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It may be here: https://twitter.com/Feinsand/status/938589909119635457
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plot thickens. https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/938592436816941056
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Dec 7, 2017 03:24
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Why though? I don't think Ohtani cares that much about money since he's giving up a ton coming to the US now, and half the teams on his shortlist can only offer ~$300,000
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Dec 7, 2017 03:25
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Teams should have to actually hand over that money and not just the "allocation" that their team possesses, and uhhh that has nothing to do with the Rangers being the team with the most IFA bonus pool right now.
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Dec 7, 2017 03:28
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ROCK THE HOUSE M.D. posted:plot thickens. Poor sad Twins front office.
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Dec 7, 2017 03:34
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So it comes down to which team Ohtani would like to not win the AL West with next season.
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Dec 7, 2017 04:06
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Hey did you ever finish that Tebow musical piece
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Dec 7, 2017 04:18
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Poque posted:Sounds like he's in the Best Shape Of His Life. Steroids'll do that for you. Or so I'm told, I'm sure Raffy doesn't know anything about it.
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Dec 7, 2017 04:27
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Ammat The Ankh posted:Why though? I don't think Ohtani cares that much about money since he's giving up a ton coming to the US now, and half the teams on his shortlist can only offer ~$300,000 It could be that, after having met with Ohtani, teams got the sense some extra money to offer would be beneficial in swaying him, although that'd be contrary to everything we've heard up to this point. It could also be that they're just doing everything they can to get Ohtani, up to and including picking up some extra bonus money just in case. Maybe it's completely unrelated to Ohtani and they want to sign some of the recently released Angels prospects. I'm inclined to think it's the second one and that if Ohtani had signaled during his meetings that he was looking for more money than the Cubs/Giants/Dodgers could offer, we'd have heard about it by now. Sydin fucked around with this message at 04:36 on Dec 7, 2017 |
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Dec 7, 2017 04:33
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Sydin posted:It could be that, after having met with Ohtani, teams got the sense some extra money to offer would be beneficial in swaying him, although that'd be contrary to everything we've heard up to this point. It could also be that they're just doing everything they can to get Ohtani, up to and including picking up some extra bonus money just in case. Maybe it's completely unrelated to Ohtani and they want to sign some of the recently released Angels prospects. Perhaps seeing teams making the effort to acquire extra bonus money is the confirmation for the first scenario?
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Dec 7, 2017 04:39
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Is he trying to reset the clock on his HoF eligibility?
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Dec 7, 2017 04:47
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SourKraut posted:Perhaps seeing teams making the effort to acquire extra bonus money is the confirmation for the first scenario? Maybe? I expected it in the form of "SOURCE: OHTANI WANTS MONEY AFTER ALL SAYS GM" tweets, but you're right. But it could also be the reverse in that the Angels and Mariners came out of their meetings feeling like they were behind the curve and scrambled for extra pool money as a last ditch effort to stay in the conversation. Or they figure that even if money isn't Ohtani's highest priority the gesture of going out and trading for more money to give him would be appreciated. I'm just disinclined to believe the race is down to who can put the most bonus pool money forward when four of the seven contestants are hard capped at $300k.
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Dec 7, 2017 04:48
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Don’t read too much into it. All four NL teams are capped because they went over their bonus pools last year. The Rangers have more money than everyone else by well over a million. The only two other teams left are the ones making those trades presumably because the Twins called them up and said they were moving their remaining funds. Twins are laughing all the way to the bank.
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Dec 7, 2017 05:13
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Saw this posted about seasons since the Astros came into the leaguequote:*Random 2017 Astros Fact: Nevermind the numbers that follow: that's a very unfortunate number of total seasons. But I guess appropriate for current America
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Dec 7, 2017 05:19
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There are other foreign prospects besides Ohtani to spend money on. And teams can only spend like $5 million on them. Even though a first round pick from the US gets a bigger bonus than that all by himself. Which seems fair
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Dec 7, 2017 05:25
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The Pussy Boss posted:There are other foreign prospects besides Ohtani to spend money on. And teams can only spend like $5 million on them. Even though a first round pick from the US gets a bigger bonus than that all by himself. Which seems fair I mean you won’t be sad having the bonus money and the Twins are making out like bandits.
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Dec 7, 2017 05:35
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Angry Grimace posted:I mean you won’t be sad having the bonus money and the Twins are making out like bandits. God I can't imagine something clever happening in the Smith/Ryan days. Thank sweet baseball Jesus.
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Dec 7, 2017 05:41
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KIM JONG TRILL posted:Teams should have to actually hand over that money and not just the "allocation" that their team possesses, and uhhh that has nothing to do with the Rangers being the team with the most IFA bonus pool right now. I'm pretty sure it is actual money, it can just only be spent on IFA stuff for that year.
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Dec 7, 2017 06:52
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Looking forward to the Giants getting neither Otani or Stanton and still winning the World Series.
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Dec 7, 2017 06:56
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mlbtraderumors.com posted:Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic writes (subscription required & recommended) that there are those in the game who wonder if Ohtani’s decision has already been made. The expedited manner in which Ohtani eliminated 23 teams and then met with seven finalists has been a point of frustration for some clubs, Rosenthal writes, noting that execs from some East coast teams have privately wondered why they were asked to put so much time into their presentations for Ohtani when he ultimately eliminated the East coast in one swoop.  Welcome to the life of other 99% "Hey boss how did you like that presentation I spent all weekend on?" "oh, I never read it. Could you just summarize it for me?" ScottyJSno fucked around with this message at 07:27 on Dec 7, 2017 |
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Dec 7, 2017 07:23
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It's always a blessing when the east coast is forced to reckon with the fact that not everybody wants to suck its dick
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Dec 7, 2017 07:26
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Rand alPaul posted:Looking forward to the Giants getting neither Otani or Stanton and still winning the World Series. I can accept this reality
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Dec 7, 2017 07:32
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ScottyJSno posted:
Let's also just ignore the fact that the Rangers and Cubs both showed that if you'd put together an exceptionally strong pitch Ohtani was willing to listen. I don't know if the Yankees FO is capable of understanding that maybe a player wasn't wowed by their team simply by virtue of it being the Yankees, though.
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Dec 7, 2017 07:38
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I'm going to give Ohtani the benefit of the doubt and assume that no matter what the presentation he would have come to the correct conclusion "gently caress the Yankees."
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Comptroll The Forums posted:I'm going to give Ohtani the benefit of the doubt and assume that no matter what the presentation he would have come to the correct conclusion "gently caress the Yankees." Maybe that's what all the so-far succeeding presentations have been, and the teams that have continued on simply came up with the best ways to do it!
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Dec 7, 2017 15:11
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How in the world did Boston get eliminated so quickly then?
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Dec 7, 2017 15:55
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Meydey posted:I want to see a playoff game where he is DH'ing on an off day, but then is switched in to pitch the 9th. It happened in the Pacific League Climax Series final in 2016. Nippon-Ham held a 7-4 lead going into the 9th, up 3-2 in the series, so they put Ohtani on the mound to close it out. (They would go on to win the Nippon Series that year. Ohtani was also named Best Nine as pitcher and DH, marking the first time in history the Pacific League Best Nine actually consisted of nine players) http://npb.jp/scores/2016/1016/f-h-05/box.html 
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Dexo posted:How in the world did Boston get eliminated so quickly then? Because gently caress the red sox
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Paul Zuvella posted:Because gently caress the red sox 
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Goodpancakes posted:Is he trying to reset the clock on his HoF eligibility? Maybe? If he is, it's ill-thought out, which is classic Palmeiro. He fell off the writer's ballot in 2014, and my understanding is once you drop of the ballot you aren't reconsidered. The Veteran's Committee is a different matter entirely. rickiep00h posted:God I can't imagine something clever happening in the Smith/Ryan days. It feels weird to have faith in this front office again.
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Dec 7, 2017 16:30
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thats gold glove winner rafael palmiero to you
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My favorite part of the Palmiero comeback story is how his two kids play professional ball and he's like "Nah gently caress them I'm still better then both of 'em."
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Dec 7, 2017 16:33
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Apparently some guy on reddit bought a former milb catcher's gear bag and it still had the signs for the Rangers in it
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IcePhoenix posted:Apparently some guy on reddit bought a former milb catcher's gear bag and it still had the signs for the Rangers in it Spring Training signs. I’d wager that they just use the same signs for all of spring training to make it easy for everyone, especially with as many people playing as there is over the course of it.
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IcePhoenix posted:Apparently some guy on reddit bought a former milb catcher's gear bag and it still had the signs for the Rangers in it Love to make my sign cheat sheet in excel (poorly).
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I can barely remember the handful of signs in rec ball, being a catcher would suck.
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KIM JONG TRILL posted:Spring Training signs. I’d wager that they just use the same signs for all of spring training to make it easy for everyone, especially with as many people playing as there is over the course of it. That actually makes sense. I always thought that I'd be a poor MLB or NFL player even if I was a solid athlete, because of all the poo poo I'd have to remember. I have a learning disability that makes detailed instructions difficult to absorb, I'd probably have assholes start referring to me as uncoachable and such.
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Poque posted:It's always a blessing when the east coast is forced to reckon with the fact that not everybody wants to suck its dick The owners are literally mad that they had to do a presentation to sign a $200,000,000 player for league minimum (a system that owners coincidentally voted to implement)
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Popete posted:I can barely remember the handful of signs in rec ball, being a catcher would suck. In my amateur league I was asked to be 3rd base coach which meant I had to do signs. I was like "this is easy" but I realized that it's actually quite hard to not do the same thing over and over again.
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seiferguy posted:In my amateur league I was asked to be 3rd base coach which meant I had to do signs. I was like "this is easy" but I realized that it's actually quite hard to not do the same thing over and over again. Yep, on our team it's usually last guy out from last inning coaches 1st or 3rd. 1st is pretty easy, just gotta yell "back!" for a pick off and keep the runner aware of the situation. I always try to avoid coaching 3rd cause I hate having to make up signs and I'm overly conscious of trying to avoid accidentally giving a real sign. One time I was coaching 3rd and the guy at the plate tried to bunt for a base hit 3 times in a row. I wasn't giving him the bunt sign but I'm sure the other team thought I was an idiot who desperately wanted this guy to bunt.
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