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Good old England. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and convincing a mediocre Australian side that they are world beaters. (Recent losses to Bangladesh don't count because they were in a scary foreign country to even scarier brown skinned individuals.)
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Dec 6, 2017 05:59
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"Jaws of victory" I'm a ridiculously pessimistic Australian but this might be stretching it a little bit.
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Dec 6, 2017 06:01
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https://twitter.com/Itsangrydad10/status/937998005499596801
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Dec 6, 2017 06:04
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england were fairly well poised at the start of the day. root was looking good and woakes has proven he cant bat plus england bat deep with moeen and bairstow to come.
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Dec 6, 2017 06:04
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BrigadierSensible posted:Good old England. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and convincing a mediocre Australian side that they are world beaters. (Recent losses to Bangladesh don't count because they were in a scary foreign country to even scarier brown skinned individuals.) Steady on we only lost 1 match in Bangladesh. So did England. They are pretty good at home.
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Dec 6, 2017 06:04
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Dec 6, 2017 06:10
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cricinfo posted:Starc to Broad, OUT, outside off, full length, a thin edge, a low catch to the keeper. A valiant but sorry stay from a batsman who is a shadow of his former self um ok
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Dec 6, 2017 06:11
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If Starc can clean up the tail every test that would be good enough. There is certainly value in just finishing off an innings.
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Dec 6, 2017 06:13
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Well at least I didn't get up especially
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Dec 6, 2017 06:18
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Lionel Richie posted:Well at least I didn't get up especially australia squeak through
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Dec 6, 2017 06:18
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Another game that was closer than the end result suggested.
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Dec 6, 2017 06:18
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Seams posted:um ok seriously, if you go into Broad's stats he averages worse every year twelve of his thirteen 50+ scores were 2013 or earlier
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Dec 6, 2017 06:19
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Well played to the Australian quicks who were rightly criticised last night for bowling poo. It seems all three bowled well. England will feel like they could have won if they didn't make so many errors. Steve Smith has been saved from being geek of the week by his quicks on day 5. Now Joe Root will win it for sending us in.
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Dec 6, 2017 06:20
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i get losing quick wickets at night when the ball is hooping around but both teams played incredibly poorly in pretty good batting conditions during the day periods
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Dec 6, 2017 06:22
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England lost really in the first day and half bowling a really dumb length, they were largely the better team after that
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Dec 6, 2017 06:24
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 5-0 is still on boys.
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Dec 6, 2017 06:27
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This is looking dangerously close to the last Australian ashes where England "almost" had a chance to knock us over in every test until they got to Sydney and then they had finally given up. The equivalent to England bowling too short in the first innings was Carberry dropping Haddin in our first innings.
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Dec 6, 2017 06:27
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What I still don't like as an Aussie is the fact that at the presentation Smith was asked if not enforcing the follow on was a mistake and he basically said "Well, we won so who cares? If we lost I'd think about it, but we didn't, no need to reflect on mistakes and improve!" Like, the team will never improve unless they try to learn lessons, even if it doesn't matter in the end and they win. Sometimes I think cricketers might be as dumb as rugby league players, they're like only two molested dogs away from being the same. Both Cummins and Lyon are going to bowl worse than they did in this innings, at some point in this series, but actually take like five wickets each. If you watched the way each Australian bowled, Starc was far and away the worst but somehow he gets the five for. poo poo gets wickets? It would explain Shane Warne. Cricket just doesn't make sense.
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Dec 6, 2017 06:36
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poo poo gets wickets is Brett Lee's entire career
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Dec 6, 2017 06:41
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The WACA is going to be a total road imo, it is the last international test at the venue and they will want to milk every cent out of 5 days worth of cricket. It has been a poo poo wicket for a decade and they aren't going to put in some 3 day 1980's style WACA pitch to see the ground off. The shield matches here have been boring as gently caress
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Dec 6, 2017 06:42
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Burn Down Canberra posted:Captaincy is overrated to a pretty large degree. A captain normally looks good because of his players. that said where a captain can look good is doing things like enforcing the follow on like he should have last night. Depends, for someone like Steve Waugh he just needed to decide which of his all time great bowlers to bring on next, whereas for someone like Stephen Fleming there was a hell of a lot of work to do.
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Dec 6, 2017 06:45
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EMC posted:The WACA is going to be a total road imo, it is the last international test at the venue and they will want to milk every cent out of 5 days worth of cricket. It has been a poo poo wicket for a decade and they aren't going to put in some 3 day 1980's style WACA pitch to see the ground off. The shield matches here have been boring as gently caress Flat pitch suits us unless the weather is extremely unperth like
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Dec 6, 2017 06:46
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It's no sadcook.jpg but it will have to do.
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Dec 6, 2017 07:13
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Stokes scored 34 from 41, then bowled 7 overs 0/39 in another loss for Canterbury.
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Dec 6, 2017 07:36
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V for Vegas posted:It's no sadcook.jpg but it will have to do. That is a pretty disgraceful attempt at facial hair
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Dec 6, 2017 07:47
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:Going to wake up at half six tomorrow morning to highlights of England's collapse I'm drat good at this
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Dec 6, 2017 07:57
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I really don't see how enforcing the follow on could be considered the correct thing to do in the second test of a 5 game series over 7 weeks. Fast bowling is hard on the body, unless there's something on the line, I don't see a sensible reason to push three injury prone quicks to their physical limits - especially when you're already in a good position to win the match.
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Dec 6, 2017 08:32
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Implants posted:I really don't see how enforcing the follow on could be considered the correct thing to do in the second test of a 5 game series over 7 weeks. Fast bowling is hard on the body, unless there's something on the line, I don't see a sensible reason to push three injury prone quicks to their physical limits - especially when you're already in a good position to win the match. Yeah, perfectly sensible decision to me in the context of the series.
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Dec 6, 2017 08:43
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I think the argument would be that Englands strength is swing bowling and the Australian weakness is to a ball full and moving. So by not enforcing the follow on he exposed our weakness to their strength. I wonder how we would have gone if he did the Bradman reverse the batting order thing from 37 I am still 50/50 on the call (I would have been damning it if we lost) it was a tough one. Global rates of enforcing the follow on are extremely low for specific reasons. Pitches don't deteriorate any more or at least they don't deteriorate to the same degree they did 20 years ago, teams bat much deeper (in theory the English tail has been terrible. That said Overton scored a good 40) and probably most importantly of all scheduling has test matches played back to back.
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Dec 6, 2017 08:47
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Burn Down Canberra posted:I think the argument would be that Englands strength is swing bowling and the Australian weakness is to a ball full and moving. So by not enforcing the follow on he exposed our weakness to their strength. If it were the last test, or at least if there weren't 3 more of the bloody things then yeah enforce the follow on. What he did was slightly lessen the odds of winning this test by an insignificant amount in order to rest your notoriously fragile fast bowlers for the next three.
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Dec 6, 2017 08:57
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I mean, did it really damage the chance of a win at all? The lead was already decent for a 4th innings - chances of getting up 300 as a lead was high I think, and chasing down 300 in the 4th innings has only happened like 30 times in all of cricket history. Pretty good call imo.
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Dec 6, 2017 09:07
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Follow on or not there was little chance Australia would lose the test. Not following on definitely made it possible for England to win, despite it being unlikely. If the follow on had been enforced the best result I could see for England would have been a draw.
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Dec 6, 2017 09:12
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Implants posted:I mean, did it really damage the chance of a win at all? The lead was already decent for a 4th innings - chances of getting up 300 as a lead was high I think, and chasing down 300 in the 4th innings has only happened like 30 times in all of cricket history. Pretty good call imo. I agree. I also doubt Smith thought they'd bat as badly as they did. I get that it was loving hard batting in the night session but they had no excuse to collapse the way they did the next day and I don't think Smith would've been considering that when he made the decision. Add an extra 50 or so runs to their second innings score and you're probably looking at a total they should have been able to achieve, which would've set England 400 or so to win.
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Dec 6, 2017 09:24
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Mitch Marsh has been added to the squad for Perth. Australia are unstoppable now.
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Dec 6, 2017 09:42
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Scylo posted:Mitch Marsh has been added to the squad for Perth. Australia are unstoppable now. The Human Victory Cigar has been deployed  Oh the humiliation
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Dec 6, 2017 09:45
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Scylo posted:Mitch Marsh has been added to the squad for Perth. Australia are unstoppable now. Somewhere, in a musty attic, a monkey's paw closes another finger.
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Dec 6, 2017 09:56
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Cementing the Marsh brothers in the Australian lineup for years to come with a dominant Australian Ashes win, the ultimate English moral victory
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Dec 6, 2017 10:12
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Sri Lanka need to bat out 21 overs, 5 wickets left.
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Dec 6, 2017 10:23
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I think I would have preferred Burns in for Handscomb if they wanted to go for a guy who has failed at test level. He is in fantastic shield form. Maxwell should feel a bit robbed as well. But Marsh statistically one of the worst number 6 batsmen of all time into an already shaky batting line up. That is a worry.
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Dec 6, 2017 10:25
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what does another lovely batsman who bowls seam going to add to a squad which already has 3 good paceman and a weak batting lineup? at the very least maxwell adds another spin option if all three quicks are tired.
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Dec 6, 2017 10:39
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