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MtG has a surprising amount of cards that pertain to the concept of salt:    Same: 
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I think locking a ton of expansion content behind bright engrams and the shader drop rate for the good ones are still things worth getting upset about. Especially since it seems the expansion is still light on content. I think battlefront 2 obliterated any remaining goodwill to these kinds of things.
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Dec 7, 2017 18:18
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I think the concept of randomized rewards is kind of lovely in general but pretending like that's Bungie's fault and not the result of idiot nerds having gambling problems for decades is probably a bit spurious
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Dec 7, 2017 18:22
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Yeah can't really blame the abuser when the victims are just asking for it.
Shy fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Dec 7, 2017 |
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Dec 7, 2017 18:33
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Bleck posted:I think the concept of randomized rewards is kind of lovely in general but pretending like that's Bungie's fault and not the result of idiot nerds having gambling problems for decades is probably a bit spurious Yeah I mean people on DTG are unironically calling the game terrible for not having completely random gun perks that results in major balance issues and requires shitloads of grinding. All they did was shift the grind from gameplay items to cosmetics.
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Dec 7, 2017 18:34
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Norns posted:It would probably help a lot of things if every article written about everything ever wasn't just some shocking thing to get people upset Yeah that's very annoying. Writer: "Hey, I have this great article on how Destiny 2 is an enjoyable experience. It's mostly positive, though admittedly a little dry." Money Man: "Nah, take everything you wrote and flip it so the article is extremely negative and divisive. We need to drive clicks and views. Tell them the game WOULD be good IF NOT FOR, then fill in the blank with something Reddit seems angry about." Reddit: "DESTINY loving SUCKS LOOK AT THESE ARTICLES ON WHY IT BLOWS DICKBUTTS!"
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Dec 7, 2017 18:42
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Bust Rodd posted:I’ve been playing Warframe while I wait for Destiny 2 missions to load and this game is not perfect but I have never seen a F2P game as rich and feature deep as Warframe, and there are like 40K people playing Warframe every night on Steam (Total Dev Team is less than 200 people over 4 years, making it comparable in scale to D2 in time spent developing but at 1/4 the manpower) I was looking forward to Iron Banner since I thought all the outfits looked great and green is my favorite color, but after trying Rainbow Six in the steam sale I just stopped playing d2's pvp entirely with zero regrets and missed out on the event entirely. Being able to actually carry games and make a difference instead of playing hallway skeet shooting with your team was way way way more fun than D2's pvp. All my friends who were playing D2 made the jump to R6S as well and we've just been pvping in that instead. There's so many good FPS games out there that there's little desire for me to stick around and actually play D2 when it's busted to poo poo, but the base gameplay and look and setting are all cool enough for me to watch intently and see if Bungie's willing to fix it. There's a LOT of relatively minor things they could fix, and just fixing a few of them would go a long way towards making me wanna play again. A collection and inventory size increase so I can actually hold any item post season 1, for example. The baffling part is how slow or unwilling Bungie seems to be to fix anything. How do they have a staff three times bigger than CDPR while delivering a fraction as much content? 750's gotta be on par with Blizzard, but Blizzard maintains and updates five or six games, for fucks sake. Minera fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Dec 7, 2017 |
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Dec 7, 2017 18:43
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Fighting Lion might actually be decent for the right content now.
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Dec 7, 2017 18:45
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Minrad posted:The baffling part is how slow or unwilling Bungie seems to be to fix anything. How do they have a staff three times bigger than CDPR while delivering a fraction as much content? The staff is directed by manager-types, who are almost certainly dumbass rich folks who were handed their jobs via nepotism.
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Dec 7, 2017 18:49
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Shy posted:Yeah can't really blame the abuser when the victims are just asking for it. Oh hell yeah, thats the good stuff right here
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Dec 7, 2017 18:52
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Hahahaha. Doom 2016 itt
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Dec 7, 2017 18:53
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It kinda baffles me that Bungie doesn't make a pass through the exotics (and the legendary weapons for that matter) to buff the ones that are clearly underpowered and underused. I'm sure they log which are the most/least used exotics/legendaries, but they leave in place a status quo where there are like a handful of useful exotics that everyone uses. My guess is that they are afraid to touch things because of pvp balance. Sorta related - I wish they'd just add a "banned" category of gear that you can't take into pvp so they can do wackier stuff for pve. They tweaked a handful of things with the expansion, but I feel like the vast majority of gear is still kinda useless.
Lucid Dream fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Dec 7, 2017 |
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Dec 7, 2017 18:55
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Lucid Dream posted:It kinda baffles me that Bungie doesn't make a pass through the exotics (and the legendary weapons for that matter) to buff the ones that are clearly underpowered and underused. I'm sure they log which are the most/least used exotics/legendaries, but they leave in place a status quo where there are like a handful of useful exotics that everyone uses. My guess is that they are afraid to touch things because of pvp balance. Sorta related - I wish they'd just add a "banned" category of gear that you can't take into pvp so they can do wackier stuff for pve. That happened on December 5th, which is why we are discussing the viability of Fighting Lion now, where previously it was not liked: quote:
I'm excited about the ACD/0 and the Mask of the Quiet One changes. Waffle House fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Dec 7, 2017 |
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Dec 7, 2017 19:01
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Waffle House posted:That happened on December 5th, which is why we are discussing the viability of Fighting Lion now, where previously it was not liked: Yeah, they fiddled with some of them, but I still feel like there is a ton of content that is still just not worth using compared to the alternatives. I find it really lame to do those weapon cube quests in the expansion and end up with, say, a scout rifle that is clearly nowhere near as good as nameless/mida. Edit: The issue seems to be most noticeable in the kinetic slot. I have a really hard time finding anything that is in the same ballpark as nameless/origin story/better devils for pve. The specific perks those weapons have are just so good. Lucid Dream fucked around with this message at 19:11 on Dec 7, 2017 |
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Dec 7, 2017 19:06
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Lucid Dream posted:Yeah, they fiddled with some of them, but I still feel like there is a ton of content that is still just not worth using compared to the alternatives. I find it really lame to do those weapon cube quests in the expansion and end up with, say, a scout rifle that is clearly nowhere near as good as nameless/mida. To me, your feeling is probably public-derived; people don’t pay much attention to most guns outside what the internet/meta tells them to. They’re not necessarily wrong, they’re just committing to being predictable. I am all about this guy, because Dynamic Sway Reduction is a great perk. Instead of your bullet grouping getting looser as you hold the trigger, it TIGHTENS UP. This is great for engagements at range, and also hilarious on SMGs: https://db.destinytracker.com/d2/en/items/1327432221-perseverance Edit: Yes explosive rounds is basically never not good, on any gun, and I’m glad people discovered that, this is important to remember as the game develops. I used to have a Badger CCL in D1 (max impact scout) with explosive rounds; it 1shot trash mobs, and was heinously good.
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Dec 7, 2017 19:11
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Waffle House posted:That happened on December 5th, which is why we are discussing the viability of Fighting Lion now, where previously it was not liked: Don't forget that the nerf to Precision ARs means that you have to do 9 crits for fastest TTK instead of 7 crits 2 body shots. Apparently this might push the ideal Resilience in PvP to 7 now?
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Dec 7, 2017 19:12
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Waffle House posted:To me, your feeling is probably public-derived; people don’t pay much attention to most guns outside what the internet/meta tells them to. They’re not necessarily wrong, they’re just committing to being predictable. You're probably right considering I mostly ignore weapons with lower than a 4 or so rating on DIM. I probably need to branch out more and try stuff that is outside of the "meta". Waffle House posted:Edit: Yes explosive rounds is basically never not good, on any gun, and I’m glad people discovered that, this is important to remember as the game develops. I used to have a Badger CCL in D1 (max impact scout) with explosive rounds; it 1shot trash mobs, and was heinously good. Yeah, this is the thing that got me to make the post really. I got that fancy new 3 shot burst hand cannon, and while it is pretty darn good, it doesn't kill stuff nearly as fast as my better devils so it feels like a complete waste even if it wasn't taking up my exotic weapon choice. Lucid Dream fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Dec 7, 2017 |
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Dec 7, 2017 19:13
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Lucid Dream posted:You're probably right considering I mostly ignore weapons with lower than a 4 or so rating on DIM. I probably need to branch out more and try stuff that is outside of the "meta". Not every gun is good....but not every player carefully reads perks that might nicely suit their playstyle, or be something that they can work in if they think about it. Better Devils is just straight crispy and it will be a sad day of poured out 40s when they nerf it. I feel like Bungie tries to “train” its playerbase with the meta. For Positive Outlook, the new Vanguard AR with Armor Piercing Rounds, they mashed up everyone’s two favorite Auto Rifles from vanilla: Origin Story and Uriel’s Gift. “Oh, yeah, you guys remenber HCR from D1? Yeahhh, remember those? Check out this sweeeet 450rpm chunky AR that melts stuff. Alright, now that you guys DEFINITELY remember that, here’s their beefy friend, APR. Both are crispy, but can you feel/see the difference?” Hard examination of a weapon’s veracity STRICTLY in terms of TTK is kind of fallacious because no combat scenario you engage in will exist in that vacuum of pure numbers. Like, as bad as an opposing player may be, nobody is going to stand still to give you that “ideal” TTK case. Someone or something WILL be shooting back at you, dropping your shields, maybe even with those flinch-causing High Caliber Rounds, which causes YOU to miss a shot, thus reducing your TTK, and by the time you’ve completed this thought you’re dead because the other guy landed all his. Waffle House fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Dec 7, 2017 |
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Dec 7, 2017 19:25
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Lucid Dream posted:You're probably right considering I mostly ignore weapons with lower than a 4 or so rating on DIM. I probably need to branch out more and try stuff that is outside of the "meta". Unless you're strictly playing nothing but prestige mode things or pvp it's definitely fun to branch out of the "meta." There's a ton of guns I like for aesthetic/feel reasons that aren't "good" but are still fun as heck and who even cares about meta when you're patrolling and doing adventures and poo poo.
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Dec 7, 2017 19:33
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To be honest you can pick any 140rpm Kinetic Handcannon aside from Better Devils and do just as good if not better if you happen to click better with whatever perks it has. Better Devils happens to be the meta because it has really easy sights, minimal kick (Sunshot doesn't really recoil and throw off your aim when you fire it but good lord the whole loving gun flies into your face and makes it harder to do follow up shots) and explosive rounds let you tickle near dead people behind cover and distract opponents with the flash when hitting them. I was playing Trials with a dude whose computer would just eat poo poo and drop FPS when hit by BDs so that's a pretty big advantage though.
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Dec 7, 2017 19:34
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Eej posted:To be honest you can pick any 140rpm Kinetic Handcannon aside from Better Devils and do just as good if not better if you happen to click better with whatever perks it has. Better Devils happens to be the meta because it has really easy sights, minimal kick (Sunshot doesn't really recoil and throw off your aim when you fire it but good lord the whole loving gun flies into your face and makes it harder to do follow up shots) and explosive rounds let you tickle near dead people behind cover and distract opponents with the flash when hitting them. I was playing Trials with a dude whose computer would just eat poo poo and drop FPS when hit by BDs so that's a pretty big advantage though. This is why I like True Prophecy, the FWC hand cannon; it’s Better Devils, just delayed a little. Wish its Needler-perk explosion radius was a little bigger so I could skill in double kills on low health jerks. That thing about graphically bogging down sucks and should be addressed imo, although I’d be interested to see if there’s a graphics settings threshhold where that’s mitigated. FPS drop is deeeefinitely something that’ll gently caress up people’s TTK.
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Dec 7, 2017 19:40
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the single most important thing about better devils is that the explosion from the explosive rounds doesn't have falloff damage
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Dec 7, 2017 19:41
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Waffle House posted:That happened on December 5th, which is why we are discussing the viability of Fighting Lion now, where previously it was not liked: Surprise, ACD/0 still does no damage.
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Dec 7, 2017 19:42
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Cowcaster posted:the single most important thing about better devils is that the explosion from the explosive rounds doesn't have falloff damage This is very true but at the same time in PvP relying on that aspect of explosive rounds also means that you're gonna get hosed up by scouts and pulses.
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Dec 7, 2017 19:51
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Waffle House posted:Hahahaha. Doom 2016 itt noice. now to get me one of them
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Dec 7, 2017 20:04
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Ah great now the reddit narrative is that bright engrams are destroying destiny despite being cosmetic and better earned through actually playing anyways
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Dec 7, 2017 20:21
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Welp I now have not only the best looking ghost shell but the best mods: That would be all planets chest out to 50 meters and gun telemetry data for all elemental types 
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Dec 7, 2017 20:27
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Monowhatever posted:Welp I now have not only the best looking ghost shell but the best mods: Aww man that is sick. I just got the really fat ghost. 
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Dec 7, 2017 20:30
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Monowhatever posted:Welp I now have not only the best looking ghost shell but the best mods: This looks like the image hidden in the Destiny 2 reveal invites, a little. Star maps seem a theme for Bungo
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Dec 7, 2017 20:36
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Monowhatever posted:Welp I now have not only the best looking ghost shell but the best mods: I really like the bonus for fast lane ghost - says it makes sparrow summon faster but basically feels instant, even on sparrows with no summon speed bonus.
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Dec 7, 2017 20:43
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in all fairness, the bonuses for the exotic ghosts are very good qol features and are about as close to p2w as destiny has gotten.
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Dec 7, 2017 21:07
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CONTENT https://giant.gfycat.com/OrnateObeseChinchilla.webm The pre-patch comparison can be found here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbxJCcqQvXU
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Dec 7, 2017 21:22
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I swear this game still has some sort of performance bug involving over polling other players. I can stay a solid 60 FPS as long as I stay away from public events. As soon as I hit a public event, I drop to 50 FPS, even after the event. Going back to the tower seems to reset the issue. I don't have this problem in any other multi-character events, like strikes or crucible. Just public events seem to trigger it. EDIT: ^^^^ That recovery thing is very helpful, I was wondering how the values had changed. My 5 recovery hunter seems a lot less squishy now.
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Dec 7, 2017 21:24
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khy posted:CONTENT i mean regardless of the information it conveys that's kind of a neat gif
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Dec 7, 2017 21:25
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Cowcaster posted:i mean regardless of the information it conveys that's kind of a neat gif Well, yes. It's enjoyable to watch AND informative for people who want to know exactly what the difference between 3 and 7 recovery is. Pause it at 14 seconds and it'll show once Recovery 10 hits full health, where the other recoveries sit. Super helpful.
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Dec 7, 2017 21:26
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Crimson, the new exotic kinetic handcannon, runs out of ammo too easily. It has the same ammo reserve as a typical handcannon, but the three-round burst isn't more powerful then the normal one shot. So essentially the same total damage output but a third of the rounds to do it with... If it weren't for that, it could be really strong and fun if you forget that it feels like any boring pulse rifle. The sight combined with how the gun recoils is hot garbage though.
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Dec 7, 2017 21:32
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khy posted:Well, yes. It's enjoyable to watch AND informative for people who want to know exactly what the difference between 3 and 7 recovery is. Yup, it looks like having 5-6 recovery is a waste. Either sit go ham and get 7+ or sit at 4 and invest in the other stats.
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Dec 7, 2017 21:34
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treizebee posted:Crimson, the new exotic kinetic handcannon, runs out of ammo too easily. It has the same ammo reserve as a typical handcannon, but the three-round burst isn't more powerful then the normal one shot. So essentially the same total damage output but a third of the rounds to do it with... haha what's the point of making a handcannon with a 3 shot burst if you're going to make them average out to a single shot anyway, just make the gun shoot one shot
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Dec 7, 2017 21:35
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Monowhatever posted:Welp I now have not only the best looking ghost shell but the best mods:
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scuz posted:I haven't been able to figure out what gun telemetry even does and whether it's worth the perk. Gun telemetry basically sometimes gives you extra gunsmith parts to turn into Banshee.
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