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To be fair, most people in Verona would have probably spoken Venetian as opposed to like, Latin. Or even whatever Italian dialect was spoken in the Papal States. e: also, does a player pope really not get any say in who gets colonization rights? That’s lame. If I’m the pope and I want to reserve the whole new world for myself, I should be able to do it, dammit. skasion fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Nov 29, 2017 |
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so i'm doing an iran play-through, going pretty well. do i not get trade companies in the east indies unless i move my capital to europe?
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 21:13 |
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skasion posted:e: also, does a player pope really not get any say in who gets colonization rights? That’s lame. If I’m the pope and I want to reserve the whole new world for myself, I should be able to do it, dammit. Spain just went Protestant. Good job. For real though, you can reserve the whole New World for yourself as Switzerland, if you want. You just have to be willing to enforce your claim.
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 21:24 |
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sudo rm -rf posted:so i'm doing an iran play-through, going pretty well. No trade companies on the same continent as your capital. So you can do Africa, but not the Indies.
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 21:25 |
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sudo rm -rf posted:so i'm doing an iran play-through, going pretty well. you'll need to move your capital to Europe (Anatolia works) or Africa (Egypt for example). it doesn't particularly make sense that Middle Eastern nations can't get trade companies in SE Asia, for example in my Yemen game I'm colonizing but all of Indonesia will be regular provinces and not trade companies for me edit: it also doesn't mesh very well with the new Muslim religious propagation through trading mechanic Pellisworth fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Nov 29, 2017 |
# ? Nov 29, 2017 21:32 |
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They should add trade company regions to Europe.
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 21:39 |
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Just wondering, but how fun is Burgundy to play? I was thinking of doing a Netherlands run but I don't often see people playing Burgundy so I was wondering if there was some lovely element to it, of it was generally unfun compared to other nations. I remember the Burgundy AI being fairly formidable but that was long ago and I am not sure if that applies to a player ran version?
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 21:47 |
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Fister Roboto posted:They should add trade company regions to Europe. It might seem like I'm empty-quoting this, but that's because I am.
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 21:58 |
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SkySteak posted:Just wondering, but how fun is Burgundy to play? I was thinking of doing a Netherlands run but I don't often see people playing Burgundy so I was wondering if there was some lovely element to it, of it was generally unfun compared to other nations. I remember the Burgundy AI being fairly formidable but that was long ago and I am not sure if that applies to a player ran version? It’s decent fun, yeah. A bit of a tricky start because you’re right between France and the HRE and are almost guaranteed to piss off at least one of them right away. But you have a good PU swarm, decent ideas, the Burgundian inheritance disaster only applies to the AI and not you, and you can strangle France in the crib with a bit of work. Once you clear out your PU juniors, you’re in a good position to dominate the English Channel node, form Netherlands, colonize, simply replace France, or really whatever.
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 22:00 |
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i don't like merc ideas ever since they made mercs cost so much. but burgundy is basically france jr i guess and i still like it because it was my first nation
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skasion posted:To be fair, most people in Verona would have probably spoken Venetian as opposed to like, Latin. Or even whatever Italian dialect was spoken in the Papal States. Yeah it depends on which catholic country gets the first colony in a region.
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 22:06 |
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skasion posted:e: also, does a player pope really not get any say in who gets colonization rights? That’s lame. If I’m the pope and I want to reserve the whole new world for myself, I should be able to do it, dammit. Iirc, the agreement was really between Spain and Portugal to divide colonization rights, and The Pope was more of just a neutral third party that approved it. The Papal states didn't really give a drat who colonized what personally. It would be kind of cool if there was some system for countries to make treaties/agreements like that with each other, though. You know, without brutally murdering each other. Fister Roboto posted:They should add trade company regions to Europe. They'd need bidirectional trade nodes first.
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 22:16 |
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Fister Roboto posted:They should add trade company regions to Europe.
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AnoHito posted:Iirc, the agreement was really between Spain and Portugal to divide colonization rights, and The Pope was more of just a neutral third party that approved it. The Papal states didn't really give a drat who colonized what personally. Alexander VI wasn't neutral though, in fact he helped procure a fake papal bull allowing Ferdinand and Isabella to marry since they were second cousins. It'd be cool if you could have some influence on "helping" the pope decide who gets what in game.
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# ? Nov 30, 2017 02:46 |
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White Coke posted:Alexander VI wasn't neutral though, in fact he helped procure a fake papal bull allowing Ferdinand and Isabella to marry since they were second cousins. It'd be cool if you could have some influence on "helping" the pope decide who gets what in game. but the papacy is already drowning in money, why would ... ooooh.
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# ? Nov 30, 2017 08:30 |
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Welp, I guess I can finally stop playing Austria. This is on my sixth or seventh attempt at forming the HRE. It is kind of disappointing that you are actually way more powerful on the second final HRE reform (the one that vassalizes all the HRE members). I made them all marches, and declared war on Aragon and the UK - My vassals ate them almost single handedly. When I passed the last reform, and all these vassal armies became my armies, I was at 630/230 force limit.
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# ? Nov 30, 2017 10:42 |
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Geisladisk posted:
Yeah this is one of those things which makes no sense and I wish that they would just rework the last 2 reforms so that you actually have an incentive to press the button. I feel the same way about Japan, if you're just playing to be efficient actually forming Japan is a huge idiot trap because if you don't you can make new Diamyo vassals
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# ? Nov 30, 2017 13:28 |
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skasion posted:It’s decent fun, yeah. A bit of a tricky start because you’re right between France and the HRE and are almost guaranteed to piss off at least one of them right away. But you have a good PU swarm, decent ideas, the Burgundian inheritance disaster only applies to the AI and not you, and you can strangle France in the crib with a bit of work. Once you clear out your PU juniors, you’re in a good position to dominate the English Channel node, form Netherlands, colonize, simply replace France, or really whatever. Important note when taking over the low countries: moving your captial there will prevent dutch rebels from spawning which is vital, as they can and will spawn constant 20+ stacks of rebels otherwise. I can't remember if Burgundy starts with its capital there, but make sure to move it if it's not! I should say it's been awhile since I played there, but I believe this is how it works still.
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# ? Nov 30, 2017 13:42 |
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I think BUR has an exception to the dutch rebels or something like that. You can also avoid it by culture switching to Dutch.
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# ? Nov 30, 2017 13:57 |
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burgundy deffo did not have an exception from dutch rebels when i did Burgundian Conquest in 1.18
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oddium posted:burgundy deffo did not have an exception from dutch rebels when i did Burgundian Conquest in 1.18 Might be mixing together my memory with super early version or EU3....
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# ? Nov 30, 2017 14:01 |
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Lagnar posted:Important note when taking over the low countries: moving your captial there will prevent dutch rebels from spawning which is vital, as they can and will spawn constant 20+ stacks of rebels otherwise. You can either move your capital there (Burgundy starts with its in Bourgogne) or culture shift to Dutch or Flemish (Burgundy started with Burgundian) or form Netherlands (if you’re Burgundy, this will do both of those things for you, at the cost of ceding all your French cores to France if they exist! I don’t remember this being the case but that’s sure a drawback if the wiki page is right).
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# ? Nov 30, 2017 14:13 |
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skasion posted:You can either move your capital there (Burgundy starts with its in Bourgogne) Is this for anyone or only for Burgundy? I just wrapped up a Dithmarschen run where I moved my capital to Holland and still suffered constant Dutch revolts. They only stopped in the last century or so for some reason.
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# ? Nov 30, 2017 17:07 |
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code:
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# ? Nov 30, 2017 17:14 |
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Or when a province revolts you can just choose to give concessions and 100% local autonomy instead of fighting rebels, which wont spread the revolts.
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# ? Nov 30, 2017 18:14 |
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https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/1-23-ottoman-to-coptic-england-fast-revoke.1057953/
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# ? Nov 30, 2017 18:16 |
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Groogy posted:Yes it is? You do know most people are not you right? Most people I've ever talked to the game about never play the game to the end unless they're going for specific cheevos but yes technically most humans aren't me. Congratulations on your pedantry I guess. New Butt Order fucked around with this message at 03:28 on Dec 1, 2017 |
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Pretty sure Groogy has access to the actual real figures that say exactly what dates people play until rather than just relying on hearsay, though.
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 04:14 |
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PittTheElder posted:
Jesus christ that is such a meticulous sequence of things that have to happen I like converting to Catholic Ottomans, becoming HRE emperor, spawn Coptic zealots and let them run rampant, pass a bunch of reforms, tag switch to England to get all of your provinces removed from the HRE, flip to Coptic, then pass a bunch more reforms for free. ~100 Vassals as Coptic England in 1511. Fuuuuuuuuu
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 07:35 |
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QuarkJets posted:Jesus christ that is such a meticulous sequence of things that have to happen I'm not nearly as good the players who do things like this. How do you even conquer England by that time?
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 07:48 |
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Ally France, no CB Tyrone, beat up England a lot, make sure Scotland takes some land. The posts are actually insanely detailed.
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 08:04 |
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Yeah the strategy is awesome as hell. You definitely need to know your way around the game to meet that timeline but drat
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 08:26 |
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That's the kind of thing that usually gets fixed pretty quickly, quicker than Ming anyhow.
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 09:05 |
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Koramei posted:Pretty sure Groogy has access to the actual real figures that say exactly what dates people play until rather than just relying on hearsay, though. Without delving too deep into it(since some time since I looked at it), it is big enough percentage of started sessions reporting a later start date from a save to a degree that it can't be ignored. Also the percentage go way up if you only count multiplayer games. Either way it's not something we can just "Meh who cares about the 1700"?
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 09:23 |
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Can you get an intern to do stats on that for a dev diary, like you did with HoI4? Like top 20 Nation picks, average game length, etc?
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 09:27 |
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We already have a topic decided for the next dev diary but maybe in the near future.
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 09:57 |
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QuarkJets posted:Jesus christ that is such a meticulous sequence of things that have to happen It's dark sorcery, that's what it is.
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 10:20 |
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Tahirovic posted:That's the kind of thing that usually gets fixed pretty quickly, quicker than Ming anyhow. i only read like five of the posts but what is there to fix
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Groogy posted:Without delving too deep into it(since some time since I looked at it), it is big enough percentage of started sessions reporting a later start date from a save to a degree that it can't be ignored. Also the percentage go way up if you only count multiplayer games. Either way it's not something we can just "Meh who cares about the 1700"? I have to say I have tons of respect for the person who decided to make sure the world map (or at least the European one) was accurate every single day until the end date.
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Mans posted:I have to say I have tons of respect for the person who decided to make sure the world map (or at least the European one) was accurate every single day until the end date. It's real cool when I decide to play an obscure ruler from late in the timeline and I find them there and the whole map accurately portrayed. Not that I do that very often.
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