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After feeling smug about avoiding the upgrade trap on Ninian I upgraded Light Breath instead of Lightning Breath on Fae
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I wanted to five star a Subaki to give Selena QR3, but then I realized that I'm out of Subakis. Don't think I've pulled one in the last month or so, so that could take a while longer. However I did pull a +SPD Athena a while ago and on a whim I decided to do this: Actually Fury might have been good for her too since her DEF/RES is pretty decent, but too late for that. Not sure if I want to put more feathers into her. I do have a lot of Athenas for potential merges, but I also want to make a really buff Selena, and once I pull more Felicias I want to finish getting her to +10.
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Dec 13, 2017 12:24
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cheetah7071 posted:For whatever reason in 708-718 arena by far the majority of DCs I see are on lances
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Dec 13, 2017 12:42
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Washout posted:is there any other way to get DC other than 5 star hector? Seems like a hard skill to track down. Some units have unique weapons with DC (and dragons can do it with lightning breath) but otherwise no.
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Dec 13, 2017 12:47
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So are weapon refines transferrable? I thought they could only be used with the original unit? Does that mean I wasted a gordin brave bow because I didn't upgrade it first (if you can)
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Dec 13, 2017 14:08
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The Biggest Jerk posted:So are weapon refines transferrable? I thought they could only be used with the original unit? Does that mean I wasted a gordin brave bow because I didn't upgrade it first (if you can) Minor evolved weapons can be transferred, like Guard bow or slaying weapons if upgraded from assassin or killer Refined weapons can only be merged into same units. Divine evolved weapons can't be transferred but I think they can be merged just fine.
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Dec 13, 2017 14:25
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The Biggest Jerk posted:So are weapon refines transferrable? I thought they could only be used with the original unit? Does that mean I wasted a gordin brave bow because I didn't upgrade it first (if you can) Brave Bows aren't refinable.
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Dec 13, 2017 14:44
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What's the difference between 4 and 5 star? Just a few points and access to 5 star skills? Cause I don't have a 5 star dancer and I'm sitting on a 4 star Olivia.
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Dec 13, 2017 14:58
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BrightWing posted:What's the difference between 4 and 5 star? Just a few points and access to 5 star skills? Cause I don't have a 5 star dancer and I'm sitting on a 4 star Olivia. Yeah it's just the skills and around 2 points in every stat. Dancers are definitely units that work fine at lower rarities since they are rarely fighting.
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Dec 13, 2017 15:01
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rannum posted:Minor evolved weapons can be transferred, like Guard bow or slaying weapons if upgraded from assassin or killer I'm not sure I understand, what do you mean by minor evolved weapons? Is that how people are getting lightning breath++ onto Ninian (which btw what's her preferred IV?)
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Dec 13, 2017 15:02
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The Biggest Jerk posted:I'm not sure I understand, what do you mean by minor evolved weapons? Is that how people are getting lightning breath++ onto Ninian (which btw what's her preferred IV?) Things like the killer weapons can be evolved into slayer weapons. I should have said something like non divine. Since the end result is a normal weapon, you can transfer it to other units. Lightning breath++ is a refinement of lb+. So if you want it on Ninian you need to give her lb+ to her then refine it.
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Dec 13, 2017 15:13
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Dragon meta is making arena tough this week for me. Nino can't handle either Tiki and has some trouble with Fae (assuming all +10, steady breath, etc.). I might have to invest in a dedicated anti-dragon unit instead of having Xander around. Should I just grab Lucina or something?
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Dec 13, 2017 15:25
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Masked marth does fine as well, just don't let her take any magic hits before engaging the dragons. Also watch out for nowi.
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KoldPT posted:Dragon meta is making arena tough this week for me. Nino can't handle either Tiki and has some trouble with Fae (assuming all +10, steady breath, etc.). I might have to invest in a dedicated anti-dragon unit instead of having Xander around. Why are you trying to kill red dragons with Nino in the first place? Where is your blue unit?
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Dec 13, 2017 15:28
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The Biggest Jerk posted:I'm not sure I understand, what do you mean by minor evolved weapons? Is that how people are getting lightning breath++ onto Ninian (which btw what's her preferred IV?) As a rule of thumb, if it costs 20 Refining Stones to upgrade, then the resulting weapon can be inherited by a different unit. If it costs 50 Stones, then it can only be merged into another hero. As for Ninian, IVs don't matter that much since she shouldn't really be in combat in the first place. I think +SPD would be ideal? Mine is +DEF with Triangle Advantage and she can duel Black Knights like a champ.
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Dec 13, 2017 15:31
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I think this is the first time in a while there hasn't been a VG or TT or anything going on once I finish my Arena Duels for the day
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Dec 13, 2017 15:37
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My face when I realise that my flier team technically needs 3 Speed Seals.
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loquacius posted:I think this is the first time in a while there hasn't been a VG or TT or anything going on once I finish my Arena Duels for the day old chain challenges I mean, unless you've finished almost all of those that you actually want to finish, in which case yeah
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loquacius posted:I think this is the first time in a while there hasn't been a VG or TT or anything going on once I finish my Arena Duels for the day This dead time is only increasing my indecisiveness.
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Dec 13, 2017 16:47
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Natural 20 posted:My face when I realise that my flier team technically needs 3 Speed Seals. This is why hone fliers is really important and I'm glad we just had a straight up 30+ day long period where you could try to whale for it.
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Dec 13, 2017 17:02
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Emalde posted:This is why hone fliers is really important and I'm glad we just had a straight up 30+ day long period where you could try to whale for it. No, even with that my team still needs 3 Speed Seals. Firesweep Cordelia needs it otherwise there are Ayra and Mia variants that can avoid a double. Whale Camilla needs it, otherwise she loses doubles on +Spd mages. HNowi needs it because of faster armour characters.
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Dec 13, 2017 17:44
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Honestly I feel like Cordelia is perfectly fine with a brave Lance DB3 or TA3 build so I don't know why you'd work so hard for a sidegrade
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Dec 13, 2017 17:46
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Centzon Totochtin posted:Honestly I feel like Cordelia is perfectly fine with a brave Lance DB3 or TA3 build so I don't know why you'd work so hard for a sidegrade I have a +SPD Cordelia who I had on Firesweep for a while but ended up switching back to BL+ and I think I like it better
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Dec 13, 2017 17:53
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Centzon Totochtin posted:Honestly I feel like Cordelia is perfectly fine with a brave Lance DB3 or TA3 build so I don't know why you'd work so hard for a sidegrade If you take the Brave DB3 build vs. Firesweep: Assumptions: Cordy gets two hits on a Brave and Doubles with the correct Firesweep build. Firesweep has 7 MT on a Brave lance. Firesweep Cordy runs +Spd, Brave runs +Str so brave Cordy gains 3 STR. Brave Cordy gets DB3 instead of L&D3, so gets another 1 STR. Finally Brave Cordy gets a +3 Str Seal against firesweep Cordy's +3 Spd seal. So Firesweep will hit for 1 MT more, but also does stuff like grant your team immunity to vantage and lets her hit for chip damage on stuff like armoured greens. (Incidentally she's also 11 Spd faster which means she actually survives a lot more matches due to avoiding doubles)
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Andrast posted:Why are you trying to kill red dragons with Nino in the first place? Where is your blue unit? I'm not running one  2 reds / 1 green / 1 colorless I suppose I could swap reinhardt in, he's only +1 so that's probably nerfing my score.
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Dec 13, 2017 18:10
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your reds and/or colorlesses should be able to handle tiki, then
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Natural 20 posted:If you take the Brave DB3 build vs. Firesweep: Assuming that firesweep doubles is a pretty big assumption in a meta where units like Ayra and Nino are common and probably have more merges than your units since you are probably not a whale. Andrast fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Dec 13, 2017 |
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I don't think Cordelia has the kind of defensive stats where you'd risk her taking a hit in any situation anyway (22 def, 25 res, one is probably going to be your bane)and I don't know why you're hitting green armors with a blue unit but you do you I don't run flier emblem as my main team but for quests and arena assault, I one-shot stuff then reposition or draw back to safety so that's where I'm coming from
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Dec 13, 2017 18:15
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Just use Goad Fliers, fliers can easily position themselves to take advantage of Goad thanks to them ignoring terrains.
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Andrast posted:Assuming that firesweep doubles is a pretty big assumption in a meta where units like Ayra and Nino are common and probably have more merges than your units since you are probably not a whale. The Ayras I've seen overwhelmingly use swift sparrow over L&D and Mias overwhelmingly favour flashing blade. Additionally, I've seen a Speed seal all of once since most run Phantom Speed instead. With that being as it is a +0 Firesweep Cordelia will double them at +10 using flier buffs. (also normal buffs /w Summoner Support) With normal buffs Cordy will double a +5. Given that I think it's a reasonable enough assumption to make. Centzon Totochtin posted:I don't think Cordelia has the kind of defensive stats where you'd risk her taking a hit in any situation anyway (22 def, 25 res, one is probably going to be your bane)and I don't know why you're hitting green armors with a blue unit but you do you A unit needs upwards of 62 attack to kill Firesweep Cordelia, nothing in the game is doubling her without lancebreaker. It basically means she can eat a hit from a blue or red and live to tell the tale. That's fairly useful as a tool for baiting units into place and if you gently caress up your positioning.
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Update on my +atk Lucius: he's so good.  Once he has the correct damage sponge in front of him, he obliterated every difficulty level of the new maps. Even ryo's awful one. I can't wait to +3 him once I have the feathers for it.
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I mean, if you're comparing your fully buffed units to enemy units that are apparently not running buffs, ploys, brave weapons, or dancers of course you're going to have favorable match ups But if it works for you, it works for you  Also peep this Lucius, dude above me
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You don't really need to calculate buffs on enemy melee infantry units like Ayra and Mia, their threat range is very small and you have a lot of time to break their formation and prevent their buffs
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after much consideration/time spent being bored whilst pooing, i have decided that fury is probably the ideal a slot skill for lyn because it maximizes her mixed bulk, which is actually quite decent, and gives her enough speed to consistently not get doubled, plus the 6dmg tick almost guarantees she drops into the own zone after tanking a single hit. my ideal lyn looks like: +atk/-hp brash katti flex moonbow fury 3 wrath 3 flex atk +3 will i ever pulling the mythical +atk lyn? No
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AverySpecialfriend posted:after much consideration/time spent being bored whilst pooing, i have decided that fury is probably the ideal a slot skill for lyn because it maximizes her mixed bulk, which is actually quite decent, and gives her enough speed to consistently not get doubled, plus the 6dmg tick almost guarantees she drops into the own zone after tanking a single hit. my ideal lyn looks like: I just got a +health/-res Lyn so this build looks pretty good (just gotta wait until I get enough dew)
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Dec 13, 2017 20:17
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pretty much any non -atk lyn is usable since with brash katti she basically only uses spd as a defensive stat. i use fury/swift sparrow/l&d interchangeably depending on my mood but the problem with swift sparrow is it leaves u open to eating doubles vs l&d leaves u open to getting one shot. but they're all good as long as u have wrath which is 100% mandatory for a tricked out lyn build bc she lacks the dmg for orkos otherwise
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I'm surprised at how useful close-defense seal Fjorm has been. I had to stick with most of her default kit for the SP scoring boost, since I don't have a spare Aether/Galeforce lying around, but close-defense seal Fjorm with a fortify defense buff can survive QP-Moonbow Neph. Of course, she doesn't counter-kill Neph, leaving you open to WoM, but Fjorm's mixed defenses synergize well with the bond skills. If they release Atk/Res bond on a not-seasonal unit, I could see the bond skills become meta.
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Double Post, ignore it.
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My Fjorm has mostly been a reposition bot in the arena but she did pretty well in my AA run too
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