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A Neurotic Corncob
Nov 12, 2016

A light wind swept over the corn, and all nature laughed in the sunshine.

New PTU Build Patch Notes posted:

The Star Kitten Dragonfly should now properly appear in game.

Maybe reminding everyone of the last big CIG controversy will help people forget about this one? CIG is really outdoing itself today. :allears:

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lazorexplosion
Mar 19, 2016

They aren't selling ships, they're selling the ability to claim ships from a ship terminal. It's completely different.

BluesShaman
Apr 25, 2016

She wore Blue Velvet.

Nyast posted:

Allright, so you can claim land. Once you do, it'll just be a barren useless piece of terrain right ? So the only interest in acquiring a piece of land is for housing purposes. So it'd be logical that they'd start selling buildings next.

How much ? Place your bets.

Would be pretty fun if a single building was as expensive as a ship, like $500. Would love to see the face of the guys who got a land claim but couldn't afford a building that goes on it.

Wrong. Mining is going to be implemented in 3.1 which is right around the bend.

You'll obviously want to take core samples of potential claims, and only choose the most lucrative mining spot.

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





Nyast posted:

Allright, so you can claim land. Once you do, it'll just be a barren useless piece of terrain right ? So the only interest in acquiring a piece of land is for housing purposes. So it'd be logical that they'd start selling buildings next.

How much ? Place your bets.

Would be pretty fun if a single building was as expensive as a ship, like $500. Would love to see the face of the guys who got a land claim but couldn't afford a building that goes on it.

I'm thinking they're gonna wait a bit, reddit still needs some time to warm up to the idea

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Virtual Captain
Feb 20, 2017

Archive Priest of the Stimperial Order

Star Citizen Good, in all things forevermore. Amen.
:pray:
This is good for Star Citizen. Hear me out.

Obviously the space adventure MMO, Star Citizen was never going to happen. This is just one giant step into refactoring the game into a more CryEngine Lumberyard friendly format.

MilesK
Nov 5, 2015

Nyast posted:

Allright, so you can claim land. Once you do, it'll just be a barren useless piece of terrain right ? So the only interest in acquiring a piece of land is for housing purposes. So it'd be logical that they'd start selling buildings next.

How much ? Place your bets.

Would be pretty fun if a single building was as expensive as a ship, like $500. Would love to see the face of the guys who got a land claim but couldn't afford a building that goes on it.

They already sold a spaceship that builds planetside outposts.It was $850.

https://starcitizen.tools/Pioneer

Enchanted Hat
Aug 18, 2013

Defeated in Diplomacy under suspicious circumstances

Nyast posted:

Allright, so you can claim land. Once you do, it'll just be a barren useless piece of terrain right ? So the only interest in acquiring a piece of land is for housing purposes. So it'd be logical that they'd start selling buildings next.

How much ? Place your bets.

Would be pretty fun if a single building was as expensive as a ship, like $500. Would love to see the face of the guys who got a land claim but couldn't afford a building that goes on it.

I think they're going to do the classic price anchoring technique:

- Really lovely tiny outpost that will embarrass you in front of your peers: $100

- Regular player outpost that everyone will be expected to buy: $250

- Ridiculously expensive outpost to make the regular outpost seem cheap: $750 (Clifford will buy three)

Abuminable
Mar 30, 2017

Now, aside from the Abuminable, business goes on as usual.
Proper demonstration of how to use a GEOTACK marking beacon:



Giant can now sleep soundly knowing the police will come to protect his land.

Abuminable fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Nov 29, 2017

thatguy
Feb 5, 2003
Thread is good again by the way.

Love you guys.

Virtual Captain
Feb 20, 2017

Archive Priest of the Stimperial Order

Star Citizen Good, in all things forevermore. Amen.
:pray:

Milky Moor posted:

THEY loving SAID "DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU SEE ON REDDIT" AND THEN STARTED SELLING LAND FIVE MINUTES LATER AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

:five::five::five:

BluesShaman
Apr 25, 2016

She wore Blue Velvet.

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen

quote:

I knew /r/Games would be one of the first to overreact to this. They're not selling virtual land. They're essentially selling UEE protection (think space police) in UEE controlled space. And this will be available for everyone in-game without spending real money.

I just can't get over how CIG can come out and say "Nuh uh" even though they are very clearly and deliberately selling land and half of their fans will run out and start correcting people immediately.

THEY SAID THEY WEREN'T SO THEY AREN'T IT'S JUST COINCIDENTAL THAT IT'S CALLED A TERRAIN CLAIM BEACON AND YOU USE IT TO MAKE IT ILLEGAL FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO BE ON YOUR LA- I MEAN NOT YOUR LAND BECAUSE THAT WOULD IMPLY OWNERSHIP

Sarsapariller fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Nov 29, 2017

Variable 5
Apr 17, 2007
We do these things not because they are easy, but because we thought they would be easy.
Grimey Drawer
Okay, this has to be the ELE. Right?




...right?

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

I made too many promises and I need cash now!

Golli
Jan 5, 2013



MilesK posted:

They already sold a spaceship that builds planetside outposts.It was $850.

https://starcitizen.tools/Pioneer

The Pioneer can probably be exploded along with its claim stick by a single shot from a shoulder-mounted rail gun. Or by stomping real hard a few times.

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

Nyast posted:

Allright, so you can claim land. Once you do, it'll just be a barren useless piece of terrain right ? So the only interest in acquiring a piece of land is for housing purposes. So it'd be logical that they'd start selling buildings next.

How much ? Place your bets.

Would be pretty fun if a single building was as expensive as a ship, like $500. Would love to see the face of the guys who got a land claim but couldn't afford a building that goes on it.

I called this like 3 pages ago. :colbert:

thatguy
Feb 5, 2003
This is going to basically become LTI 2.0. Calling it now.

Mu77ley
Oct 14, 2016

big nipples big life posted:

PC Gamer loves star citizen, I wonder how they are going to spin this.

Same as always, however CIG have paid them to spin it.

Golli
Jan 5, 2013



Sarsapariller posted:

I just can't get over how CIG can come out and say "Nuh uh" even though they are very clearly and deliberately selling land and half of their fans will run out and start correcting people immediately.

THEY SAID THEY WEREN'T SO THEY AREN'T IT'S JUST COINCIDENTAL THAT IT'S CALLED A TERRAIN CLAIM BEACON AND YOU USE IT TO MAKE IT ILLEGAL FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO BE ON YOUR LA- I MEAN NOT YOUR LAND BECAUSE THAT WOULD IMPLY OWNERSHIP

This allows the UEE to later charge ground rent on your leasehold property (presumable based on mineral content, etc) in addition to property tax on the value of all improvements. And it also makes it unable to be subdivided, resold, or leased out to other players. An outright sale of the land via a deed would be problematic in this regard.

Golli fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Nov 29, 2017

Sabreseven
Feb 27, 2016

Which ever way you look at it, it's just another big old chunk of technical debt.

Only, it's not specified by the game, or the engine, it's specified by the player, the end user and where he plants his 'safe space stick'.

CIG have just told the world, that they don't mind having griefers, they don't mind their playerbase being griefed and trolled in game, because they can potentially make money from players wanting to feel safe, they have literally just privatized and monetized GOONFEAR. The pvp slider is completely redundant, because if it were a thing then the 'safe space sticks' would be useless once the slider was set to 'pve' or 'nice people only' mode.

YOU HEAR THAT B'TAK? No safe spaces or protection from griefing unless you throw notes at CIG, and they just made you their bitch. :)

thatguy
Feb 5, 2003
In the next few days we're going to see the exact same type of backpedaling as we saw with LTI all those years ago. I can't wait.

BluesShaman
Apr 25, 2016

She wore Blue Velvet.


response looking pretty anemic...

Time to start drawing up a list for the first round of layoffs.

Mu77ley
Oct 14, 2016

Dusty Lens posted:

Unless I'm mistaken that dude on the far right is Dave Haddock

You cod be right.

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

The big hour is just Clifford.

Nanako the Narc
Sep 6, 2011

CIG's slam-dunk to save the end of the sale turned out to be nothing more than a wet fart:





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_asNhzXq72w

[EDIT] BluesShaman :argh:

XK
Jul 9, 2001

Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baOd4MLeFkM&t=2372s

hahahahahaha

Partridge in a Pear Tree, but Star Citizen style.

XK fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Nov 29, 2017

Experimental Skin
Apr 16, 2016

his nibs posted:

Citizens are funny fuckwits

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxEHIdtCBjs

SCtrumpHaters
Oct 28, 2017

by Nyc_Tattoo

Variable 5 posted:

Okay, this has to be the ELE. Right?




...right?

Nope. 2/3rds of the citizens are already back on board. The rest will be back on in a day or so. They've sold a few tens of thousands of land claims in the last few hours.

Main reason is they are either willing to praise anything CIG does, or are smooth brained enough to buy the "its a signal beacon, not land" thing.

G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

what's going on with star citizen my man? i sorta checked out around citcon

Your absence is the thread’s loss, TB.

Post CitizenCon has been a bit of a lull, but here’s a highlight reel (I’m not current on the thread so apologies if this is repeats.)

1) YouTube Streamer “FailureToReport”, who had transitioned gradually over the last many months intonte Skeptic camp, finally crossed the Rubicon, went full Heretic, got an SA account, had fisticuffs with the Internet’s most inexhaustible slapfighter, and then dropped a pro-tier level work of firebombing Citizen trollery on his YouTube channel.

2) Longtime SC Trades mod (and presumably a disinterested facilitator of transactions) Jester ended up creating a conspicuous evidence trail suggesting he had an alt with which he bought ships.

3) /DerekSmart subreddit was turned to read-only mode prior to 3.0’s launch. Victory was declared by all parties across the spectrum and now the past denizens (including that hot British model, BooHuxley, who just loves her some space sims because OF COURSE HOT MODELS WOULD!) are seeking refuge elsewhere and bringing their compulsive, never-ending dialogue about the absolutely irrelevant “never was” that must nevertheless always always always be invoked, discussed, dissected, insulted, countered, mocked due to the extent of his irrelevance.

4) MOMA is mostly chill and remains a welcome voice of contrast.

5) CIG is getting into the virtual real estate business and everyone is delighted about it.

6) The thread has some welcome new participants with unique insights and contributions.

6) Dreams are happening. Always.

HycoCam
Jul 14, 2016

You should have backed Transverse!
Not sure why goons are having a hard time believing CIG when they say they aren't selling land. CIG is being truthful with the statement they aren't selling land. Sure CIG is selling land claim stakes--but there will never, ever be any game mechanic to support actually using the stake to claim land. This is the same development house that removed the tutorial from the game because they couldn't get missles to work. The same bunch of coders that hasn't created ANY actual game mechanics.

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer
Reaction to land grab not good.

Implement panic plan.
Step one, damage control on spectrum.
Step two, sell something else, we need money bad.

Golli
Jan 5, 2013



HycoCam posted:

Not sure why goons are having a hard time believing CIG when they say they aren't selling land. CIG is being truthful with the statement they aren't selling land. Sure CIG is selling land claim stakes--but there will never, ever be any game mechanic to support actually using the stake to claim land. This is the same development house that removed the tutorial from the game because they couldn't get missles to work. The same bunch of coders that hasn't created ANY actual game mechanics.

This-

Realistically, none of this matters because it will never be implemented.

So from where Chris sits, they just made a couple hundred grand in a couple of hours just by being brazen. How much money did YOU make in the past couple of hours?

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

AP posted:

Reaction to land grab not good.

Implement panic plan.
Step one, damage control on spectrum.
Step two, sell something else, we need money bad.

Step 3

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Ursine Catastrophe
Nov 9, 2009

It's a lovely morning in the void and you are a horrible lady-in-waiting.



don't ask how i know

Dinosaur Gum

HycoCam posted:

Not sure why goons are having a hard time believing CIG when they say they aren't selling land. CIG is being truthful with the statement they aren't selling land. Sure CIG is selling land claim stakes--but there will never, ever be any game mechanic to support actually using the stake to claim land. This is the same development house that removed the tutorial from the game because they couldn't get missles to work. The same bunch of coders that hasn't created ANY actual game mechanics.

The treachery of images.

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

XK posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baOd4MLeFkM&t=2372s

hahahahahaha

Partridge in a Pear Tree, but Star Citizen style.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

BeigeJacket
Jul 21, 2005

https://mobile.twitter.com/CliffordakaMiku/status/935617124273475584

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer
Can't wait for the December massive sale.

thatguy
Feb 5, 2003
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYcXcCpD0qA

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The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

G0RF posted:

Did you know that Cloud Imperium Games is dedicated to bring Girl Power back to gaming, Virtual Captain? Whether by demonstrating equitable hiring practices or by accurately, lovingly modeling the female form — both assets and animations like Hip Sway (rowr!)— CIG is studio at the forefront of a revolution of fairer treatment of the fairer gender!



I love being represented as boob jiggle and rear end swish. This is what girl power is all about.

That and cooking. Lots and lots of cooking.

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