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rex rabidorum vires posted:If he is trying to have the system for 5 years buying the ram upfront makes more sense IMO. Depending on what is being played the ram speed may not make more than 5% on the other hand it might be more like 15%. That said if you're only looking for 60fps it likely won't be an issue. However, for 144hz it'll be worthwhile...nevermind the potential down the road of just slotting a better GPU or *maybe* a new AM4 chip and not having to upgrade the ram too. Isn't the delta for 16gb of 2666 to 3000/3200 like $15/$20? Granted I have the 1600/3200mhz setup but the ram was 125 for 16gb and 2666 at the time was $115. If it's only $15-20, absolutely. If the difference is >$50, you'll see greater gains from investing that into other components (namely the GPU) than the RAM. On a few benchmarks, the speed increase is within the margin of error.. Might be old info (from August) but it specifically addresses this. Not a big deal by any means, just trying to help the budget builders.
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor ($414.89 @ B&H) CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D15S 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($78.88 @ OutletPC) Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370 AORUS Gaming 5 (rev. 1.0) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($154.99 @ Newegg) Storage: SanDisk - Ultra II 960GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Already have) Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 1TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($447.30 @ Amazon) Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC2 Video Card ($739.99 @ Amazon) Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($113.29 @ OutletPC) Monitor: Dell - AW3418DW 34.1" 3440x1440 120Hz Monitor ($999.99 @ Dell) Total: $3099.32 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-24 20:50 EST-0500 Main purpose of this is gaming. The only thing I haven't picked out is the case. The only things I care about for cases are price and that it's easy to work in. Any recommendations? Anyone see any issues with this build?
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pradmer posted:Since people are talking about power supplies B&H has a deal for a EVGA G2 650W for $70 - $20 rebate, so $50 total with free shipping. It's a better deal than the current one that EVGA is offering directly if you can stand going through the rebate process. Huh, I can't order from them until tomorrow because they're observing the Sabbath? I mean fair enough but that's new to me on an online store. It looks like I can't reserve one either, although hopefully this isn't the kinda thing that's likely to sell out.
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Koramei posted:Huh, I can't order from them until tomorrow because they're observing the Sabbath? I mean fair enough but that's new to me on an online store. It looks like I can't reserve one either, although hopefully this isn't the kinda thing that's likely to sell out. B+H is a deeply, deeply religious business. As in, they only hire Hasidic Jewish men and are perfectly OK with paying out religious- and gender-discrimination lawsuits every year or two if that's what it takes to keep their faith. And in strict/conservative Judiasm, you take the sabbath off, no exceptions, even for flipping a light switch. And using machines to do it for you is cheating, unless they're certain kinds of machines that were rules-lawyered to be OK 2000 years ago. I think it's supposed to be OK to hire non-Jews to do poo poo like that for you though, so I don't get why they don't just hire some people to run their servers on Saturday. But - I'm not Jewish let alone orthodox. The good news is that nobody else can order anything either though, so you can shop at your leisure... and unlike Hobby Lobby they don't sue about it, they just eat the financial impact they have on other people's lives and keep on truckin'. Which is respectable enough I guess. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 04:19 on Nov 25, 2017 |
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Price match somewhere else. Try not to give them money because they're humongous pieces of poo poo to their employees.
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I was going to buy my 8700K from them till I saw their post and looked them up. Switched to Newegg for .10 cent difference.
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Country: USA Usage: Gaming PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($287.89 @ B&H) CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($57.99 @ Amazon) Motherboard: Asus - STRIX H270F GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($129.49 @ SuperBiiz) Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($139.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($168.00 @ Amazon) Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($41.77 @ OutletPC) Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB Video Card ($469.99 @ B&H) Case: Raidmax - Vortex ATX Mid Tower Case ($35.98 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.98 @ Newegg) Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($138.99 @ SuperBiiz) Total: $1560.07 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-24 22:51 EST-0500 I've never built a PC before, so I'm mostly looking for some hand-holding/reassurance. Did I make any egregious gently caress-ups? Thank you!
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Mad Jaqk posted:Country: USA The 8700K is out - we highly recommend you move to that instead of sticking with the 7700K, even though it'll add ~$130 to your build. Also, you have until 12/31 to transfer old Win7/8/8.1 licenses for free to Windows 10 using the accessibility loophole. And even though RAM is RAM is RAM is RAM, we're going to suggest you go with G.Skill or Corsair LPX, unless you like waiting for your potential RAM replacement to slowboat from Taiwan. Also, look at the Fractal Design FOCUS cases over that cheap Raidmax. Putting a $15-1700 system in a $40 case? Ew. Consider going to a 1080 as well - right now with Newegg's rebates and Masterpass promo, you can pick one up for the same price you've got listed for that 1070Ti (conversely, you can also use the same trick on the 1070Ti @ Newegg).
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Huh, I had no idea about that with B+H. Ended up just buying it directly from EVGA, thanks for the heads up.BIG HEADLINE posted:Also, you have until 12/31 to transfer old Win7/8/8.1 licenses for free to Windows 10 using the accessibility loophole. Wait, how do you do this? Do you have to have it installed on a system? I have a copy of 7 I'm not using now that I'd definitely like to not waste, especially since I heard new Intel processors require 10 for full functionality right? e: ah I googled it, here's an article if anyone else is curious. How much do you need to change exactly for your current win10 license to void? Is it only when you change the processor/motherboard? Koramei fucked around with this message at 05:19 on Nov 25, 2017 |
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BIG HEADLINE posted:The 8700K is out - we highly recommend you move to that instead of sticking with the 7700K, even though it'll add ~$130 to your build. Also, you have until 12/31 to transfer old Win7/8/8.1 licenses for free to Windows 10 using the accessibility loophole. And even though RAM is RAM is RAM is RAM, we're going to suggest you go with G.Skill or Corsair LPX, unless you like waiting for your potential RAM replacement to slowboat from Taiwan. Cool, just the type of feedback I was looking for. Thank you!
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Can someone suggest to me a cooler for my MITX build? I looked al literally all of the builds (with my case) on PC Part Picker and it seems that the Corsair H100i v2 and Corsair H100i are in the most builds. The Corsair H60 and Cryorig C7 are tied. I don't think I want to have to "deal" with water cooling so I'm leaning towards a fan cooler, but it doesn't seem a lot of people use Be Quiet! or Noctua coolers. Any suggestions?
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obi_ant posted:Can someone suggest to me a cooler for my MITX build? I looked al literally all of the builds (with my case) on PC Part Picker and it seems that the Corsair H100i v2 and Corsair H100i are in the most builds. The Corsair H60 and Cryorig C7 are tied. I don't think I want to have to "deal" with water cooling so I'm leaning towards a fan cooler, but it doesn't seem a lot of people use Be Quiet! or Noctua coolers. Any suggestions? There is absolutely no way for anyone to answer that without knowing what case you have/are looking at. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 06:43 on Nov 25, 2017 |
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Mad Jaqk posted:Cool, just the type of feedback I was looking for. Thank you! Yeah, the Fractal Focus G is still a $40 case, it's just a much, much better $40 case. The mid-ranged Fractal Design cases and Phanteks Eclipse series would be a nice step up from that, only costing you an additional $30-40 or so. obi_ant posted:Can someone suggest to me a cooler for my MITX build? Last you posted it, you had a 7700K listed - any reason it's not an 8700K? BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 06:48 on Nov 25, 2017 |
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor ($409.89 @ OutletPC) CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($88.88 @ OutletPC) Motherboard: Asus - Prime Z370-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($167.89 @ OutletPC) Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($159.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($139.99 @ B&H) Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB ROG STRIX Video Card ($529.99 @ Newegg) Case: Corsair - 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.89 @ B&H) Total: $1606.51 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-25 01:24 EST-0500
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FooF posted:If it's only $15-20, absolutely. Thanks for the good analysis on ram speeds, I'll check out the price diff in a bit to see what makes the most sense.
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Qmass posted:PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant Switch the NEX PSU to an EVGA G3, Corsair RMx, or Seasonic FOCUS Plus. The NEX is old, all those are new. The price difference will be negligible to non-existent. Other than that, solid build - might suggest looking into the Fractal Design or Phanteks $60-80 mid-range cases, though. Again - $1600 build in a $40 case? =/ BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 08:00 on Nov 25, 2017 |
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Paul MaudDib posted:There is absolutely no way for anyone to answer that without knowing what case you have/are looking at. Doh. I purchased a Corsair 250D. The MOBO I picked out is here. BIG HEADLINE posted:
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Good PSU info thanks. The annoying thing in Australia is that direct conversion of that price is AUD 2108.68 but I wont be able to get this stuff locally for much under AUD 2800. So a bit more on a case ends up quite a bit more due to who knows... but I will look into what I'm missing.
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obi_ant posted:The 7700K is a hand me down from a friend. So I wanted to save some bucks. Ah, right - I forgot. Never mind. So many builds in here, I forgot your special case.
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obi_ant posted:Doh. I purchased a Corsair 250D. The MOBO I picked out is here. That's the older version, of the best Z370 mITX mobo on the market and the Z370 version is what I've been passively looking at if I ever had to rebuild my system. I plan these things out in advance... That's a fantastic Z270 motherboard, and that looks like a relatively large case so you should have options in terms of going with an AIO or an air cooler. Do you have a preference here? AIOs have no maintenance but if you pierce them there is the potential for them to leak. I flat-out refuse to buy refurbished AIOs - the warranty is important here because the companies carry a quiet guarantee that they will fix components that your faulty AIO damages, as long as you did not pierce it or something else stupid. Truth is that an AIO is no quieter than something like a big Noctua tower cooler, nor cooler. It comes down to whether you're willing to have a 4-pound copper lever attached to your CPU, how much you're going to move it around, and whether you're willing to spend $125 for the privilege. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 08:16 on Nov 25, 2017 |
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The 250D actually only has 93mm CPU cooler clearance (since the PSU sits underneath the motherboard), and the top panel has a window rather than an intake so it's probably best to leave 1 or 2 cm of that free. So you're basically limited to coolers like the Noctua L12S, Thermalright AXP-100/200 or Scythe Big Shuriken 2.
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Paul MaudDib posted:That's the older version, of the best Z370 mITX mobo on the market and the Z370 version is what I've been passively looking at if I ever had to rebuild my system. I plan these things out in advance... I'm pretty sure that I do not want a water-cooled unit, even though everyone seems to be using that with the same case I'm using. I just don't want to deal with the potential headaches that the water-cooled units can cause. I think I want to stick with an air cooler, but unsure of what specifics I need. But the H100i v2 is currently on sale on Newegg and Amazon for $85. What should I be looking at in terms of air cooling?
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obi_ant posted:I'm pretty sure that I do not want a water-cooled unit, even though everyone seems to be using that with the same case I'm using. I just don't want to deal with the potential headaches that the water-cooled units can cause. I think I want to stick with an air cooler, but unsure of what specifics I need. But the H100i v2 is currently on sale on Newegg and Amazon for $85. What should I be looking at in terms of air cooling? Noctua LH-L9i or LH-L12, depending on whether Llamadeus' figure includes space for the fans or not. I might lean towards the former even if you have space for the latter.
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Any options beside the Noctua - NH-D15 for cooling an i7 8700k ? My local shop is out of stock and I am impatient enough to consider something else.
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Qmass posted:Any options beside the Noctua - NH-D15 for cooling an i7 8700k ? My local shop is out of stock and I am impatient enough to consider something else. Any AIO cooler, or buy something cheap/terrible like the Hyper 212 Evo and then upgrade when you get the part you want.
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What are some good ~equivelents~ to the Asus Prime Z370-A so I consider some more options.
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Qmass posted:Any options beside the Noctua - NH-D15 for cooling an i7 8700k ? My local shop is out of stock and I am impatient enough to consider something else. What about the Cryorig R1 or the cheaper H5?
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Qmass posted:What are some good ~equivelents~ to the Asus Prime Z370-A so I consider some more options. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813144105 would be a good second choice, and there's a pretty healthy rebate on it right now, too.
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warcake posted:Any obvious blunders before I pull the trigger? Sorry to repost this, just after a second opinion. It seems like 8700ks are recommended and I can't stretch my budget to that. Is it worth getting a 1070 and a 8700k?
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warcake posted:Sorry to repost this, just after a second opinion. It seems like 8700ks are recommended and I can't stretch my budget to that. Is it worth getting a 1070 and a 8700k? Assuming you're going primarily for gaming, and you're able to get a monitor somewhat quickly after pulling the trigger, I think you're fine with what you have in that quote. Higher resolutions work your video card more than your CPU. That said, in 2-3 years or so, when games are (most likely) able to take advantage of more cores/threads better than they can now, the hypothetical I7/1070 would probably end up being cheaper to upgrade. Also when you are able to get a monitor for that thing, I suggest this.
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Mooktastical posted:Assuming you're going primarily for gaming, and you're able to get a monitor somewhat quickly after pulling the trigger, I think you're fine with what you have in that quote. Higher resolutions work your video card more than your CPU. That said, in 2-3 years or so, when games are (most likely) able to take advantage of more cores/threads better than they can now, the hypothetical I7/1070 would probably end up being cheaper to upgrade. Thanks for the monitor recommendation. I have gone with the 8600k/1080 combo as all of the 8700k are either out of stock or insanely expensive, and my current PC is dead. Thanks!
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BIG HEADLINE posted:8700K is out. Pair it with a mid-ranged Z370. The ASRock Extreme4 and ASUS STRIX offerings ~$150-180 are all solid choices. Go with the Cryorig H7 over the Hyper 212 EVO. Enjoy. Took your advice, paired the 8700K with an ASUS ROG Strix Z370-E. Went ahead with the 850W power supply because it was only a $20 price diff. Thanks!
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What do you guys think of my tentative build? I'm trying to build a powerful, reasonably priced gaming desktop but I do NOT plan on overclocking: CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.89 @ B&H) CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($28.90 @ Newegg Marketplace) Motherboard: ASRock - Z370M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($121.98 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory ($139.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Crucial - MX300 1.1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($237.99 @ B&H) Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Windforce OC Video Card ($399.99 @ Newegg) Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ SuperBiiz) Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($83.98 @ Newegg) Total: $1292.71
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Ravarek posted:What do you guys think of my tentative build? I'm trying to build a powerful, reasonably priced gaming desktop but I do NOT plan on overclocking: You can ditch the cooler if you're going with a non-k cpu. Intels stock coolers are fine.
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Ravarek posted:What do you guys think of my tentative build? I'm trying to build a powerful, reasonably priced gaming desktop but I do NOT plan on overclocking: The S340 supports a full sized ATX motherboard. May want to consider that instead of a mATX.
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So I'm considering getting a NZXT X62 cooler. For those who already own one, does the CAM software need to be running continuously? Or can I run it as needed whenever I want to change the LED or fan profiles? Also, can I plug the SATA power connector to an existing SATA daisy-chain or does it want its own dedicated power source?
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Matt Zerella posted:You can ditch the cooler if you're going with a non-k cpu. Intels stock coolers are fine. If they're still using the same cooler they have for the last ten years, I really hate that thing. I could never get it to work without twenty minutes of fiddling, worried I was going to break something. Almost any cooler is probably better in that regard.
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I ended up going with this build instead of the ASRock non-fatality board and an MSI Gefore 1060 instead of the Asus DUAL board since both sold out during the day before I could order them. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Newegg) Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($154.99 @ Newegg) Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB ARMOR OCV1 Video Card ($273.98 @ Newegg) Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($93.98 @ Newegg) Total: $782.93 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-25 13:20 EST-0500 The price difference between the 3200 and 2666 RAM was indeed about $10 so I just stuck with the higher speed stuff. I also ended up switching PSUs since EVGA only had that G3 model on sale - presumably a bit overkill for what I need but the 550W version of same was also sold out. Anything obviously stupid that I need to worry about? Anyone want this goofy copy of Quake Champions or whatever that is?
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So for my mom's new PC I wound up with this build: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel - Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($108.79 @ SuperBiiz) Motherboard: ASRock - H270M-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($75.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ B&H) Storage: Hitachi - Deskstar 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.99 @ Amazon) Case: BitFenix - Prodigy (White) Mini ITX Tower Case ($78.99 @ SuperBiiz) Power Supply: EVGA - 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($31.89 @ OutletPC) Optical Drive: Samsung - SH-222AL/BSBS DVD/CD Writer (Purchased For $0.00) Total: $533.62 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-25 14:17 EST-0500 She'd also like a UPS, and I'll probably pick one up myself. Any good choices that won't be overkill for a home office? E: Had the wrong motherboard on the list Fender Anarchist fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Nov 25, 2017 |
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