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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Yeah there's no way Orville is as big as the Enterprise-E. If they ever release the models, let me know. I probably couldn't afford them or find a place to put them but I would want to dream about getting them anyway. Someday. Edit: I hope when they do introduce the Q-like being he actually is played by John De Lancie but they just call him something else, like what they've been doing in his latest appearances. evilmiera fucked around with this message at 08:59 on Dec 11, 2017 |
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evilmiera posted:If they ever release the models, let me know. I probably couldn't afford them or find a place to put them but I would want to dream about getting them anyway. Someday. "R"
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Dec 11, 2017 09:10
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I think the Bond movies already did that joke.
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Dec 11, 2017 09:21
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evilmiera posted:If they ever release the models, let me know. I probably couldn't afford them or find a place to put them but I would want to dream about getting them anyway. Someday. Nah get Sir Patrick.
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Dec 11, 2017 10:30
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sirpatstew playing a q would be amazing. As long as he's already seen everything.
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Dec 11, 2017 15:04
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Dietrich posted:sirpatstew playing a q would be amazing. Him playing him as Avery Bullock would be better
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Dec 11, 2017 16:47
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Baronjutter posted:Orville is a lot bigger than I thought. Thought it was more Voyager sized, specially just the vibe I get from the size of the crew. God the Enterprise E sucks. Just look at that dumb thing.
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Dec 11, 2017 17:27
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TheScott2K posted:God the Enterprise E sucks. Just look at that dumb thing. It's ready to hit that 2D universe out of the box!
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Dec 11, 2017 17:29
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She looked loving fantastic in First Contact, dammit.
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Dec 11, 2017 17:29
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It makes me sad that ST starship design seemed to become embarrassed of the saucer. I love the saucer! Make it saucerer!
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Dec 11, 2017 17:36
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Q_res posted:She looked loving fantastic in First Contact, dammit. No she didn't, and it was dumb as hell that they had to destroy D in Generations. That really pissed me off because there was no reason for it.
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Dec 11, 2017 17:37
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Cue someone posting that picture of the Galaxy class 1701-E... And yes the E did look good with almost bleach white hull. And they shot a lot more from lower angles which helps the design a ton. Look at the flyby of the Defiant. Probably the best shot of the E in its entire existence, sure. But I think it's fair to say the more metallic finish and insistence on shooting it from above really did the E no favors. Shooting from above (or straight on from the side) really highlights the lack of "verticality" in the design. But the D had lousy angles too. I remember a shot from behind in Generations that made it look straight up like a pregnant hippopotamus.
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Dec 11, 2017 17:48
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The E is "fine" and "ok" not terrible, but I do wish it had more neck. Chalk it up to wartime designs being more like daggers and less like spoons
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Dec 11, 2017 17:50
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The E looked sleeker than the D. I like pointy saucers, they made ships look sleeker and more formidable, conveying a sense of technological progress from the D era. Defiant is still the best ship though.
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Dec 11, 2017 18:17
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Are the upper and lower bands of the Orville's engine stabilizers? I'd like to think it would careen wildly out of control with only the middle one running.
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Dec 11, 2017 18:32
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The Lord Bude posted:The E looked sleeker than the D. I like pointy saucers, they made ships look sleeker and more formidable, conveying a sense of technological progress from the D era. Defiant is still the best ship though. Truth. I still have old unpainted models of the Enterprise E and the Defiant hanging around somewhere from back when I did that kind of thing. Maybe I'll spraypaint them gold and put them on my desk or something.
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Dec 11, 2017 19:00
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There Bias Two posted:Are the upper and lower bands of the Orville's engine stabilizers? I'd like to think it would careen wildly out of control with only the middle one running. Well, actually there are three because  But actually because it looks cool.
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Dec 11, 2017 19:02
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There Bias Two posted:Are the upper and lower bands of the Orville's engine stabilizers? I'd like to think it would careen wildly out of control with only the middle one running. Their shuttlecraft only have one band, so..?
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Binary Badger posted:Their shuttlecraft only have one band, so..? so... they crash land a lot.
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Dec 11, 2017 19:05
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Here's a hot take, all Star Trek ships are boring as gently caress and ship chat is the most boringest type of chat.
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WampaLord posted:Here's a hot take, all Star Trek ships are boring as gently caress and ship chat is the most boringest type of chat. Chat about something else then JEEZ edit: oops, Orville thread. Was the cactus Bortus ate alive and what are the implications of being able to replicate living organisms?
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Dec 11, 2017 19:11
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Disagreed on all points!
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Dec 11, 2017 19:11
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I liked trek ships when they had some rules they had to follow, like nacelles being able to see each other. Even if your physics are pure fantasy, having some sort of consistent fantasy science to help dictate consistent designs makes for a much better universe. We see this a little bit in the Orville so far, although it's unknown if it's just for looks or there's a reason Union ships and shuttles all follow the same form.
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Dec 11, 2017 19:14
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WampaLord posted:Here's a hot take, all Star Trek ships are boring as gently caress and ship chat is the most boringest type of chat. Welcome to hiatus, motherfucker, only 9 months left 
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The Bloop posted:Was the cactus Bortus ate alive and what are the implications of being able to replicate living organisms? Weren't the Star Trek replicators capable of creating vegetables too, aka plant life? Maybe when they say "It can't replicate living organisms" they mean sentient ones. TheScott2K posted:Welcome to hiatus, motherfucker, only 9 months left To be fair, most off topic chat is totally fine but everytime I see "Oh, well I like the E because it has blah blah blah nacells" my eyes just go glassy.
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Dec 11, 2017 19:21
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They can replicate cacti because cacti don't have souls, duh
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WampaLord posted:Weren't the Star Trek replicators capable of creating vegetables too, aka plant life? You can replicate a "dead" apple and still eat it just fine. I don't think they could replicate plants or any other multicelluar thing that was still alive.
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cheetah7071 posted:They can replicate cacti because cacti don't have souls, duh This is why you never see anyone replicating bowls of petunias
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Dec 11, 2017 19:37
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Discovery did have a space whale, though.
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WampaLord posted:Here's a hot take, all Star Trek ships are boring as gently caress and ship chat is the most boringest type of chat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjUQ4RtmLiU 
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There Bias Two posted:Are the upper and lower bands of the Orville's engine stabilizers? I'd like to think it would careen wildly out of control with only the middle one running. Or the middle and bottom blow out and they're stuck doing loops until someone can fix the other two.
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Cingulate posted:dumb videos of dumb star trek ships I don't watch Star Trek to watch spaceships, I watch it to watch people talking to other people (sometimes while wearing alien makeup.) I watch Star Wars for cool spaceships doing cool poo poo in space, Star Trek is a totally different beast. Cool Star Wars moments happen in space, cool Star Trek moments happen in a conference room or on the bridge.
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Dec 11, 2017 20:08
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If I had the technical know-how, I'd just make YouTube videos of space ships I made up
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WampaLord posted:I don't watch Star Trek to watch spaceships WampaLord posted:I watch Star Wars
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The Bloop posted:That doesn't mean the ships can't be cool. Sure, and if you think the Star Trek ships are cool, more power to you, but my mind doesn't even read them in that context. 99% of the time we see them it's in a boring establishing shot. I'm far more interested in what's going on inside the ships. Cingulate posted:That's it, you're not invited to my birthday party. I'm telling Mom!
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its cool when poo poo goes down and the saucer disconnects from the nacelles like a giant life raft
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WampaLord posted:I don't watch Star Trek to watch spaceships, I watch it to watch people talking to other people (sometimes while wearing alien makeup.) This is the correct way of watching both franchises. The worst is when this is forgotten by the show runners and we get the SW Prequels(boring talking + boring fighting) and the TNG movies(Patrick Stewart as action hero). Make ST smart + interesting and SW dumb and explody. Edit: This is another reason ST:D sucks.
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It's really good that people recognize the best parts of Trek are the bits with people quoting Shakespeare or something at each other over Skype because for real, that poo poo owns That said classic, thoughtful starship design is also one of the reasons why Star Trek was cool and why all the modern video-gamey bullshit they came up with starting in the mid 90's looks increasingly lovely as time passes e: The E-E looked great in First Contact because a) It was the final "hero" starship to get a full sized filming miniature and most of the shots of the ship in the film were made using that and b) it was painted up with the same pearlecent/white aztec hull plating as the TMP refit Tighclops fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Dec 11, 2017 |
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The Warship Enterprise seemed cool as hell when I was 12 and seeing First Contact for the first time but boy has it aged poorly. Really feels like the beginning of them missing the point.
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