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TastesBlue
Jan 15, 2008
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dovetaile posted:

Hahaha. I don't get worker's comp; I'm part-time.

Part time and temps get workers comp.

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Kilonum
Sep 30, 2002

You know where you are? You're in the suburbs, baby. You're gonna drive.

dovetaile posted:

Hahaha. I don't get worker's comp; I'm part-time.

Someone's drinking the company kool-aid

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
Big thing about worker's comp is report the injury right away and make sure you go to a doctor approved by the company's comp insurance. And make sure you're very very clear in all conversations that 100% absolutely the injury happened at work.

NerdyMcNerdNerd
Aug 3, 2004


Lol.i halbve already saod i inferno circstances wanttpgback
Remember now, don't say poo poo about poo poo about previous pain or other jobs you've done. If things go that way, they will absolutely try to ratfuck you.

Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


Lets be honest, most companies will ratfuck you in that situation in one way or another. Either by denying the claim and sticking you with the bill or conveniently finding your previously satisfactory work fireable for being below standards. Because workers rights, what are those?

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




dovetaile posted:

Hahaha. I don't get worker's comp; I'm part-time.

Brother/sister, I have good news for you !

Any above-the-table job has workers comp. It's a state thing, not a company thing.

UZworm
Feb 9, 2009

Young wild Elsweyrian
C'mon baby, do you have a soul gem

dovetaile posted:

Hahaha. I don't get worker's comp; I'm part-time.

Somewhere right now your boss is elbowing someone somewhere and saying "I think dovetaile bought it!"

Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

Grimey Drawer

Cop Porn Popper posted:

Lets be honest, most companies will ratfuck you in that situation in one way or another. Either by denying the claim and sticking you with the bill or conveniently finding your previously satisfactory work fireable for being below standards. Because workers rights, what are those?

My coworker was on company time, driving a work truck, and got T-boned. Thankfully there was a witness because the dude that hit him kept insisting his light was green. Coworker has been out on leave for a month now because the dude hit him hard enough to deploy the airbags, his shoulder is still hosed, and only after a month did he get his first workman's comp paycheck. Now the other guy's insurance company keeps calling him and demanding that he pay half the bill. Unfortunately for them (and him) this isn't his first workman's comp deal, so he knows how to gently caress them back.


Wasn't there something in the reddit thread about a banker who was fired after his boss's teenage son pushed him down a flight of stairs as "a prank for Youtube?" The banker broke his arm, and his boss fired him, despite it happening on company time and at the loving office. Even the assholes at Reddit were like "Dude, somewhere a team of lawyers just got steel hard and don't know why."



My friend, despite having worked retail for years, now in IT, is now the rear end in a top hat that is at the near front of every Thanksgiving Day black friday event. He insists it's because he likes watching the crazy people. I think the cheap bastard just likes to rub it in the faces of the workers that because he has no family, they deserve no time with theirs.

So what is the MUST HAVE toy this year? Last year was Hatchimals.

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
Almost every town in the civilized world has several lawyers who specialize in workers comp. If you get hurt at work and your employer gives even the tiniest hint of trouble over it then find out who the most reputable (or, let's say, least disreputable :buddy:) comp firm in town and retain them. Then when anyone calls you demanding anything you say "talk to my lawyer" and hang up.

It sucks being run through the exhausting legal wringer and having to pay a lawyer a third of whatever award you get, but trust me, it sucks WAY WAY WORSE to get stuck with bankrupting medical bills or to refuse treatment and spend the rest of your life in pain because you didn't know how to play the comp game and your employer hosed you over on it.

e: one other thing worth mentioning is that in most of the US, the primary source of employment for private investigators is spying on workers comp claimants on behalf of the employer's insurer, looking for any possible evidence that you're not as hurt as you claim. So be even goonier than usual and don't be caught doing anything even vaguely laborious.

Eric the Mauve fucked around with this message at 15:04 on Nov 24, 2017

chktshadeclaw
Feb 8, 2012
So, normally I work Sunday through Thursday, and have the rest of the week off. My employer usually respects the "availability" that they have on file for us. Well, it turns out that they don't the week of Thanksgiving. Now, I get that they do that because they're gonna just need bodies, to run registers and whatnot, but they scheduled me back to back, Thanksgiving and Black Friday. Being a reasonable person who has poo poo to do, I worked Thanksgiving night, waited until the store opened, and called in to say I couldn't work my Black Friday shift. Somehow, just growing the backbone to do that feels liberating. I'm sure I'll catch hell from HR on next time they're in, of course.

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
:golfclap:

The next step on your liberation journey is realizing, who the hell cares about "catching hell" from HR? Let 'em bitch. You and they both know that you're good at what you do and they're getting a huge bargain at the poo poo wage they pay you. You don't need to put up with scheduling bullshit.

sweeperbravo
May 18, 2012

AUNT GWEN'S COLD SHAPE (!)

NerdyMcNerdNerd posted:

Why are we even open. Who wants to go grocery shopping ON Thanksgiving? The whole point is that you sit around and do nothing but eat and drink.

We hit so much traffic coming home from Thanksgiving dinner last night it took us a half hour longer than usual to get home. The mall parking lots were full and the highways were crawling around the retail-heavy exits.

I don't get it, but then again I never did Black Friday either. Huge crowds are probably the worst, or a contender for worst, part of the shopping experience, why would I knowingly put myself through that.

The only time I ever bought something on Black Friday was when I was in undergrad & home for the weekend, Staples had a sale on like flash drives I needed or something and my mom and I went over there around 6pm to see if they had any left. Place was mostly deserted and we got a few good deals.

D34THROW
Jan 29, 2012

RETAIL RETAIL LISTEN TO ME BITCH ABOUT RETAIL
:rant:
It's me. I'm part of the problem despite having worked retail for some years.

I felt like such a piece of poo poo walking into Walmart last night at 9. Was I going for Black Friday deals? No. I needed diapers and cat food and NyQuil for my sick-as-a-dog wife. But I was shopping on Thanksgiving and part of the problem. Whether given a choice or not, family or not, people who work retail on Thanksgiving and Black Friday are saints and I'm respectful and thankful that they are there.

Pentaghastly
Mar 26, 2016
I didn't expect yesterday to get so bad because it was absolutely dead when I clocked in, but around 430pm before the black friday sales kicked in and we were absolutely swamped with only three employees on the floor, me on bar alone pulling sticker after sticker with no end in sight, DT window times upwards of six minutes. I didnt even get a break until I sent a frantic text to our store manager to come help (he was there in ten minutes, bless). We ran out of vanilla syrup and went through three 2l mocha containers. And the smell of eggnog is stuck in my nose

It felt so good to lock the doors at 8pm and start telling cars that we were closed. When I pulled the last sticker and another one didnt pop out I actually teared up a little. I went home and ate mashed potatoes.

Rhythmancer
Jun 5, 2004
Mr. Saturn
Sometimes, there's nothing like managing an ad break in a retail store to make you feel like a wasteful piece of poo poo. My company likes to send the same packet of ad signage to every store in the chain, regardless of size, so the smaller stores like mine end up throwing half to two-thirds of unneeded poo poo straight into the trash. Black Friday just makes it worse. The last ad changed last Saturday. Four days later, the day before Thanksgiving, half of it went down and into the garbage for the two day Black Friday signage, which is coming down this Saturday evening to be replaced by ad signs, etc for the rest of the month, featuring exactly the same sales on the crap from the four days before Thanksgiving. They are literally the same signs with a different date range on them.

Closing today. Our normal Thursday truck that was scheduled for Wednesday this week due to the holiday had some problem with the driver and rescheduled for some time today instead. When I say "some time," I mean, "We'll call you Friday morning and let you know." So today I may have to receive a truck through our front doors (because we have no loading dock! Yay!) in the middle of the afternoon on Black Friday. Or maybe they'll push it back again. It is a fun mystery!

Retail!

NerdyMcNerdNerd
Aug 3, 2004


Lol.i halbve already saod i inferno circstances wanttpgback
It was determined by someone that sits in a chair all day that our cashiers should, whenever they're not with a customer, move to stand at the front of their lane. This is so you can "let customers know you're open, and welcome them to your lane". You're also supposed to be looking at the other cashiers ( who are now behind you ), so if they need help, you can go bag for them.

The ergonomic foot mats are, of course, behind the register. They don't work if you don't stand on them.

Standing at the front of a lane, under a lit beacon, I still had people walk up and ask, "ARE YOU OPEN?"

Nah lady, I'm bouncing for the cash register and you didn't make the list. Screw.

dovetaile
Jul 8, 2011

Grimey Drawer
I had a woman buy 30 small crickets (so about 4.46) at 8:15 pm and she fuckin paid with a 100 dollar bill. Also i'm 99% sure she had a card too.

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.
This feral family that lives next door to our store and has been banned for stealing just got raided by the police :allears:

Pentaghastly
Mar 26, 2016
Jesus Christ you don't need a handgun in your lap in the starbucks drive through!! I hate the south

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Zenithe posted:

This feral family that lives next door to our store and has been banned for stealing

Please post the rest of this story if it's any good

Anora
Feb 16, 2014

I fuckin suck!🪠
Been working every day since Thanksgiving, and I will say the worst question is "Why are you guys open?"

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.

Volmarias posted:

Please post the rest of this story if it's any good

It wasn't. I only heard second hand from customers as I can't see their house from where I was.

Eventually they got dragged into cop cars in the parking lot and carted off lol, couldn't have happened to a nice bunch of drug dealers.

Yawgmoth
Sep 10, 2003

This post is cursed!

NerdyMcNerdNerd posted:

It was determined by someone that sits in a chair all day that our cashiers should, whenever they're not with a customer, move to stand at the front of their lane. This is so you can "let customers know you're open, and welcome them to your lane". You're also supposed to be looking at the other cashiers ( who are now behind you ), so if they need help, you can go bag for them.

The ergonomic foot mats are, of course, behind the register. They don't work if you don't stand on them.

Standing at the front of a lane, under a lit beacon, I still had people walk up and ask, "ARE YOU OPEN?"

Nah lady, I'm bouncing for the cash register and you didn't make the list. Screw.
I had this poo poo when I was a cashier and it was the dumbest poo poo ever. I had 15 times as many people asking if I was open, it made my legs and back sore as gently caress, and wasted probably a full hour of walking back and forth to no actual value. I'm convinced that in order to make grocery store policy you can never have been within 50ft of a grocery store.

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


NerdyMcNerdNerd posted:

It was determined by someone that sits in a chair all day that our cashiers should, whenever they're not with a customer, move to stand at the front of their lane. This is so you can "let customers know you're open, and welcome them to your lane". You're also supposed to be looking at the other cashiers ( who are now behind you ), so if they need help, you can go bag for them.

The ergonomic foot mats are, of course, behind the register. They don't work if you don't stand on them.

Standing at the front of a lane, under a lit beacon, I still had people walk up and ask, "ARE YOU OPEN?"

Nah lady, I'm bouncing for the cash register and you didn't make the list. Screw.

I think the place I worked at long ago tried this - because I distinctly remember thinking how dumb it was, because the exact same things would happen. But then I also swear I remember never actually doing it / avoiding doing it as much as possible and somehow getting away with it. I'm not sure how. Maybe it was because we had a union and if they pushed anyone enough they could just complain to the union?

Leal
Oct 2, 2009
Yeah when I worked at Kmart and the whole 5 times I was cashier I was told to stand out in front of my lane so people will know that my register is open. Cause you know, the customer can't just walk down the registers and see a person standing at one and assume they're open. They stand at the edge of the registers shivering in fear that what if, just what if, none of these lines are open?!

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


I think it's like some awkward game of D&D or an old-school text adventure where you need to be very deliberate.

> check checkout
You see many checkouts in front of you
> use checkout
Which one?
> check for open checkout
Checkout 5 has a light on and a cashier standing behind the till
> use checkout 5
You were eaten by a grue. (The cashier was a grue) Game Over.

I'd understand the confusion if there was a light on and no cashier, or no light and a cashier. I had to work with a burnt out light for awhile and it was annoying having to confirm to people I was open. At the same time I appreciated them asking because nothing's worse then someone plopping down a bunch of poo poo when you were trying to close up.

NerdyMcNerdNerd
Aug 3, 2004


Lol.i halbve already saod i inferno circstances wanttpgback

Oxyclean posted:

I think the place I worked at long ago tried this - because I distinctly remember thinking how dumb it was, because the exact same things would happen. But then I also swear I remember never actually doing it / avoiding doing it as much as possible and somehow getting away with it. I'm not sure how. Maybe it was because we had a union and if they pushed anyone enough they could just complain to the union?

You can ignore it, depending on which CSM is on duty. If it's one of the older ladies you're hosed because they're all gung-ho. Anyone that isn't a 50-60 year old lifer doesn't really care.

Cash registers are easy peasy.

Light + cashier = Open.
Light - cashier = Open, but not at the register ( most of the time ). Probably bullshitting if it's slow, or fetching cigarettes/helping someone if it's busy.
No light + cashier = I am trying to finish my queue and get the gently caress away from this register.

People really shouldn't need someone to wave them in like they're landing a jet on a carrier in a gale. If they do, they're oblivious, or your layout is poo poo.

Yawgmoth
Sep 10, 2003

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Business, Finance, and Careers › Reasons I No Longer Desire to Work in Retail v3.1 (The cashier was a grue)

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT MY SHITTY, BOUGIE INTERIOR DECORATING ADVICE
we have an actual large sign we place on the conveyor belt behind the last customer to signal that we are closed (in addition to turning our light off); and yet customers will attempt to just walk past it and plonk their stuff down anyway. Many will look at the sign, then proceed to either ignore it; or ask the cashier if they're open. Once I had a man move my sign out of the way so he could put his groceries down.

Garrand
Dec 28, 2012

Rhino, you did this to me!

It's always kind of awkward to get those customers that aren't, say, bad customers or angry or something but are just kind of...I don't really want to say dumb but I have to try really hard not to sound super patronizing while also explaining extremely basic stuff.

Like today I had a customer who didn't understand that you could take a two pronged cord and plug it into a grounded receptacle; he came in looking for an adapter to take his 2 pronged leaf blower and plug it into a grounded extension cord. Like I had to try and repeatedly explain it for a solid 2 minutes before he caught on. Or that one time where I had to explain to a lady what the male and female ends of a garden hose were.

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


Garrand posted:

It's always kind of awkward to get those customers that aren't, say, bad customers or angry or something but are just kind of...I don't really want to say dumb but I have to try really hard not to sound super patronizing while also explaining extremely basic stuff.

Like today I had a customer who didn't understand that you could take a two pronged cord and plug it into a grounded receptacle; he came in looking for an adapter to take his 2 pronged leaf blower and plug it into a grounded extension cord. Like I had to try and repeatedly explain it for a solid 2 minutes before he caught on. Or that one time where I had to explain to a lady what the male and female ends of a garden hose were.

Like you can't be mad at them really because they aren't being awful, but it's FRUSTRATING

I get you

Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

Grimey Drawer

Shugojin posted:

Like you can't be mad at them really because they aren't being awful, but it's FRUSTRATING

I get you

Mddle aged people who have never sent an email, used a fax machine, and get upset when you can't be a teacher and help them set up an ebay account or an email account or teach them how to type.

Kickshaw
Sep 6, 2012
I've been at this store a year and a half and seen two kitchen managers burn out and quit. I'm the most senior person I'm the kitchen now--everyone who was here when I was hired has been fired or quit. I'm the fourth most senior person in the entire STORE! The only people who've been here longer are the head cashier, the grocery manager, and the night manager.

It may be time to move on, before they try to make me kitchen manager.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Eric the Mauve posted:

Almost every town in the civilized world has several lawyers who specialize in workers comp. If you get hurt at work and your employer gives even the tiniest hint of trouble over it then find out who the most reputable (or, let's say, least disreputable :buddy:) comp firm in town and retain them. Then when anyone calls you demanding anything you say "talk to my lawyer" and hang up.

It sucks being run through the exhausting legal wringer and having to pay a lawyer a third of whatever award you get, but trust me, it sucks WAY WAY WORSE to get stuck with bankrupting medical bills or to refuse treatment and spend the rest of your life in pain because you didn't know how to play the comp game and your employer hosed you over on it.

The civilised world has things like the NHS, actually :shobon:

(Not that you can't also get compensation if your company has hosed up in some way to cause your injury)

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


Cowslips Warren posted:

Mddle aged people who have never sent an email, used a fax machine, and get upset when you can't be a teacher and help them set up an ebay account or an email account or teach them how to type.

See, "get upset" is important there. If someone is very nice and polite but also dumb as hell it's hard to be mad at them in the same way as someone who starts treating you like an idiot.

Beastie
Nov 3, 2006

They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.


Cowslips Warren posted:

Mddle aged people who have never sent an email, used a fax machine, and get upset when you can't be a teacher and help them set up an ebay account or an email account or teach them how to type.

I got this at Barnes and Noble all the time. Boomers would come in and buy a Nook and then I'd sit down to help them set it up. But they didn't want help setting it up, they wanted me to sit there for an hour and a half and show them every aspect of the device.

It really shouldn't be my job to help you retrieve your Gmail password so we can put the account on your Nook.

I'll happily show you how to browse the shop, pin some apps to your home screen, but that kind of tech support is reserved for your nephew or the nice girl across the street that you could give $25 to help.

Another couple had trouble getting their device on their wifi, so after me trying to unsuccessfully walk them through it over the phone (like herding cats) they brought in their Nook, their laptop, and their router. I begged my boss to tell them we couldn't help them, then I spent 30 minutes sifting through their documents (with their permission) looking for the .txt with their Wifi password that they claimed their daughter made.

We also had people without internet routinely call our store so we could Google something for them.

Anora
Feb 16, 2014

I fuckin suck!🪠
I kind of have the same issue, but my store has an app that you need to use to access our digital coupons. All of one in ten people know how to use it. Most people just see the ads in our circular or the little stickers on the shelves and think it's automatic, those people usually just get mad and yell at me.

Then we have special people that have the app, but don't know how to use it. They'll do one of a few things:
1) Not add the coupons to their list
2) Not enter in their phone number at the register, so it can go "oh you have coupons."
3) wait until I'm done with the transaction to ask when they put in their digital coupons, then ask how to fix it (which is basically to return everything, and do the transaction over)
4) try to use digital and paper coupons, which sometimes stack, but not always, then get pissed off.
5) just not read the loving coupon (that says Detergent lady, not dryer sheets, and why do you need 20 boxes, every week?)

Also, jesus christ I hate couponers, they come in wanting to buy poo poo for pennies because someone, somewhere has a photo of a receipt with something on sale that they hit with like 4 different coupons, yet have no idea how, then get pissed when they can only knock it down to a dollar. Then just leave the item at the register.

Yawgmoth
Sep 10, 2003

This post is cursed!
To be fair, that sounds like an insufferable pain in the rear end just to get 35 cents off shake-n-bake. Just put the loving things on sale or don't, quit making me sign up for apps and newsletters and poo poo!

cephalopods
Aug 11, 2013

But engagement!

I find myself in a constant circle of "I wish we could give these old people a free code for our personal shopping service to incentivize staying the hell out of our store", then I hit the "oh wait, they can't computer" realization.

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Anora
Feb 16, 2014

I fuckin suck!🪠

Yawgmoth posted:

To be fair, that sounds like an insufferable pain in the rear end just to get 35 cents off shake-n-bake. Just put the loving things on sale or don't, quit making me sign up for apps and newsletters and poo poo!

From my understanding of them, they basically have nothing else to do but coupon shop in their free time.

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