of the women�s managers at the time, confirmed on Thursday that he had a conversation in which he told Mr. Becky that Louis C.K.�s behavior toward the women had been offensive. Mr. Kernis also said that Mr. Becky was upset that the women were talking openly about the incident.

Mr. Becky denied making any threats toward the women. �I don�t know what was relayed to them,� he wrote by email early Thursday. Ms. Halpern and Robert Schroeder � Ms. Goodman and Ms. Wolov�s agent at the time � said that the pair told them that they felt they had been warned to stop talking.

Mr. Becky arguably wields even more power in comedy than Louis C.K. He represents Kevin Hart, Aziz Ansari, Amy Poehler and other top performers, and his company, 3 Arts, puts together programming deals for nearly every platform.

Ms. Goodman and Ms. Wolov moved to Los Angeles shortly after the Aspen festival, but �we were coming here with a bunch of enemies,� Ms. Goodman said. Gren Wells, a filmmaker who befriended the comedy duo in 2002, said the incident and the warning, which they told her about soon after Aspen, hung heavily over them both. �This is something that they were freaked out about,� Ms. Wells said.

In the years since, Ms. Goodman and Ms. Wolov have found some success, but they remained concerned about Mr. Becky and took themselves out of the running for the many projects he was involved in. Though their humor is in line with what he produces, �we know immediately that we can never even submit our material,� Ms. Wolov said.

Private Acts, Public Jokes

Jokes about masturbation have been a regular part of Louis C.K.�s stage shows. In one bit, he complains about not being able to find a private place in his house to do it. �I�m on the streets now,� he says, �I�ve got nowhere to go.� In another bit he laments being a prisoner of his perversions. �Just the constant perverted sexual thoughts,� he says, then mimes masturbating. �It makes me into a moron.�

Tig Notaro, the comedian whose Amazon series, �One Mississippi,� lists Louis C.K. as an executive producer, is one of the few in the fiercely insular comedy world to speak out against him. Her career received a huge boost when he released her 2012 comedy album, about her cancer diagnosis. But their relationship has crumbled and she now feels �trapped� by her association with him, she wrote in an email.

Tig Notaro is one of the few in the insular comedy world to speak out against him. Credit David Livingston/Getty Images
Her fear is that �he released my album to cover his tracks,� she said. �He knew it was going to make him look like a good guy, supporting a woman.� Ms. Notaro said she learned of his reputation after they sold the series to Amazon, and a recent story line is a fictional treatment of the alleged masturbation episodes.

�Sadly, I�ve come to learn that Louis C.K.�s victims are not only real,� she said by email, �but many are actual friends of mine within the comedy community,� like Ms. Goodman and Ms. Wolov, who confided in her, she said.

In his forthcoming film, about a television writer whose teenage daughter is wooed by a Woody Allen type, one character aggressively mimics masturbating in front of others. The content has raised eyebrows. Given the rumors surrounding Louis C.K., the movie �plays like an ambiguous moral inventory of and excuse for everything that allows sexual predators to thrive: open secrets, toxic masculinity, and powerful people getting the benefit of the doubt,� Joe Berkowitz wrote in Fast Company.

Yet in an interview with The Times in September at the Toronto film festival, where �I Love You, Daddy,� was shown, Louis C.K. dismissed stories of his alleged sexual misconduct as �rumors,� and said the notion that the masturbation scenes referred to them never occurred to him. �It�s funny, I didn�t think of that, � he said.

Apologies With Troubling Implications

In private, though, he appears to have acknowledged his behavior.

In 2009, six years after their phone call, Ms. Schachner received a Facebook message from Louis C.K., apologizing. �Last time I talked to you ended in a sordid fashion,� he wrote in the message, which was reviewed by The Times. �That was a bad time in my life and I�m sorry.� He added that he had seen some of Ms. Schachner�s comedy and thought she was funny. �I remember thinking what a repulsive person I was being by responding the way that I did,� he wrote.

Ms. Schachner accepted his apology and told him she forgave him. But the original interaction left her deeply dispirited, she said, and discouraged her from pursuing comedy.

In 2015, a few months before the now-defunct website Defamer circulated rumors of Louis C.K.�s alleged sexual misconduct, Ms. Corry also received an email from Louis C.K., which was obtained by The Times, saying he owed her a �very very very late apology.� When he phoned her, he said was sorry for shoving her in a bathroom. Ms. Corry replied that he had never done that, but had instead asked to masturbate in front of her. Responding in a shaky voice, he acknowledged it and said, �I used to misread people back then,� she recalled.

The call confounded her, Ms. Corry said: not only had he misremembered the incident, which made her think there were other moments of misconduct, he also implied she had done something to invite his behavior. �It is unfair he�s put me or anyone else in this position,� Ms. Corry said.

Ms. Goodman and Ms. Wolov said that with other allegations swirling around the entertainment world, they could no longer stay silent. �Because of this moment, as gross as it is, we feel compelled to speak,� Ms. Wolov said.

Ms. Notaro said she was standing in support of those with the courage �to speak up against such a powerful figure,� she said, �as well as the multitude of women still out there, not quite ready to share their nightmares.�

# ? Nov 9, 2017 20:53

LtCol J. Krusinski: May 7, 2013

Just saw the Louis C.K. likes to jerk off in front of women who don�t want him to piece drop.

Good lord is everyone powerful or famous and wealthy just a loving huge piece of poo poo?

# ? Nov 9, 2017 20:59

boop the snoot: Jun 3, 2016

LtCol J. Krusinski posted:

Just saw the Louis C.K. likes to jerk off in front of women who don�t want him to piece drop.

Good lord is everyone powerful or famous and wealthy just a loving huge piece of poo poo?

I�m pretty sure women have been telling us about this type of culture for years, we just didn�t care to listen until recently.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 21:00

LtCol J. Krusinski: May 7, 2013

The title of his movie, jfc, is �I love you daddy�

# ? Nov 9, 2017 21:04

Nostalgia4Butts: Jun 1, 2006; WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

hey now i dont feel bad about never watching louie

# ? Nov 9, 2017 21:05

Hot Karl Marx: Mar 16, 2009; Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

LtCol J. Krusinski posted:

Just saw the Louis C.K. likes to jerk off in front of women who don’t want him to piece drop.

Good lord is everyone powerful or famous and wealthy just a loving huge piece of poo poo?

You know, British Parliament has had like 3 pedophilia scandals in the past 50 years. And nothing happened. People with a lust of power are usually predators in some way, looking for more power

# ? Nov 9, 2017 21:05

Riot Carol Danvers: Jul 30, 2004; It's super dumb, but I can't stop myself. This is just kind of how I do things.

boop the snoot posted:

I’m pretty sure women have been telling us about this type of culture for years, we just didn’t care to listen until recently.

P much this

# ? Nov 9, 2017 21:05

shyduck: Oct 3, 2003

Nostalgia4Butts posted:

hey now i dont feel bad about never watching louie

It started out good but then he tried too hard to make it artsy

# ? Nov 9, 2017 21:07

Proud Christian Mom: Dec 20, 2006; READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

LtCol J. Krusinski posted:

Just saw the Louis C.K. likes to jerk off in front of women who don�t want him to piece drop.

Good lord is everyone powerful or famous and wealthy just a loving huge piece of poo poo?

The one trait virtually any powerful/famous/very successful person shares is sociopathy.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 21:08

bloops: Dec 31, 2010; Thanks Ape Pussy!

New York Times racking up a serious body count.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 21:12

ded redd: Aug 1, 2010

Zeroisanumber posted:

Alabama will elect a child rapist before they elect a democrat.

Heh, yeah.
https://twitter.com/lyman_brian/status/928712904374861824
Yeah...

# ? Nov 9, 2017 21:13

Viva Miriya: Jan 9, 2007

Office Pig posted:

Heh, yeah.
https://twitter.com/lyman_brian/status/928712904374861824
Yeah...

White people.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 21:18

Tiny Timbs: Sep 6, 2008

Office Pig posted:

Heh, yeah.
https://twitter.com/lyman_brian/status/928712904374861824
Yeah...

That's uh, one hell of a take. I guess the silver lining on the resurgence in hate speech and bad behavior is that people are making sure their beliefs are clear.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 21:18

psydude: Apr 1, 2008

https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/928700144832401411

e: I laughed

https://twitter.com/Pappiness/status/928706416348663808

psydude fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Nov 9, 2017

# ? Nov 9, 2017 21:18

EBB: Feb 15, 2005

LtCol J. Krusinski posted:

Everyone powerful or famous and wealthy just a loving huge piece of poo poo.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 21:21

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# ? May 3, 2024 07:13

dubzee: Oct 23, 2008

Can't stop the crazy train...

Putin: Doping allegations 'US plot against Russian election'

Pooty Poot posted:

Russian President Vladimir Putin has accused the US of inventing doping allegations against Russian athletes in an attempt to influence next year's presidential election.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 21:23

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