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Intruder posted:Roids are hell on the joints and being (not so?) secretly 65 years old
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Dec 5, 2017 02:32
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Do you all like to imagine alternate timelines where Junior and Pujols remain healthy throughout their entire careers? What players bodies completely fall apart in those timelines?
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Dec 5, 2017 02:32
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pujols basically did stay healthy, didn't he? i mean he got old and can't move and maybe had some nagging things but he only missed significant time in a season like once. not really comparable to griffey's entire early 30s getting derailed
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Dec 5, 2017 02:37
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Dutchy posted:pujols basically did stay healthy, didn't he? i mean he got old and can't move and maybe had some nagging things but he only missed significant time in a season like once. not really comparable to griffey's entire early 30s getting derailed He's had offseason surgery like 3 or 4 times as an Angel and basically lives with plantar fasciitis. Normal 30-35 year olds can still run without being in agonizing pain.
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Dec 5, 2017 02:48
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So here's some fun Albert Pujols math. Pujols put up -1.8 WAR this season. The average career WAR of 1st baseman in the hall of fame is about 66. How many more years would Pujols have to play putting up the same WAR as this year for his career WAR to be reduced to that average? 19, rounding up. Holy poo poo Pujols was good.
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Dec 5, 2017 02:50
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Good Dog posted:Do you all like to imagine alternate timelines where Junior and Pujols remain healthy throughout their entire careers? What players bodies completely fall apart in those timelines? Would have depended on them not selfishly rejecting steroids and creams and Essence of Sperm Whale injections into their corneas like real team players would have taken.
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Dec 5, 2017 02:51
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JoeCL posted:So here's some fun Albert Pujols math. Pujols put up -1.8 WAR this season. The average career WAR of 1st baseman in the hall of fame is about 66. How many more years would Pujols have to play putting up the same WAR as this year for his career WAR to be reduced to that average? The fact that a lineup of peak Pujols, Edmonds and Rolen only won one Series via a bullshit 83-win season is heartbreaking to me sometimes. E: The Ryan Howard and Jimmy Rollins MVP's make me madder though.
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Dec 5, 2017 02:59
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Good Dog posted:Its tricky because of the teams left, half are the NL that don't have the DH as an option so he'd be pinch hitting or playing the field if he is hitting at all. Of the AL teams still talking to him, you've got the Ms, Angels and Rangers. Ms would be willing to move Cruz around to the field on days when Ohtani can DH. Rangers rotated the DH position with Napoli, Beltre and Choo. Angels have an unmovable DH in Pujols so I don't know what they'd do there. He’s more likely to get AB’s in NL games where he literally has to hit twice a game and could come in to pinch hit. He’d be under a lot of pressure to hit really well for him to continue to get ABs in the AL.
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Dec 5, 2017 03:27
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I AL DHs as a whole hit really poorly so giving Ohtani a ton of rope as a DH would make sense for Seattle I think; it would be dumb to kill the experiment just because he didn’t hit well as a DH
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Dec 5, 2017 03:38
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That’s why Otani should come to SF, if he hits poorly he’ll fit right in with our outfield.
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Dec 5, 2017 03:56
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Carlosologist posted:I AL DHs as a whole hit really poorly so giving Ohtani a ton of rope as a DH would make sense for Seattle I think; it would be dumb to kill the experiment just because he didn’t hit well as a DH Seattle had the best DH in the AL last season tho. I mean, I am all for Cruz playing the OF a couple days a week if it means Ohtani is a Mariner, but it's not like he'll be an upgrade at DH there...
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Dec 5, 2017 03:57
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Ammat The Ankh posted:That’s why Otani should come to SF, if he hits poorly he’ll fit right in with our outfield. Somehow Jarrett Parker will usurp both left field and a spot in the rotation from Ohtani
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Dec 5, 2017 04:04
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Athanatos posted:and being (not so?) secretly 65 years old Yeah I remember when he was in his early 20s and looked older than my dad Good Dog posted:He's had offseason surgery like 3 or 4 times as an Angel and basically lives with plantar fasciitis. Normal 30-35 year olds can still run without being in agonizing pain. I thought he had gotten ankle surgery literally every offseason since becoming an Angel Pancakes posted:The fact that a lineup of peak Pujols, Edmonds and Rolen only won one Series via a bullshit 83-win season is heartbreaking to me sometimes. The Astros couldn't get out of the NLDS with the following players in their primes in 1998: Randy Johnson, Mike Hampton, Shane Reynolds, Billy Wagner, Jeff Bagwell, Craig Biggio, Moises Alou, Carl Everett and Derek Bell They even got a .314/.387/.508 season out of Sean loving Berry Life ain't fair Intruder fucked around with this message at 04:31 on Dec 5, 2017 |
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Dec 5, 2017 04:27
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Intruder posted:The Astros couldn't get out of the NLDS with the following players in their primes in 1998: Randy Johnson, Mike Hampton, Shane Reynolds, Billy Wagner, Jeff Bagwell, Craig Biggio, Moises Alou, Carl Everett and Derek Bell That’s because we had Kevin Brown, Tony Gwynn, Trevor Hoffman and a roided to hell Greg Vaughn. And Lolritz in the playoffs. The Astros didn’t choke in 1998. poo poo I was l sitting in right field when the Padres beat Hampton at the Q in that series.
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Dec 5, 2017 04:46
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Intruder posted:Yeah I remember when he was in his early 20s and looked older than my dad He probably has. He's been a question mark if he'd be healthy for spring training or would miss time every year. I remember the Angels having a rotation of Jered Weaver, Zack Greinke, CJ Wilson, Dan Haren, and Ervin Santana and missed the playoffs. Angels are good at getting guys passed their primes or having down years at the most inopportune time.
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Dec 5, 2017 04:46
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Pancakes posted:The fact that a lineup of peak Pujols, Edmonds and Rolen only won one Series via a bullshit 83-win season is heartbreaking to me sometimes.
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Dec 5, 2017 04:47
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Good Dog posted:Its tricky because of the teams left, half are the NL that don't have the DH as an option so he'd be pinch hitting or playing the field if he is hitting at all. Of the AL teams still talking to him, you've got the Ms, Angels and Rangers. Ms would be willing to move Cruz around to the field on days when Ohtani can DH. Rangers rotated the DH position with Napoli, Beltre and Choo. Angels have an unmovable DH in Pujols so I don't know what they'd do there. We declined Nap's option, so he isn't with us anymore, and I 100% expect if we win the Ohtani Lottery we are going to salarydump Choo. I kind of expect it regardless.
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Dec 5, 2017 04:52
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When I'm feeling a glutton for punishment, I daydream about the alternate history where the draft doesn't arbitrarily have one league get the first pick based on the year, the Dodgers weren't run by incompetent buffoons, and the late 90's Dodgers feature prime ARod, Piazza, Pedro, and a young Beltre.
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Dec 5, 2017 04:52
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Also the Rangers signed Mike Minor to a multiyear deal and he is expected to get the chance to start. Good move IMO.
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Dec 5, 2017 04:55
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I don’t even know who of relevance is on the free agent market other than Otani because the Padres never sign anyone.
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Dec 5, 2017 05:08
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Angry Grimace posted:The Astros didn’t choke in 1998. Gonna disagree with you there. Bagwell and Biggio basically did nothing in the playoffs their entire careers
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Dec 5, 2017 05:38
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Intruder posted:Gonna disagree with you there. Bagwell and Biggio basically did nothing in the playoffs their entire careers The ‘98 Padres won 98 games. Give them a modicum of credit 20 years after the fact.
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Dec 5, 2017 05:40
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Randy Johnson went 0-2 in two starts with a 1.93 ERA  The Astros just didn't hit at all despite a high powered offense e: The Astros hit .182/.277/.248 that series against a regular season slash of .280/.356/.436
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Dec 5, 2017 05:42
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Intruder posted:Randy Johnson went 0-2 in two starts with a 1.93 ERA He lost because while he’s one of only a few guys I’ve ever witnessed own Tony Gwynn, Tony got a go ahead double in Astrodome off of him and therefore Gwynn owns him forever like he owned everyone.
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Dec 5, 2017 05:43
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I'd like the Mariners to get Ohtani, then bring back Old Man Ichiro and Dae Ho Lee. Get all of the fun guys of the last decade back.
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Dec 5, 2017 05:46
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I'm glad if the Mariners are going to get Ohtani at least it's past King Felix's prime so they can still continue to miss the playoffs
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Dec 5, 2017 05:47
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The only reason people think the Mariners are getting Otani is because Ichiro played there which probably doesn’t mean anything at all. This dude is motivated by some sort of mystery thing.
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Dec 5, 2017 06:07
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Haha @ December based ball chat. How long until spring training goddamn.
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Dec 5, 2017 07:30
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Der Meister posted:Haha @ December based ball chat. How long until spring training goddamn. Offseason contribution I just finished watching Ken Burns Baseball. It was slightly informative, but mostly old white dudes longing for Mickey Mantle and Ted Williams. It focused too much on New York. There should have been a greater emphasis on baseball elsewhere - I couldn't believe they did not have a segment on Fernando-mania, probably the single most important thing to shaping the modern game (you could argue it was Clemente, but i think the Dodgers being broadcast across Mexico and Latin America with Fernando was more important). Also - I think a full 2 hour segment should have been about the Killer B's. The best part of the 19 (!!!!) hours is the clear seething hatred George Will has for Barry Bonds. I cant wait for the 2020 version which will most certainly be entirely about the 2016 Cubs.
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Dec 5, 2017 07:45
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Angry Grimace posted:This dude is motivated by some sort of mystery thing. Yes, being in an environment in which he is valued and allowed to flourish. I realize this is weird in the setting of professional sports, where labor is still treated as capital akin to factory robots rather than human beings, but the dude just wants to go somewhere where he gets a chance and actually wants to live. That's no more mysterious than anyone else in the world.
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Dec 5, 2017 08:40
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Sab0921 posted:It focused too much on New York. Baseball Writers.txt Like seriously the other day when Ohtani was handing out roses to his shortlisters, ESPN's front page headline was "OHTANI SNUBS YANKEES, RED SOX" and was three pages of  about how Ohtani had blown his chance to live up to Babe Ruth's legacy while failing to mention who actually was still in the running anywhere in the article.
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Dec 5, 2017 08:46
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KIM JONG TRILL posted:Also the Rangers signed Mike Minor to a multiyear deal and he is expected to get the chance to start. Good move IMO.
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Dec 5, 2017 09:52
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drat, was hoping the Astros could snag him, missed that post
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Dec 5, 2017 10:10
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Sab0921 posted:cant wait for the 2020 version which will most certainly be entirely about the 2016 Cubs. Nothing wrong with that! 
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Dec 5, 2017 15:00
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All the poo poo on Pujols's age was treated on this board as casual racism in the days of #TRADER. It's amazing how much it's just accepted now.
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Dec 5, 2017 16:23
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The Cardinals signed some dude from Japan, Mike Mikolas, AKA "The Lizard King". Dope nickname at least. Here's hoping his 2.25 ERA in Japan translates reasonably well back here. 2 years, $15.5m.
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Dec 5, 2017 17:48
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ROCK THE HOUSE M.D. posted:The Cardinals signed some dude from Japan, Mike Mikolas, AKA "The Lizard King". Dope nickname at least. Here's hoping his 2.25 ERA in Japan translates reasonably well back here. 2 years, $15.5m. I hope he does well enough that his nickname gets upgraded to The Jesus Lizard. EDIT: I think it's Miles Mikolas, looks like the Padres drafted him as an SP, turned him into an RP after one year, then the Rangers tried him as an SP again in 2014, he stunk, and he left for the NPB I guess? Inspector_666 fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Dec 5, 2017 |
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Dec 5, 2017 17:52
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Why do the Cardinals get all the cool nicknames First The Final Boss, now The Lizard King
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Yea he had 60 innings for Texas in 2014 and was.... not very good.
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